WHICH ONE IS THE LIE?
You pick:
A.
Ephesians 2:8 (KJV)
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith;
and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
B.
All that are saved, are saved by God through Jesus Christ.
This was established and confirmed before any of them were born in the flesh.
That would require nothing from the receiver other than going through
the process of being born on earth and all that curtails.
Yours truly,
the Lord's anointed
in the seven Spirits of God
Saved by Grace through Faith
Moderator: Moderators
-
ttruscott
- Site Supporter
- Posts: 11064
- Joined: Tue Jan 31, 2012 5:09 pm
- Location: West Coast of Canada
- Been thanked: 3 times
Post #3
...there is none.dio9 wrote: what's the bible reference for B?
PCE Theology as I see it...
We had an existence with a free will in Sheol before the creation of the physical universe. Here we chose to be able to become holy or to be eternally evil in YHWH's sight. Then the physical universe was created and all sinners were sent to earth.
This theology debunks the need to base Christianity upon the blasphemy of creating us in Adam's sin.
We had an existence with a free will in Sheol before the creation of the physical universe. Here we chose to be able to become holy or to be eternally evil in YHWH's sight. Then the physical universe was created and all sinners were sent to earth.
This theology debunks the need to base Christianity upon the blasphemy of creating us in Adam's sin.
Post #7
I can present many bible verses
to verify anything I say to you.
I just do not need to do that
to defeat any of you in a debate.
Truth is truth
even if it is not in the bible.
Yours truly,
the Lord's anointed
in Spirit and truth.
-
brianbbs67
- Guru
- Posts: 1871
- Joined: Thu Sep 21, 2017 12:07 am
- Has thanked: 1 time
- Been thanked: 2 times
Post #8
Well, you can't defeat anyone in a debate without compelling evidence. Stating something, is not evidence.
Making blanket statements that are unfounded, except in your mind, don't count either.
Making blanket statements that are unfounded, except in your mind, don't count either.
Post #9
My opening statement to YOU in our debate:brianbbs67 wrote: Well, you can't defeat anyone in a debate without compelling evidence. Stating something, is not evidence.
Making blanket statements that are unfounded, except in your mind, don't count either.
WHICH ONE IS THE LIE?
You pick:
A.
Ephesians 2:8 (KJV)
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith;
and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
B.
All that are saved, are saved by God through Jesus Christ.
This was established and confirmed before any of them were born in the flesh.
That would require nothing from the receiver other than going through
the process of being born on earth and all that curtails.
