"Take my word for it, or his, or this book"

[Zzyzx]

Most of us probably know better than to believe everything said or written. If someone tells us they can fly by flapping their arms, our response is likely disbelief and a request that they ‘show me’. If they refuse to demonstrate or fail in flapping, we regard their claim as false. Agreed?

If a person claims to have come back to life after being dead for days none of us are likely to believe the claim unless it could be verified. Right?

If someone writes that fifty years ago a long-dead person came back to life and flew away into the sky, what would be your / our likely reaction? Would we be convinced if they say ‘many saw him’?

What would it take to convince us that the tale was true?

[OneJack]

What the Lord Jesus says is ALWAYS true (the statements are accurate and absolutely true when they come from the mouth of Jesus). Would you agree on that?

Have you heard that from the mouth of the Lord Jesus? Or you're just guessing, which is which?

Thus an accurate written record of what the Lord Jesus said is by definition a written record of what is TRUE. (Again I am not speaking about determining truth (assessing or establishing what is true or what is not true) I am talking about what is or is not a TRUE STATEMENT that reflects reality. By reading what the Lord Jesus said we are reading statements that are true.

Where have you read what Jesus said, and how sure are you that what you've read was what Jesus said? No doubt, truth resides only in Jesus, but your statement above does not reflect the truth about Jesus.

What Almighty God says is always true.[/color] When he Himself wrote His commands they were written statements that were absolutely true. God did not choose to write everything himself but he commanded Moses (and the Prophets) to write down what he wants people to know, so by definition what he directed (not just "permitted" or "allowed", after all God "permits" or "allows" all kinds of nonsense to be written about him...),no, I am talking about what God DIRECTED/INSTRUCTED / GUIDED and in some cases, DICTATED must by definition be true statements. Correct?

False! Have you seen the Almighty writing [His commands]? God is everything, isn't He? You seem to be guessing about Moses, whom the Lord Jesus told us He didn't command him [Moses] to write scriptures. You have no idea how the Almighty God, whose name is Jesus, sets trials before His disciples, friends, sons, families, and followers relative to the issue we discuss. 

[JehovahsWitness]

What Almighty God says is always true.

False!

So are you saying that what Almighty God says is NOT always TRUE?


RELATED POSTS


Is a paranormal encounter (audible voice from the spirit world) the ONLY way to hear from Jesus?
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 9#p1187319

[JehovahsWitness]

Literally: So when you say "head from God" you mean having a literal paranormal experience of hearing an audible voice from the spirit realm. Please confirm "yes" or "no". (if "no" can you please explain what you mean by "heard from God")

Moses {snip}

The above question is not about Moses, I am asking for clarification for what YOU mean when you say "you have heard nothing from God"... Do you mean "You have not heard a audible voice from the spirit world"? Do you mean "you have not seen God Almighty in the flesh and heard him speak ? What do you mean by your statement "you have heard nothing from God"?






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to CAPBOOK

... you’ve heard and learned nothing yet from the Lord Jesus ...

To JW

... you've heard nothing yet from the Lord Jesus, the Almighty God

TO RBD

...you've heard nothing yet from the Lord Jesus ...

to TAM

Have you heard this from the Almighty God?

to POI

... you've heard nothing yet from the Almighty God

The fact that you can't post anything that you heard from God proves you ain't heard anything from God, so far.

QUESTION When you say "heard from God" does that mean to have a paranormal experience hearing an audible voice from the spirit world?







JW


RELATED POSTS


Is a paranormal encounter (audible voice from the spirit world) the ONLY way to hear from Jesus?
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 9#p1187319

Does Onejack have his own "bible" (written verbatim quotations from Almighty God Himself) ?
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 6#p1188096

Do faithful eyewitness testimonies "die" with their writers?
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 3#p1187473

How to identify the work of "deceptive spirits"?
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 5#p1187545

[OneJack]

Literally: So when you say "head from God" you mean having a literal paranormal experience of hearing an audible voice from the spirit realm. Please confirm "yes" or "no". (if "no" can you please explain what you mean by "heard from God")

Moses {snip}

The above question is not about Moses, I am asking for clarification for what YOU mean when you say "you have heard nothing from God"... Do you mean "You have not heard a audible voice from the spirit world"? Do you mean "you have not seen God Almighty in the flesh and heard him speak ? What do you mean by your statement "you have heard nothing from God"?






=================================================
to CAPBOOK

... you’ve heard and learned nothing yet from the Lord Jesus ...

To JW

... you've heard nothing yet from the Lord Jesus, the Almighty God

TO RBD

...you've heard nothing yet from the Lord Jesus ...

to TAM

Have you heard this from the Almighty God?

to POI

... you've heard nothing yet from the Almighty God

The fact that you can't post anything that you heard from God proves you ain't heard anything from God, so far.

QUESTION When you say "heard from God" does that mean to have a paranormal experience hearing an audible voice from the spirit world?

God has various means of speaking to mankind, and you yourself can describe how He speaks to you if you are under His shepherding.

[JehovahsWitness]

God has various means of speaking to mankind ....

You’re always dividing and confining Jesus in the box ...

QUESTION 1 Is hearing an audible voice form a spirit or from Almighty God incarnate one way God speaks to mankind? Yes or No.

QUETION 2 What are the other "various means" you here refer to?

[OneJack]

God has various means of speaking to mankind ....

You’re always dividing and confining Jesus in the box ...

QUESTION 1 Is hearing an audible voice form a spirit or from Almighty God incarnate one way God speaks to mankind? Yes or No.

What exactly do you mean to say with the phrase, 'God incarnate?'

QUETION 2 What are the other "various means" you here refer to?

Writings in the air, and a cool voice from above.

[JehovahsWitness]

QUETION 2 What are the other "various means" you here refer to?

Writings in the air, and a cool voice from above.

QUESTION What do you mean by "writings in the air" ? More paranormal?

QUESTION By "a cool voice from above" do you mean a voice from the spirit realm?

QUESTION Is that all or is ther any other means by which God can communication with humans?






JW



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INCARNATE

. The Son of God was the man who was born of Mary, and who was the physical vessel of the Almighty God in His incarnation

Jesus used the mind of a fourteen-year-old boy in this regard, as He used a physical vessel in His incarnation. ...

[OneJack]

QUETION 2 What are the other "various means" you here refer to?

Writings in the air, and a cool voice from above.

QUESTION What do you mean by "writings in the air" ? More paranormal?

QUESTION By "a cool voice from above" do you mean a voice from the spirit realm?

QUESTION Is that all or is ther any other means by which God can communication with humans?






JW



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INCARNATE

. The Son of God was the man who was born of Mary, and who was the physical vessel of the Almighty God in His incarnation

Jesus used the mind of a fourteen-year-old boy in this regard, as He used a physical vessel in His incarnation. ...

Those are more than enough testimonies of Jesus to know that He continues to shepherd His sheep across all generations.

[JehovahsWitness]

QUETION 2 What are the other "various means" you here refer to?

Writings in the air, and a cool voice from above.

QUESTION What do you mean by "writings in the air" ? More paranormal?

QUESTION By "a cool voice from above" do you mean an audible voice from the spirit realm?

QUESTION Is that all or is there any other means by which God can communication with humans?






JW



============================================

INCARNATE

. The Son of God was the man who was born of Mary, and who was the physical vessel of the Almighty God in His incarnation

Jesus used the mind of a fourteen-year-old boy in this regard, as He used a physical vessel in His incarnation. ...

Those are more than enough testimonies of Jesus to know that He continues to shepherd His sheep across all generations.

I have to agree. Now I have a few questions

• QUESTION What do you mean by "writings in the air" ? More paranormal?

• QUESTION By "a cool voice from above" do you mean a voice from the spirit realm?

• QUESTION Is that all or is ther any other means by which God can communication with humans?

[OneJack]

QUETION 2 What are the other "various means" you here refer to?

Writings in the air, and a cool voice from above.

QUESTION What do you mean by "writings in the air" ? More paranormal?

QUESTION By "a cool voice from above" do you mean an audible voice from the spirit realm?

QUESTION Is that all or is there any other means by which God can communication with humans?






JW



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INCARNATE

. The Son of God was the man who was born of Mary, and who was the physical vessel of the Almighty God in His incarnation

Jesus used the mind of a fourteen-year-old boy in this regard, as He used a physical vessel in His incarnation. ...

Those are more than enough testimonies of Jesus to know that He continues to shepherd His sheep across all generations.

I have to agree. Now I have a few questions

• QUESTION What do you mean by "writings in the air" ? More paranormal?

• QUESTION By "a cool voice from above" do you mean a voice from the spirit realm?

• QUESTION Is that all or is ther any other means by which God can communication with humans?

Take them literally; they’re not metaphors.