Why didnt Jesus like the pharisees?

[Wootah]

If the law is enough why didnt Jesus like the pharisees?

Why didnt jesus tell the young man, 'well done for following the law i'll see you in heaven'?

[JehovahsWitness]

If the law is enough why didnt Jesus like the pharisees?

Because the Pharisees went beyond the law (meaning the written law of Moses); the chose to add numerous burdensome oral traditions. Theses traditions violated the principles upon which the written law was based and made the lives of ordinary working people difficult.

JW

[Elijah John]

If the law is enough why didnt Jesus like the pharisees?

Why didnt jesus tell the young man, 'well done for following the law i'll see you in heaven'?

Well, Jesus did say this, or something very similar to someone else:

5 On one occasion an expert in the law stood up to test Jesus. “Teacher,� he asked, “what must I do to inherit eternal life?�
26 “What is written in the Law?� he replied. “How do you read it?�
27 He answered, “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind’[a]; and, ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’�
28 “You have answered correctly,� Jesus replied. “Do this and you will live.�

(Luke 10.25-28)

Notice, Jesus pointed him to the Law as summarized in the two great laws of love, for salvation. Jesus did not point him to "believe that my impending death will pay for your sins, and you will live".

Jesus opposition to some Pharisees was due to their hypocrisy, and also for their over emphasis on ritual purity, which often consisted of outward, physical practices such as the washing of hands. Jesus, by contrast, emphasized inward purity of heart and mind and purity of speech.

Blessed are the pure of heart, for they will see God.

Some scholars believe that Jesus himself was a Pharisee. They point to the shared belief in the resurrection of the dead compared to the Saducees, who did not. If this is the case, his opposition would have been to some certain Pharisees only. Also, weren't Nicodemus and Joseph of Arimthea Pharisees? And some Pharisees warned Jesus to get away, for Herod was trying to kill him. (Luke 13.31)

And Jesus himself taught that the Law and the Prophets was enough to guide one into Heaven, and that someone rising from the dead is unnecessarly and would be superflous for salvation:

27 “He answered, ‘Then I beg you, father, send Lazarus to my family, 28 for I have five brothers. Let him warn them, so that they will not also come to this place of torment.’
29 “Abraham replied, ‘They have Moses and the Prophets; let them listen to them.’
30 “‘No, father Abraham,’ he said, ‘but if someone from the dead goes to them, they will repent.
31 “He said to him, ‘If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.’�

(Luke 16.29-31)

See? The underlined word here is "repent". Jesus taught simple repentance. If one strays from the straight and narrow road that leads to Life, one need only repent to get back on.

[tam]

Peace to you,

If the law is enough why didnt Jesus like the pharisees?

Because the Pharisees went beyond the law (meaning the written law of Moses); the chose to add numerous burdensome oral traditions. Theses traditions violated the principles upon which the written law was based and made the lives of ordinary working people difficult.

JW

Indeed. Some modern religions do the exact same thing (adding numerous burdens and rules upon the people, things Christ Himself did not put upon them).


Peace again to you and to your household,
your servant and a slave of Christ,
tammy

[tam]

Peace to you,

Jesus opposition to some Pharisees was due to their hypocrisy, and also for their over emphasis on ritual purity, which often consisted of outward, physical practices such as the washing of hands. Jesus, by contrast, emphasized inward purity of heart and mind and purity of speech.

Yes, hypocrisy was a big reason that Christ rebuked the Pharisees. Their focus upon appearances as well, being 'clean' on the outside, all the while being unclean and full of dead mens' bones on the inside (which is actually also hypocrisy). Disregarding the more important matters of the law, such as mercy.

Some scholars believe that Jesus himself was a Pharisee. They point to the shared belief in the resurrection of the dead compared to the Saducees, who did not. If this is the case, his opposition would have been to some certain Pharisees only. Also, weren't Nicodemus and Joseph of Arimthea Pharisees? And some Pharisees warned Jesus to get away, for Herod was trying to kill him. (Luke 13.31)

Simon (whom my Lord has revealed is also Lazarus) was also a Pharisee, at least at the start. (Luke 7:36-50) My Lord loved him, and he learned from my Lord. But he did not remain with the sect of the Pharisees; he went with Christ.


Just something to consider though... my Lord is the Truth. Just because the Pharisees had some things (maybe even many things) right, does not mean that my Lord was a Pharisee.


Peace again to you,
your servant and a slave of Christ,
tammy

[tam]

Peace to you!


EJ, you know also that if they listened to Moses and the Prophets, that they would have to listen to Christ as well, right? Because the Moses and the Prophets bore witness to Him:

Do not think that I will accuse you before the Father. Your accuser is Moses, in whom you have put your hope. If you had believed Moses, you would believe Me, because he wrote about Me. But since you do not believe what he wrote, how will you believe what I say?� John 5:46, 47


You study the Scriptures diligently because you think that in them you have eternal life. These are the very Scriptures that testify about me, yet you refuse to come to ME to have life. John 5:39


I realize you don't really trust the claims in the gospel written by the disciple Christ loved, but these claims are backed up in Matthew and in Luke:


And beginning with Moses and all the Prophets, He explained to them what was written in all the Scriptures about Himself.



And from Acts (written by the same person who wrote the gospel of Luke), speaking of Christ:

For Moses said, 'The Lord your God will raise up for you a prophet like me from among your brothers. You must listen to Him in everything He tells you."





Peace to you,
your servant and a slave of Christ,
tammy

[dio9]

If the law is enough why didnt Jesus like the pharisees?

Why didnt jesus tell the young man, 'well done for following the law i'll see you in heaven'?

I don't see Jesus as disliking pharisees but rather as seeing them as old wine bags that couldn't hold his new wine.
Jesus saw that just following the Law wasn't enough Jesus told his disciples the needed to be greater than the righteous pharisees.

Matt. 5:20
"For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven."

[JehovahsWitness]

Peace to you,

If the law is enough why didnt Jesus like the pharisees?

Because the Pharisees went beyond the law (meaning the written law of Moses); the chose to add numerous burdensome oral traditions. Theses traditions violated the principles upon which the written law was based and made the lives of ordinary working people difficult.

JW

Indeed. Some modern religions do the exact same thing (adding numerous burdens and rules upon the people, things Christ Himself did not put upon them).


Peace again to you and to your household,
your servant and a slave of Christ,
tammy

I agree.

Jesus said nothing about which day of the week to worship.

Jesus said nothing about not eating meat on Friday.

Jesus said nothing about forbidding marriage for ministers, passing collection plates during services, charging for conducting religious weddings, funderals or bible instruction.

He did not wear special garb. Authorize anyone to mediate prayer except himself, tell his followers to celebrate his birth.

Neither did he burden his followers to isolate themselves either in remote locations or in busy cities without brotherhood and regular fellowship with fellow believers.

These things and so very much more...

[bjs]

Jesus’ most common complaint against the Pharisees was that they were hypocrites. They talked about God, but what they wanted was recognition, honor and status from people. They kept the external laws, the things that could be seen by other people, but their hearts were far from God.

[Elijah John]

[Replying to post 6 by tam]

Hi Tammy.

Yes, the Prophets spoke of the Messiah, and that could be interpreted as Jesus, but that was not their main function. The main function of the prophets was not to predict the future, but rather to speak for God, to be His mouthpiece.

And the message of God through is Prophets was most often calls to repentance.

And don't forget, the character in parable used by Jesus to convey the message of repentance was Abraham, who was speaking from Heaven. Abraham of the parable, and though this means Jesus, was directing people to the Law and Prophets for the purpose of saving repentance. Isn't the implication that the teachings of Moses and the Prophets were sufficient for salvation?

They didn't teach the importance of "belief in the Messiah's ultimate death and resurrection in order to pay for the sins of humanity" except, perhaps arguably, in Isaiah 53. But even that's a stretch, as there are details in that passage which do not apply to Jesus.

Where do conventional Christians get the notion that the Law must be kept perfectly, (with no sin ever in one's life) in order to obtain salvation? Nowhere, except perhaps, from Paul. Conventional, Pauline Christians who advance this view speak as though there was no provision for repentance and forgiveness in the "Old" Testament.

It's a false dichotomy, either keep the Law perfectly for every moment of one's life, or believe that Jesus "died to pay for your sins" and kept the law perfectly for you, in order to be saved.