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Barne's did not mentioned a single name but names where Jesus stand alone.
[And given him a name which is above every name] No other name can be compared with his. It stands alone. He only is Redeemer, Saviour. He only is Christ, the Anointed of God; see the notes at Heb 1:4. He only is the Son of God. His rank, his titles, his dignity, are above all others; see this illustrated in the notes at Eph 1:20-21.
(from Barnes' Notes.)
Jesus can't be God and also his own Son. Barnes finds himself contradictory in this. Jesus is definitely the Son of God, not God, and his name is higher than anyone on Earth. Everyone will show him the highest respect and honor, with the one exception, of course, being the Father that GAVE Jesus that name and position. The Father is the most high and has always been and always will be. (Psalm 83:18, KJV) Jesus comes in second. He is fine with that. (John 14:24; John 14:28; I Corinthians 11:3; Revelation 3:12)
You will notice in Philippians 2:9,10 that everything associated with Jesus is
to the glory of God the Father.
Even the Jewish NT Commentary believe that Jesus the Messiah is YHWH. Meaning God.
Philippians 2:9-11
God has given him the name, that is, the character and authority, above every name (v. 9). In vv. 10-11 Sha’ul reveals the extraordinary fact that this name above every name is
Adonai! He states, moreover, that the day is coming when every tongue will acknowledge it—angelic (in heaven), human (on earth) and demonic (under the earth).
Yeshua the Messiah is Adonai (Greek kurios). As explained at Mt 1:20 N, the Greek word “kurios” can mean anything from the tetragrammaton (YHVH, “Jehovah,” the personal name of God, rendered “Adonai” in the Jewish New Testament) to “Lord” (in the sense of God as universal ruler) to “lord” (in the human sense) to merely “sir” (a respectful form of address). Because Isaiah 45:23, which in its own context applies to YHVH, is quoted in v. 10 in reference to Yeshua, I believe this verse teaches that
Yeshua the Messiah is YHVH and not only “Lord” in a lesser sense.
(from Jewish New Testament Commentary)
They have inspired the wrath of God since Jesus was on the earth and had castigated them for their hypocrisy and cruel attitudes toward the common people. (Matthew chapter 23.) Jesus confronted them with strong words, showing them that they were liable for "Gehenna." Do you want to take their word for it that Jesus is YHWH?? They worshiped YHWH at one time but have fallen away from doing that, as you can see in numerous accounts in the Bible, right up to the killing of Jesus. They rejected Jesus as a blasphemer, so how could they say that he is YHWH? Look at the chapter 23 in Matthew. The Jewish leaders were not on the same page as Jesus. not at all.
There is no reference to Yeshua at Isaiah 45:23. It is only referring to YHWH. It would be shocking, for example, to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob to see the Jews inferring that Jesus is YHWH.
They are guilty of blasphemy, the very charge they brought against Jesus . The Jews missed the Messiah when he came. They did not accept him at all, so how can they incorporate him into their worship of God now? I would say that they don't worship Him now as they did not in days of old. Why are they mixing in Christian beliefs (that Jesus is the Messiah) with their own belief structure, when Yeshua has always been anathema to them? It's a political move.
Well you can ask Dr. Stern. ...
Is Stern posting in this forum?
I was posting his commentary in this forum, as you questioned him being Jewish posted commentaries about the NT.
How about
you giving
your thoughts on my post above?
I believe I posted a link to that commentary in one of my reply.
I also believe there are Jews who had an open mind to study the NT, I count him one.
You didn't say what YOU think about what I wrote about the Jews hating Jesus and Jesus castigating them for being hypocrites. So how could they possibly think that he is YHWH?
Yes that was before, but lately many Jews were converted to Christianity.
That may be the reason why Dr. Stern understand Jesus come in His Father's name. (YHWH)
https://www.bethashemyhwh.org/the-name.php
Christ boldly proclaims "I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive" (Yahn 5:43). Indeed Christ wraps Himself in the name of YHWH, and His very name, Yahoshua or Yahshua (the latter being the shortened version), testifies of YHWH's salvation (Matthew 1:21).
The 19th century saw at least 250,000 Jews convert to Christianity according to existing records of various societies.[2] Data from the Pew Research Center that as of 2013, about 1.6 million adult Americans of Jewish background identify themselves as Christians, most are Protestant.[3][4][5] According to same data most of the Americans of Jewish background who identify themselves as some sort of Christian (1.6 million) were raised as Jews or are Jews by ancestry.[