My Lord and my God - Shema Trinity

[Wootah]

Thomas says, "My Lord and my God."

https://biblehub.com/text/john/20-28.htm

What did he mean to claim about Jesus?

[Elijah John]

Thomas says, "My Lord and my God."

https://biblehub.com/text/john/20-28.htm

What did he mean to claim about Jesus?

Maybe nothing. Perhaps it was simply an exclamation of amazement at the resurrection. That the Father had done something amazing and wonderous in raising Jesus from the dead.

Jesus himself considered YHVH (the Father), his God. Does God have a God?

[tigger2]

Thomas says, "My Lord and my God."

https://biblehub.com/text/john/20-28.htm

What did he mean to claim about Jesus?
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He had changed his mind about what he had previously believed when the others told him that Jesus had been resurrected. After he had actually seen Jesus, he expressed his new belief that Jesus really had been resurrected.

It may have been an exclamation praising God. These are sometimes in abbreviated form in the Greek (lacking verbs, etc.) because they are commonly-known sayings.

One thing is certain, it wasn't used as an address to Jesus.

[Wootah]

[Replying to post 2 by Elijah John]

Read the greek.

Its actually, " My lord of me, my god of me."

What did he mean?

[Wootah]

[Replying to post 3 by tigger2]

Read the greek.

Its actually, " My lord of me, my god of me."

What did he mean?

[tigger2]

[Replying to post 3 by tigger2]

Read the greek.

Its actually, " My lord of me, my god of me."

What did he mean?

It's actually "the lord of me and the god of me."

I already wrote one of the most likely meanings in my previous post.

[Tcg]

Thomas says, "My Lord and my God."

https://biblehub.com/text/john/20-28.htm

What did he mean to claim about Jesus?

Let's assume he was implying that Jesus was God. That adds up to two persons making up the Godhead, not three. It's simply math, not complex theology. Shema duality at best.


Tcg

[PinSeeker]

Let's assume he was implying that Jesus was God. That adds up to two persons making up the Godhead, not three. It's simply math, not complex theology.

The Holy Spirit had not come yet. That would not happen for a little over a month (40 days). At that time He was only promised (by God the Son; see John 14:16-17). So, One, Two, Three. Yep, simple math.

Anyhoo... Back to our regularly scheduled prograamming:

If it were merely an "exclamation," he would have been directly violating the third Commandment. Jesus would surely have rebuked Thomas for that. Instead, by Christ's silence, we should understand that He accepted Thomas's praise, even approving of it. This was John's intent in writing his Gospel. In John 20, Thomas was worshiping and praising God the Son. Figuratively speaking, He fell on his face and shouted, much as the Israelites did in Leviticus 9.

[Tcg]

Let's assume he was implying that Jesus was God. That adds up to two persons making up the Godhead, not three. It's simply math, not complex theology.

The Holy Spirit had not come yet.

Is this your suggestion that it didn't yet exist? In any case, this passage at best only supports a duality. There is no evidence of a trinity in this passage. You obviously agree by referring to other unrelated passages.


Tcg

[brianbbs67]

Thomas says, "My Lord and my God."

https://biblehub.com/text/john/20-28.htm

What did he mean to claim about Jesus?

Let's assume he was implying that Jesus was God. That adds up to two persons making up the Godhead, not three. It's simply math, not complex theology. Shema duality at best.


Tcg

This is correct. God is spirit. He will be that which He will be. Make your body a place where the LORD(YHVH) can dwell. I would not call it duality either as Christ being of the same substance as God, did not claim he was God. He just had full indwelling of the God.