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Saved by Grace through Faith

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WHICH ONE IS THE LIE?

You pick:

A.
Ephesians 2:8 (KJV)
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith;
and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

B.
All that are saved, are saved by God through Jesus Christ.
This was established and confirmed before any of them were born in the flesh.
That would require nothing from the receiver other than going through
the process of being born on earth and all that curtails.



Yours truly,
the Lord's anointed
in the seven Spirits of God

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Re: Saved by Grace through Faith

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TLIG wrote:
showme wrote:
TLIG wrote: WHICH ONE IS THE LIE?

You pick:

A.
Ephesians 2:8 (KJV)
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith;
and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

B.
All that are saved, are saved by God through Jesus Christ.
This was established and confirmed before any of them were born in the flesh.
That would require nothing from the receiver other than going through
the process of being born on earth and all that curtails.

Yours truly,
the Lord's anointed
in the seven Spirits of God
All that are "saved" from "worshipping the beast or his image" is limited to those written in the book of life from the foundation of the world (Revelation 20:4 & Revelation 13:8). Of course there are those stricken from the "book of life" (Psalms 69:28), who will share the judgment of the wicked.
I am not following your line of reasoning.
Would you please condense this down for me
so I can understand it?
Those "saved", or those who rise to reign with "Christ" for 1000 years, are those written in the book of life, and do not worship the beast, or have the mark of the beast with two horns like a lamb? Those would be limited to those written in the book of life from the foundation of the world (Revelation 13:8), by means of the grace of God. Unfortunately for the "many" (Matthew 7:13), that would apply only to the "few".

New American Standard Bible Revelation 13:8
All who dwell on the earth will worship him, everyone whose name has not been written from the foundation of the world in the book of life of the Lamb who has been slain.

New American Standard Bible Revelation 20:4
Then I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was given to them. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony of Jesus and because of the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received the mark on their forehead and on their hand; and they came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.

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Re: Saved by Grace through Faith

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showme wrote:
TLIG wrote:
showme wrote:
TLIG wrote: WHICH ONE IS THE LIE?

You pick:

A.
Ephesians 2:8 (KJV)
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith;
and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

B.
All that are saved, are saved by God through Jesus Christ.
This was established and confirmed before any of them were born in the flesh.
That would require nothing from the receiver other than going through
the process of being born on earth and all that curtails.

Yours truly,
the Lord's anointed
in the seven Spirits of God
All that are "saved" from "worshipping the beast or his image" is limited to those written in the book of life from the foundation of the world (Revelation 20:4 & Revelation 13:8). Of course there are those stricken from the "book of life" (Psalms 69:28), who will share the judgment of the wicked.
I am not following your line of reasoning.
Would you please condense this down for me
so I can understand it?
Those "saved", or those who rise to reign with "Christ" for 1000 years, are those written in the book of life, and do not worship the beast, or have the mark of the beast with two horns like a lamb? Those would be limited to those written in the book of life from the foundation of the world (Revelation 13:8), by means of the grace of God. Unfortunately for the "many" (Matthew 7:13), that would apply only to the "few".

New American Standard Bible Revelation 13:8
All who dwell on the earth will worship him, everyone whose name has not been written from the foundation of the world in the book of life of the Lamb who has been slain.

New American Standard Bible Revelation 20:4
Then I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was given to them. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony of Jesus and because of the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received the mark on their forehead and on their hand; and they came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.
I am not following your line of reasoning.
Would you please condense this down for me
so I can understand it?

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Re: Saved by Grace through Faith

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TLIG wrote: WHICH ONE IS THE LIE?

You pick:

A.
Ephesians 2:8 (KJV)
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith;
and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

B.
All that are saved, are saved by God through Jesus Christ.
This was established and confirmed before any of them were born in the flesh.
That would require nothing from the receiver other than going through
the process of being born on earth and all that curtails.



Yours truly,
the Lord's anointed
in the seven Spirits of God
Both are true.

It is the Faith of Jesus Christ by which anyone is saved:

Galatians 2:16 (KJV)
16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.

Jesus Christ had faith in God. A perfect faith. Total faith. And it was Jesus' faith that God honoured and accepted as perfect and wholly holy - without sin of doubt. Perfect!
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