The Shortest Way To The Truth
There are two important things about knowing God and the way to the salvation of our souls that we have to consider to keep ourselves away from deceptions, to wit:
1. Neither the bible nor John, Luke, Matthew, Paul, and the rest of the apostles is God.
2. Jesus is Immanuel, who is always beside us all the time. He is in a 24/7 watch mode for us who will come to Him and call on Him for the salvation of our souls.
Why do we have to be so obsessed with biblical accounts that we treat them as if they were the only source of truth about God and the salvation of our souls when Jesus is with us always, though we do not see Him yet? He can surely bring us to the truth if we come to Him and call on Him in the right way. Jesus, real and forever living God, is the only way to the truth about God and our salvation.
The Shortest Way To The Truth
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Post #131Jesus used the mind of a fourteen-year-old boy in this regard, as He used a physical vessel in His incarnation. Jesus is not yet visible to all, and no one has yet seen Him.Jehovah’sWitnesses wrote:Please clarify ...
Was the "Jesus Christ" that shepherded you for 14 years" visible to you during those 14 years or was he INVISIBLE to you during those 14 years?
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Post #1321. Which verses are those?
2. Did he provide with an exhaustive list? If not why not?
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Post #133A SPIRIT USES A CHILD'S MIND
Was he "mind controlled" by a force that caused him to speak words that were not his own? (please answer "yes" or "no")Did the child hear voices? (please answer "yes" or "no")
If yes, does that not mean he was in communication with a spirit?
If no, how was the information conveyed from the unseen individual "Jesus" that was using his mind to you and your family ?
If yes does that not mean he was being controlled by a spirit?
If no , in what sense was the spirit using the child's mind
Or are you saying that Almighty God, left his abode in heaven to physically appear on earth in the form of a young child?
Incarnation in the classic sense usually refers to a spirit transforming himself (or being transformed) into a physical entity (different from "possession" * which is a spirit controling the body (and mind) of a physical entity.
Can you explain what "His incarnation" means in your theology? How would it differ from "possession"?
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Post #134Do that mean then that those no. 1 and 2 I've stated were not mine belief but yours OneJack?OneJack wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2026 3:48 amNo one can hear Jesus in His real voice and live; He can be heard through a manifested voice, as accounted for in the bible.Capbook wrote: Now, can you confirm that hearing the voice of your Jesus will not cause death anymore like the true Jesus in the Bible?
I would be lying if I gave in to your capricious whim, Capbook!Capbook wrote:And also can you confirm that no conversation happened in 2011 with your Jesus?
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Post #135Gen 2:17. but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it. For in the day that thou eatest thereof, thou shalt surely die.â€
Corrected verse: For in the day that thou eatest thereof, thou shalt surely be clothed in sin.
Gen 2:24. That is why a man leaves his father and mother and is united to his wife, and they become one flesh.
Corrected verse: That is why a man leaves his father and mother and is united to his wife, and I’ll give them one flesh.
No, they are not essential and needed for our salvation and eternal life.JW wrote:2. Did he provide with an exhaustive list? If not why not?
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Post #136YES!
YES!Did the child hear voices?
(please answer "yes" or "no")
He identified Himself as the Almighty God and Jesus is His name. Yes God is Spirit.If yes, does that not mean he was in communication with a spirit?
Jesus used automatic writing, too.If no, how was the information conveyed from the unseen individual "Jesus" that was using his mind to you and your family ?
NO!Was he "mind controlled" by a force that caused him to speak words that were not his own? (please answer "yes" or "no")
NO!If yes does that not mean he was being controlled by a spirit?
The child became the speaker phone of God in communicating with us.If no , in what sense was the spirit using the child's mind
Your opinion doesn’t fit God’s way of communicating with us. God is everywhere, and He needs not leave His abode, which is the infinity realm.Or are you saying that Almighty God, left his abode in heaven to physically appear on earth in the form of a young child?
Incarnation is where God dwells in a physical vessel, the man born of Mary, without [his own] spirit.
Incarnation in the classic sense usually refers to a spirit transforming himself (or being transformed) into a physical entity (different from "possession" * which is a spirit controling the body (and mind) of a physical entity.
Can you explain what "His incarnation" means in your theology? How would it differ from "possession"?
Possession is possessing someone’s body with [his own] spirit.
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Post #137Whatever, Capbook!Capbook wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2026 1:26 amDo that mean then that those no. 1 and 2 I've stated were not mine belief but yours OneJack?OneJack wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2026 3:48 amNo one can hear Jesus in His real voice and live; He can be heard through a manifested voice, as accounted for in the bible.Capbook wrote: Now, can you confirm that hearing the voice of your Jesus will not cause death anymore like the true Jesus in the Bible?
I would be lying if I gave in to your capricious whim, Capbook!Capbook wrote:And also can you confirm that no conversation happened in 2011 with your Jesus?
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Post #138There, comes the confirmation of the shortest way to the truth.OneJack wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2026 4:52 amWhatever, Capbook!Capbook wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2026 1:26 amDo that mean then that those no. 1 and 2 I've stated were not mine belief but yours OneJack?OneJack wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2026 3:48 amNo one can hear Jesus in His real voice and live; He can be heard through a manifested voice, as accounted for in the bible.Capbook wrote: Now, can you confirm that hearing the voice of your Jesus will not cause death anymore like the true Jesus in the Bible?
I would be lying if I gave in to your capricious whim, Capbook!Capbook wrote:And also can you confirm that no conversation happened in 2011 with your Jesus?
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Post #139Come now to Jesus!Capbook wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2026 1:43 amThere, comes the confirmation of the shortest way to the truth.OneJack wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2026 4:52 amWhatever, Capbook!Capbook wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2026 1:26 amDo that mean then that those no. 1 and 2 I've stated were not mine belief but yours OneJack?OneJack wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2026 3:48 amNo one can hear Jesus in His real voice and live; He can be heard through a manifested voice, as accounted for in the bible.Capbook wrote: Now, can you confirm that hearing the voice of your Jesus will not cause death anymore like the true Jesus in the Bible?
I would be lying if I gave in to your capricious whim, Capbook!Capbook wrote:And also can you confirm that no conversation happened in 2011 with your Jesus?
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Post #140Did the spirit (teenage prophet / whatever say the rest of the bible is " not essential and needed for our salvation and eternal life"? if so please provide the exact words used ( quote).OneJack wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2026 4:38 amNo, they are not essential and needed for our salvation and eternal life.JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2026 10:04 amDid he provide with an exhaustive list? If not why not?
Does "essential and needed for our salvation and eternal life" mean you do not view the verses outside of the list as orginating in the mind of GOD ? Or do you conclude they were from God but have been corrupted and are no longer accurate? (or were they originally from God but "unimportant" so worshippers can dismiss the content should they feel so inclined? )
Provide the exact quotes from the child to support your conclusion.
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"For if we live, we live to Jehovah, and if we die, we die to Jehovah. So both if we live and if we die, we belong to Jehovah" - Romans 14:8
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