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Philippians 2:9 Therefore God has highly exalted him and bestowed on him the name that is above every name, 10 so that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, 11 and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father
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Capbook wrote: Fri May 24, 2024 3:01 am
Wootah wrote: Tue Sep 26, 2023 8:49 am
Philippians 2:9 Therefore God has highly exalted him and bestowed on him the name that is above every name, 10 so that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, 11 and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father
.

What is the name above all names?
Barne's did not mentioned a single name but names where Jesus stand alone.
[And given him a name which is above every name] No other name can be compared with his. It stands alone. He only is Redeemer, Saviour. He only is Christ, the Anointed of God; see the notes at Heb 1:4. He only is the Son of God. His rank, his titles, his dignity, are above all others; see this illustrated in the notes at Eph 1:20-21.
(from Barnes' Notes.)
Jesus can't be God and also his own Son. Barnes finds himself contradictory in this. Jesus is definitely the Son of God, not God, and his name is higher than anyone on Earth. Everyone will show him the highest respect and honor, with the one exception, of course, being the Father that GAVE Jesus that name and position. The Father is the most high and has always been and always will be. (Psalm 83:18, KJV) Jesus comes in second. He is fine with that. (John 14:24; John 14:28; I Corinthians 11:3; Revelation 3:12)

You will notice in Philippians 2:9,10 that everything associated with Jesus is to the glory of God the Father.

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onewithhim wrote: Tue May 28, 2024 9:08 am
Capbook wrote: Fri May 24, 2024 3:01 am
Wootah wrote: Tue Sep 26, 2023 8:49 am
Philippians 2:9 Therefore God has highly exalted him and bestowed on him the name that is above every name, 10 so that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, 11 and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father
.

What is the name above all names?
Barne's did not mentioned a single name but names where Jesus stand alone.
[And given him a name which is above every name] No other name can be compared with his. It stands alone. He only is Redeemer, Saviour. He only is Christ, the Anointed of God; see the notes at Heb 1:4. He only is the Son of God. His rank, his titles, his dignity, are above all others; see this illustrated in the notes at Eph 1:20-21.
(from Barnes' Notes.)
Jesus can't be God and also his own Son. Barnes finds himself contradictory in this. Jesus is definitely the Son of God, not God, and his name is higher than anyone on Earth. Everyone will show him the highest respect and honor, with the one exception, of course, being the Father that GAVE Jesus that name and position. The Father is the most high and has always been and always will be. (Psalm 83:18, KJV) Jesus comes in second. He is fine with that. (John 14:24; John 14:28; I Corinthians 11:3; Revelation 3:12)

You will notice in Philippians 2:9,10 that everything associated with Jesus is to the glory of God the Father.
Outside of Jesus can you do anything to the glory of God the Father? If you are humble and say no then how is it possible that only through Jesus can we bring glory to God the Father?

How can a not God thing bring glory to God the Father?

To make it plain only God can glorify himself and so if Jesus is glorifying God then Jesus must be God.

This seems like a great proof that Jesus is God so I created a new thread: viewtopic.php?f=38&t=41676
Proverbs 18:17 The one who states his case first seems right, until the other comes and examines him.

Member Notes: viewtopic.php?t=33826

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onewithhim wrote: Tue May 28, 2024 9:08 am
Capbook wrote: Fri May 24, 2024 3:01 am
Wootah wrote: Tue Sep 26, 2023 8:49 am
Philippians 2:9 Therefore God has highly exalted him and bestowed on him the name that is above every name, 10 so that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, 11 and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father
.

What is the name above all names?
Barne's did not mentioned a single name but names where Jesus stand alone.
[And given him a name which is above every name] No other name can be compared with his. It stands alone. He only is Redeemer, Saviour. He only is Christ, the Anointed of God; see the notes at Heb 1:4. He only is the Son of God. His rank, his titles, his dignity, are above all others; see this illustrated in the notes at Eph 1:20-21.
(from Barnes' Notes.)
Jesus can't be God and also his own Son. Barnes finds himself contradictory in this. Jesus is definitely the Son of God, not God, and his name is higher than anyone on Earth. Everyone will show him the highest respect and honor, with the one exception, of course, being the Father that GAVE Jesus that name and position. The Father is the most high and has always been and always will be. (Psalm 83:18, KJV) Jesus comes in second. He is fine with that. (John 14:24; John 14:28; I Corinthians 11:3; Revelation 3:12)

You will notice in Philippians 2:9,10 that everything associated with Jesus is to the glory of God the Father.
Even the Jewish NT Commentary believe that Jesus the Messiah is YHWH. Meaning God.

Philippians 2:9-11
God has given him the name, that is, the character and authority, above every name (v. 9). In vv. 10-11 Sha’ul reveals the extraordinary fact that this name above every name is Adonai! He states, moreover, that the day is coming when every tongue will acknowledge it—angelic (in heaven), human (on earth) and demonic (under the earth).
Yeshua the Messiah is Adonai (Greek kurios). As explained at Mt 1:20 N, the Greek word “kurios” can mean anything from the tetragrammaton (YHVH, “Jehovah,” the personal name of God, rendered “Adonai” in the Jewish New Testament) to “Lord” (in the sense of God as universal ruler) to “lord” (in the human sense) to merely “sir” (a respectful form of address). Because Isaiah 45:23, which in its own context applies to YHVH, is quoted in v. 10 in reference to Yeshua, I believe this verse teaches that Yeshua the Messiah is YHVH and not only “Lord” in a lesser sense.
(from Jewish New Testament Commentary)

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Wootah wrote: Tue May 28, 2024 9:20 pm
onewithhim wrote: Tue May 28, 2024 9:08 am
Capbook wrote: Fri May 24, 2024 3:01 am
Wootah wrote: Tue Sep 26, 2023 8:49 am
Philippians 2:9 Therefore God has highly exalted him and bestowed on him the name that is above every name, 10 so that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, 11 and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father
.

What is the name above all names?
Barne's did not mentioned a single name but names where Jesus stand alone.
[And given him a name which is above every name] No other name can be compared with his. It stands alone. He only is Redeemer, Saviour. He only is Christ, the Anointed of God; see the notes at Heb 1:4. He only is the Son of God. His rank, his titles, his dignity, are above all others; see this illustrated in the notes at Eph 1:20-21.
(from Barnes' Notes.)
Jesus can't be God and also his own Son. Barnes finds himself contradictory in this. Jesus is definitely the Son of God, not God, and his name is higher than anyone on Earth. Everyone will show him the highest respect and honor, with the one exception, of course, being the Father that GAVE Jesus that name and position. The Father is the most high and has always been and always will be. (Psalm 83:18, KJV) Jesus comes in second. He is fine with that. (John 14:24; John 14:28; I Corinthians 11:3; Revelation 3:12)

You will notice in Philippians 2:9,10 that everything associated with Jesus is to the glory of God the Father.
Outside of Jesus can you do anything to the glory of God the Father? If you are humble and say no then how is it possible that only through Jesus can we bring glory to God the Father?

How can a not God thing bring glory to God the Father?

To make it plain only God can glorify himself and so if Jesus is glorifying God then Jesus must be God.

This seems like a great proof that Jesus is God so I created a new thread: viewtopic.php?f=38&t=41676
Anyone can bring glory to the Father if they are following His instructions on living their lives. The Scriptures say that Jesus brought glory to the Father, so are you questioning the Scriptures? God takes pleasure in seeing His friends glorifying Him with good conduct and prayerful attitudes. We don't have to be God to glorify Him.

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Capbook wrote: Wed May 29, 2024 3:02 am
onewithhim wrote: Tue May 28, 2024 9:08 am
Capbook wrote: Fri May 24, 2024 3:01 am
Wootah wrote: Tue Sep 26, 2023 8:49 am
Philippians 2:9 Therefore God has highly exalted him and bestowed on him the name that is above every name, 10 so that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, 11 and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father
.

What is the name above all names?
Barne's did not mentioned a single name but names where Jesus stand alone.
[And given him a name which is above every name] No other name can be compared with his. It stands alone. He only is Redeemer, Saviour. He only is Christ, the Anointed of God; see the notes at Heb 1:4. He only is the Son of God. His rank, his titles, his dignity, are above all others; see this illustrated in the notes at Eph 1:20-21.
(from Barnes' Notes.)
Jesus can't be God and also his own Son. Barnes finds himself contradictory in this. Jesus is definitely the Son of God, not God, and his name is higher than anyone on Earth. Everyone will show him the highest respect and honor, with the one exception, of course, being the Father that GAVE Jesus that name and position. The Father is the most high and has always been and always will be. (Psalm 83:18, KJV) Jesus comes in second. He is fine with that. (John 14:24; John 14:28; I Corinthians 11:3; Revelation 3:12)

You will notice in Philippians 2:9,10 that everything associated with Jesus is to the glory of God the Father.
Even the Jewish NT Commentary believe that Jesus the Messiah is YHWH. Meaning God.

Philippians 2:9-11
God has given him the name, that is, the character and authority, above every name (v. 9). In vv. 10-11 Sha’ul reveals the extraordinary fact that this name above every name is Adonai! He states, moreover, that the day is coming when every tongue will acknowledge it—angelic (in heaven), human (on earth) and demonic (under the earth).
Yeshua the Messiah is Adonai (Greek kurios). As explained at Mt 1:20 N, the Greek word “kurios” can mean anything from the tetragrammaton (YHVH, “Jehovah,” the personal name of God, rendered “Adonai” in the Jewish New Testament) to “Lord” (in the sense of God as universal ruler) to “lord” (in the human sense) to merely “sir” (a respectful form of address). Because Isaiah 45:23, which in its own context applies to YHVH, is quoted in v. 10 in reference to Yeshua, I believe this verse teaches that Yeshua the Messiah is YHVH and not only “Lord” in a lesser sense.
(from Jewish New Testament Commentary)
They have inspired the wrath of God since Jesus was on the earth and had castigated them for their hypocrisy and cruel attitudes toward the common people. (Matthew chapter 23.) Jesus confronted them with strong words, showing them that they were liable for "Gehenna." Do you want to take their word for it that Jesus is YHWH?? They worshiped YHWH at one time but have fallen away from doing that, as you can see in numerous accounts in the Bible, right up to the killing of Jesus. They rejected Jesus as a blasphemer, so how could they say that he is YHWH? Look at the chapter 23 in Matthew. The Jewish leaders were not on the same page as Jesus. not at all.

There is no reference to Yeshua at Isaiah 45:23. It is only referring to YHWH. It would be shocking, for example, to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob to see the Jews inferring that Jesus is YHWH. They are guilty of blasphemy, the very charge they brought against Jesus . The Jews missed the Messiah when he came. They did not accept him at all, so how can they incorporate him into their worship of God now? I would say that they don't worship Him now as they did not in days of old. Why are they mixing in Christian beliefs (that Jesus is the Messiah) with their own belief structure, when Yeshua has always been anathema to them? It's a political move.

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onewithhim wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2024 3:50 pm
Capbook wrote: Wed May 29, 2024 3:02 am
onewithhim wrote: Tue May 28, 2024 9:08 am
Capbook wrote: Fri May 24, 2024 3:01 am
Wootah wrote: Tue Sep 26, 2023 8:49 am
Philippians 2:9 Therefore God has highly exalted him and bestowed on him the name that is above every name, 10 so that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, 11 and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father
.

What is the name above all names?
Barne's did not mentioned a single name but names where Jesus stand alone.
[And given him a name which is above every name] No other name can be compared with his. It stands alone. He only is Redeemer, Saviour. He only is Christ, the Anointed of God; see the notes at Heb 1:4. He only is the Son of God. His rank, his titles, his dignity, are above all others; see this illustrated in the notes at Eph 1:20-21.
(from Barnes' Notes.)
Jesus can't be God and also his own Son. Barnes finds himself contradictory in this. Jesus is definitely the Son of God, not God, and his name is higher than anyone on Earth. Everyone will show him the highest respect and honor, with the one exception, of course, being the Father that GAVE Jesus that name and position. The Father is the most high and has always been and always will be. (Psalm 83:18, KJV) Jesus comes in second. He is fine with that. (John 14:24; John 14:28; I Corinthians 11:3; Revelation 3:12)

You will notice in Philippians 2:9,10 that everything associated with Jesus is to the glory of God the Father.
Even the Jewish NT Commentary believe that Jesus the Messiah is YHWH. Meaning God.

Philippians 2:9-11
God has given him the name, that is, the character and authority, above every name (v. 9). In vv. 10-11 Sha’ul reveals the extraordinary fact that this name above every name is Adonai! He states, moreover, that the day is coming when every tongue will acknowledge it—angelic (in heaven), human (on earth) and demonic (under the earth).
Yeshua the Messiah is Adonai (Greek kurios). As explained at Mt 1:20 N, the Greek word “kurios” can mean anything from the tetragrammaton (YHVH, “Jehovah,” the personal name of God, rendered “Adonai” in the Jewish New Testament) to “Lord” (in the sense of God as universal ruler) to “lord” (in the human sense) to merely “sir” (a respectful form of address). Because Isaiah 45:23, which in its own context applies to YHVH, is quoted in v. 10 in reference to Yeshua, I believe this verse teaches that Yeshua the Messiah is YHVH and not only “Lord” in a lesser sense.
(from Jewish New Testament Commentary)
They have inspired the wrath of God since Jesus was on the earth and had castigated them for their hypocrisy and cruel attitudes toward the common people. (Matthew chapter 23.) Jesus confronted them with strong words, showing them that they were liable for "Gehenna." Do you want to take their word for it that Jesus is YHWH?? They worshiped YHWH at one time but have fallen away from doing that, as you can see in numerous accounts in the Bible, right up to the killing of Jesus. They rejected Jesus as a blasphemer, so how could they say that he is YHWH? Look at the chapter 23 in Matthew. The Jewish leaders were not on the same page as Jesus. not at all.

There is no reference to Yeshua at Isaiah 45:23. It is only referring to YHWH. It would be shocking, for example, to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob to see the Jews inferring that Jesus is YHWH. They are guilty of blasphemy, the very charge they brought against Jesus . The Jews missed the Messiah when he came. They did not accept him at all, so how can they incorporate him into their worship of God now? I would say that they don't worship Him now as they did not in days of old. Why are they mixing in Christian beliefs (that Jesus is the Messiah) with their own belief structure, when Yeshua has always been anathema to them? It's a political move.
Well you can ask Dr. Stern. https://estudysource.com/product/C0017/ ... or-e-sword
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Capbook wrote: Mon Jun 03, 2024 2:59 am
onewithhim wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2024 3:50 pm
Capbook wrote: Wed May 29, 2024 3:02 am
onewithhim wrote: Tue May 28, 2024 9:08 am
Capbook wrote: Fri May 24, 2024 3:01 am
Wootah wrote: Tue Sep 26, 2023 8:49 am
Philippians 2:9 Therefore God has highly exalted him and bestowed on him the name that is above every name, 10 so that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, 11 and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father
.

What is the name above all names?
Barne's did not mentioned a single name but names where Jesus stand alone.
[And given him a name which is above every name] No other name can be compared with his. It stands alone. He only is Redeemer, Saviour. He only is Christ, the Anointed of God; see the notes at Heb 1:4. He only is the Son of God. His rank, his titles, his dignity, are above all others; see this illustrated in the notes at Eph 1:20-21.
(from Barnes' Notes.)
Jesus can't be God and also his own Son. Barnes finds himself contradictory in this. Jesus is definitely the Son of God, not God, and his name is higher than anyone on Earth. Everyone will show him the highest respect and honor, with the one exception, of course, being the Father that GAVE Jesus that name and position. The Father is the most high and has always been and always will be. (Psalm 83:18, KJV) Jesus comes in second. He is fine with that. (John 14:24; John 14:28; I Corinthians 11:3; Revelation 3:12)

You will notice in Philippians 2:9,10 that everything associated with Jesus is to the glory of God the Father.
Even the Jewish NT Commentary believe that Jesus the Messiah is YHWH. Meaning God.

Philippians 2:9-11
God has given him the name, that is, the character and authority, above every name (v. 9). In vv. 10-11 Sha’ul reveals the extraordinary fact that this name above every name is Adonai! He states, moreover, that the day is coming when every tongue will acknowledge it—angelic (in heaven), human (on earth) and demonic (under the earth).
Yeshua the Messiah is Adonai (Greek kurios). As explained at Mt 1:20 N, the Greek word “kurios” can mean anything from the tetragrammaton (YHVH, “Jehovah,” the personal name of God, rendered “Adonai” in the Jewish New Testament) to “Lord” (in the sense of God as universal ruler) to “lord” (in the human sense) to merely “sir” (a respectful form of address). Because Isaiah 45:23, which in its own context applies to YHVH, is quoted in v. 10 in reference to Yeshua, I believe this verse teaches that Yeshua the Messiah is YHVH and not only “Lord” in a lesser sense.
(from Jewish New Testament Commentary)
They have inspired the wrath of God since Jesus was on the earth and had castigated them for their hypocrisy and cruel attitudes toward the common people. (Matthew chapter 23.) Jesus confronted them with strong words, showing them that they were liable for "Gehenna." Do you want to take their word for it that Jesus is YHWH?? They worshiped YHWH at one time but have fallen away from doing that, as you can see in numerous accounts in the Bible, right up to the killing of Jesus. They rejected Jesus as a blasphemer, so how could they say that he is YHWH? Look at the chapter 23 in Matthew. The Jewish leaders were not on the same page as Jesus. not at all.

There is no reference to Yeshua at Isaiah 45:23. It is only referring to YHWH. It would be shocking, for example, to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob to see the Jews inferring that Jesus is YHWH. They are guilty of blasphemy, the very charge they brought against Jesus . The Jews missed the Messiah when he came. They did not accept him at all, so how can they incorporate him into their worship of God now? I would say that they don't worship Him now as they did not in days of old. Why are they mixing in Christian beliefs (that Jesus is the Messiah) with their own belief structure, when Yeshua has always been anathema to them? It's a political move.
Well you can ask Dr. Stern. ...
Is Stern posting in this forum?
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JehovahsWitness wrote: Mon Jun 03, 2024 4:15 am
Capbook wrote: Mon Jun 03, 2024 2:59 am
onewithhim wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2024 3:50 pm
Capbook wrote: Wed May 29, 2024 3:02 am
onewithhim wrote: Tue May 28, 2024 9:08 am
Capbook wrote: Fri May 24, 2024 3:01 am
Wootah wrote: Tue Sep 26, 2023 8:49 am
Philippians 2:9 Therefore God has highly exalted him and bestowed on him the name that is above every name, 10 so that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, 11 and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father
.

What is the name above all names?
Barne's did not mentioned a single name but names where Jesus stand alone.
[And given him a name which is above every name] No other name can be compared with his. It stands alone. He only is Redeemer, Saviour. He only is Christ, the Anointed of God; see the notes at Heb 1:4. He only is the Son of God. His rank, his titles, his dignity, are above all others; see this illustrated in the notes at Eph 1:20-21.
(from Barnes' Notes.)
Jesus can't be God and also his own Son. Barnes finds himself contradictory in this. Jesus is definitely the Son of God, not God, and his name is higher than anyone on Earth. Everyone will show him the highest respect and honor, with the one exception, of course, being the Father that GAVE Jesus that name and position. The Father is the most high and has always been and always will be. (Psalm 83:18, KJV) Jesus comes in second. He is fine with that. (John 14:24; John 14:28; I Corinthians 11:3; Revelation 3:12)

You will notice in Philippians 2:9,10 that everything associated with Jesus is to the glory of God the Father.
Even the Jewish NT Commentary believe that Jesus the Messiah is YHWH. Meaning God.

Philippians 2:9-11
God has given him the name, that is, the character and authority, above every name (v. 9). In vv. 10-11 Sha’ul reveals the extraordinary fact that this name above every name is Adonai! He states, moreover, that the day is coming when every tongue will acknowledge it—angelic (in heaven), human (on earth) and demonic (under the earth).
Yeshua the Messiah is Adonai (Greek kurios). As explained at Mt 1:20 N, the Greek word “kurios” can mean anything from the tetragrammaton (YHVH, “Jehovah,” the personal name of God, rendered “Adonai” in the Jewish New Testament) to “Lord” (in the sense of God as universal ruler) to “lord” (in the human sense) to merely “sir” (a respectful form of address). Because Isaiah 45:23, which in its own context applies to YHVH, is quoted in v. 10 in reference to Yeshua, I believe this verse teaches that Yeshua the Messiah is YHVH and not only “Lord” in a lesser sense.
(from Jewish New Testament Commentary)
They have inspired the wrath of God since Jesus was on the earth and had castigated them for their hypocrisy and cruel attitudes toward the common people. (Matthew chapter 23.) Jesus confronted them with strong words, showing them that they were liable for "Gehenna." Do you want to take their word for it that Jesus is YHWH?? They worshiped YHWH at one time but have fallen away from doing that, as you can see in numerous accounts in the Bible, right up to the killing of Jesus. They rejected Jesus as a blasphemer, so how could they say that he is YHWH? Look at the chapter 23 in Matthew. The Jewish leaders were not on the same page as Jesus. not at all.

There is no reference to Yeshua at Isaiah 45:23. It is only referring to YHWH. It would be shocking, for example, to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob to see the Jews inferring that Jesus is YHWH. They are guilty of blasphemy, the very charge they brought against Jesus . The Jews missed the Messiah when he came. They did not accept him at all, so how can they incorporate him into their worship of God now? I would say that they don't worship Him now as they did not in days of old. Why are they mixing in Christian beliefs (that Jesus is the Messiah) with their own belief structure, when Yeshua has always been anathema to them? It's a political move.
Well you can ask Dr. Stern. ...
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Capbook wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2024 2:51 am
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Philippians 2:9 Therefore God has highly exalted him and bestowed on him the name that is above every name, 10 so that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, 11 and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father
.

What is the name above all names?
Barne's did not mentioned a single name but names where Jesus stand alone.
[And given him a name which is above every name] No other name can be compared with his. It stands alone. He only is Redeemer, Saviour. He only is Christ, the Anointed of God; see the notes at Heb 1:4. He only is the Son of God. His rank, his titles, his dignity, are above all others; see this illustrated in the notes at Eph 1:20-21.
(from Barnes' Notes.)
Jesus can't be God and also his own Son. Barnes finds himself contradictory in this. Jesus is definitely the Son of God, not God, and his name is higher than anyone on Earth. Everyone will show him the highest respect and honor, with the one exception, of course, being the Father that GAVE Jesus that name and position. The Father is the most high and has always been and always will be. (Psalm 83:18, KJV) Jesus comes in second. He is fine with that. (John 14:24; John 14:28; I Corinthians 11:3; Revelation 3:12)

You will notice in Philippians 2:9,10 that everything associated with Jesus is to the glory of God the Father.
Even the Jewish NT Commentary believe that Jesus the Messiah is YHWH. Meaning God.

Philippians 2:9-11
God has given him the name, that is, the character and authority, above every name (v. 9). In vv. 10-11 Sha’ul reveals the extraordinary fact that this name above every name is Adonai! He states, moreover, that the day is coming when every tongue will acknowledge it—angelic (in heaven), human (on earth) and demonic (under the earth).
Yeshua the Messiah is Adonai (Greek kurios). As explained at Mt 1:20 N, the Greek word “kurios” can mean anything from the tetragrammaton (YHVH, “Jehovah,” the personal name of God, rendered “Adonai” in the Jewish New Testament) to “Lord” (in the sense of God as universal ruler) to “lord” (in the human sense) to merely “sir” (a respectful form of address). Because Isaiah 45:23, which in its own context applies to YHVH, is quoted in v. 10 in reference to Yeshua, I believe this verse teaches that Yeshua the Messiah is YHVH and not only “Lord” in a lesser sense.
(from Jewish New Testament Commentary)
They have inspired the wrath of God since Jesus was on the earth and had castigated them for their hypocrisy and cruel attitudes toward the common people. (Matthew chapter 23.) Jesus confronted them with strong words, showing them that they were liable for "Gehenna." Do you want to take their word for it that Jesus is YHWH?? They worshiped YHWH at one time but have fallen away from doing that, as you can see in numerous accounts in the Bible, right up to the killing of Jesus. They rejected Jesus as a blasphemer, so how could they say that he is YHWH? Look at the chapter 23 in Matthew. The Jewish leaders were not on the same page as Jesus. not at all.

There is no reference to Yeshua at Isaiah 45:23. It is only referring to YHWH. It would be shocking, for example, to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob to see the Jews inferring that Jesus is YHWH. They are guilty of blasphemy, the very charge they brought against Jesus . The Jews missed the Messiah when he came. They did not accept him at all, so how can they incorporate him into their worship of God now? I would say that they don't worship Him now as they did not in days of old. Why are they mixing in Christian beliefs (that Jesus is the Messiah) with their own belief structure, when Yeshua has always been anathema to them? It's a political move.
Well you can ask Dr. Stern. ...
Is Stern posting in this forum?
I was posting his commentary in this forum, as you questioned him being Jewish posted commentaries about the NT.
How about you giving your thoughts on my post above?

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Re: What is the name above all names?

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Philippians 2:9 Therefore God has highly exalted him and bestowed on him the name that is above every name, 10 so that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, 11 and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father
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What is the name above all names?
Barne's did not mentioned a single name but names where Jesus stand alone.
[And given him a name which is above every name] No other name can be compared with his. It stands alone. He only is Redeemer, Saviour. He only is Christ, the Anointed of God; see the notes at Heb 1:4. He only is the Son of God. His rank, his titles, his dignity, are above all others; see this illustrated in the notes at Eph 1:20-21.
(from Barnes' Notes.)
Jesus can't be God and also his own Son. Barnes finds himself contradictory in this. Jesus is definitely the Son of God, not God, and his name is higher than anyone on Earth. Everyone will show him the highest respect and honor, with the one exception, of course, being the Father that GAVE Jesus that name and position. The Father is the most high and has always been and always will be. (Psalm 83:18, KJV) Jesus comes in second. He is fine with that. (John 14:24; John 14:28; I Corinthians 11:3; Revelation 3:12)

You will notice in Philippians 2:9,10 that everything associated with Jesus is to the glory of God the Father.
Even the Jewish NT Commentary believe that Jesus the Messiah is YHWH. Meaning God.

Philippians 2:9-11
God has given him the name, that is, the character and authority, above every name (v. 9). In vv. 10-11 Sha’ul reveals the extraordinary fact that this name above every name is Adonai! He states, moreover, that the day is coming when every tongue will acknowledge it—angelic (in heaven), human (on earth) and demonic (under the earth).
Yeshua the Messiah is Adonai (Greek kurios). As explained at Mt 1:20 N, the Greek word “kurios” can mean anything from the tetragrammaton (YHVH, “Jehovah,” the personal name of God, rendered “Adonai” in the Jewish New Testament) to “Lord” (in the sense of God as universal ruler) to “lord” (in the human sense) to merely “sir” (a respectful form of address). Because Isaiah 45:23, which in its own context applies to YHVH, is quoted in v. 10 in reference to Yeshua, I believe this verse teaches that Yeshua the Messiah is YHVH and not only “Lord” in a lesser sense.
(from Jewish New Testament Commentary)
They have inspired the wrath of God since Jesus was on the earth and had castigated them for their hypocrisy and cruel attitudes toward the common people. (Matthew chapter 23.) Jesus confronted them with strong words, showing them that they were liable for "Gehenna." Do you want to take their word for it that Jesus is YHWH?? They worshiped YHWH at one time but have fallen away from doing that, as you can see in numerous accounts in the Bible, right up to the killing of Jesus. They rejected Jesus as a blasphemer, so how could they say that he is YHWH? Look at the chapter 23 in Matthew. The Jewish leaders were not on the same page as Jesus. not at all.

There is no reference to Yeshua at Isaiah 45:23. It is only referring to YHWH. It would be shocking, for example, to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob to see the Jews inferring that Jesus is YHWH. They are guilty of blasphemy, the very charge they brought against Jesus . The Jews missed the Messiah when he came. They did not accept him at all, so how can they incorporate him into their worship of God now? I would say that they don't worship Him now as they did not in days of old. Why are they mixing in Christian beliefs (that Jesus is the Messiah) with their own belief structure, when Yeshua has always been anathema to them? It's a political move.
Well you can ask Dr. Stern. ...
Is Stern posting in this forum?
I was posting his commentary in this forum, as you questioned him being Jewish posted commentaries about the NT.
How about you giving your thoughts on my post above?
I believe I posted a link to that commentary in one of my reply.
I also believe there are Jews who had an open mind to study the NT, I count him one.

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