Atheist For Romney

[moment_of_faith]

How many Atheist you believe voted for Romney? How many for Obama?

[Divine Insight]

Well lets say the bible is true for a second.

We are heading for hard times

Well, if you believe that's true then what you are complaining about? Are you rebelling against God's plan?

I would disagree anyway. I suggest that if the Bible is true, then everything that had been predicted by Jesus had already taken place:



Matthew 24:34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.

Mark 13:30 Verily I say unto you, that this generation shall not pass, till all these things be done.

Luke 21:32 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled.

Jesus spoke to people live, and never wrote anything down. Above we have three people reporting via hearsay rumors that Jesus told the people he was speaking to live that their generation would not pass until everything he was preaching had been done.

Therefore, if we accept for a second that the Bible is true, then we must conclude that Jesus had already come back and took his chosen people with him.

In fact, if we accept that the Bible is true, then we even have reason to believe that this did indeed happen.

Jesus clearly stated this to people whilst he was still alive.

Well, did he come back? Supposedly he did. He died, and he came back three days later. Moreover, when he came back saints were also jostled from their graves and were resurrected along with Jesus. So it sure looks like he was taking the saintly people with him this time. He also preached that only few would make it into his kingdom, so he may very well have also taken those few people and it simply didn't amount to enough to be historically noted.

So, if we accept that the Bible is true, the rapture is over. It already took place before the current generation that Jesus was speaking to had passed. We are then nothing but the descendents of the rejects. We are doomed to burn in the hell-fire, which will come when our sun finally enlarges and engulfs the earth which science has already predicted must happen.

So if you're waiting for a second coming of Jesus or a rapture, you're waiting for something that had already taken place back in the days when Jesus was here.

If we are to believe the Bible it's already OVER.

We're just the descendents of the rejects.

It's a done deal if we take this mythology seriously.

We're doomed with no possibility of salvation even available to us anymore.

Jesus wasn't speaking to us, he was clearly speaking to the generation that he was speaking to LIVE. And he promised them that everything he said would be fulfilled before their generation had passed.

So anyone who's still waiting for Jesus to come back today isn't paying attention to these stories.

[moment_of_faith]

The bible warns us of people like you. The lord tells us don't let anyone fool us about it is already happen are we are living in that time. Until we see the anti-christ sit in the temple claiming to be over every god. We have never seen that

2 Thessalonians 2:2 Now, dear brothers and sisters,[a] let us clarify some things about the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and how we will be gathered to meet him. 2 Don’t be so easily shaken or alarmed by those who say that the day of the Lord has already begun. Don’t believe them, even if they claim to have had a spiritual vision, a revelation, or a letter supposedly from us. 3 Don’t be fooled by what they say. For that day will not come until there is a great rebellion against God and the man of lawlessness is revealed—the one who brings destruction.[c] 4 He will exalt himself and defy everything that people call god and every object of worship. He will even sit in the temple of God, claiming that he himself is God.

So sorry I couldn't read all of that. Once you go wrong I have to stop there and that was when you believe it has already happened.

[Nickman]

Well one thing you can say is GOD / JESUS allowed Obama to win.

It's my own personal view that Obama is far more Christ-like than Romney.

I would suspect that if Jesus were alive in American he too would have voted for Obama over Romney.

I feel confident that Jesus would be accusing Romney of being a hypocrite just as he had accused the Pharisees.

Obama sides with the poor, and the needy, and those who are hypocritically rejected by the religious zealots of the day. Just like Jesus did.

Look at the so-called "religious" agenda. They are just out to condemn their neighbors by judging them to be sinners. Jesus himself taught 'Thou shalt not judge others', and to 'love your neighbor as thy self'. Something that "Christians" seem to have great difficulty with.

So I don't see where these modern day religious "Christians" even remotely reflect the views of Jesus.

Moreover, as I pointed out earlier, Romney was prepared to pull the rug out from under the poor and the needy, and also pull the rug out from under alternative energy research, all in favor of raping the fossil fuels of the planet so the rich could worship more mammon.

I don't see where Romney's position could even be remotely associated with the moral values attributed to Jesus.

In fact, what are you doing in this very thread but trying to use Jesus as a club to condemn Obama.

I think the RIGHT MAN got in and Jesus would be proud. After all, Obama himself is a Christian.

To each their own.

I'm just offering my perspective.

So true Christians aren't mad.

And what exactly constitutes a "True" Christian?

Someone who uses Jesus as a battering ram to judge others? (something Jesus himself rebuked)

Or someone who actually follows the moral principles that Jesus actually taught?

Well lets say the bible is true for a second. That means we are closer to the end of times not future. The bible tells us what will happen at the end times. He said it will get worse and the only one that will have any answer but will be the false one or the anti-christ.

So Obama is in the wrong position either way. It's either going to get worse or he is the anti-christ

Now the bible tells us people like you

Romans 1:21 Yes, they knew God, but they wouldn’t worship him as God or even give him thanks. And they began to think up foolish ideas of what God was like. As a result, their minds became dark and confused. 22 Claiming to be wise, they instead became utter fools.

The bible also tells us the end times will be like the days of Lot. In those days they would not help the poor and needy. That's what obama care will be when the economy goes broke.

We are heading for hard times

What does this have to do with "Atheists fo Romney"?

[moment_of_faith]

Well one thing you can say is GOD / JESUS allowed Obama to win.

It's my own personal view that Obama is far more Christ-like than Romney.

I would suspect that if Jesus were alive in American he too would have voted for Obama over Romney.

I feel confident that Jesus would be accusing Romney of being a hypocrite just as he had accused the Pharisees.

Obama sides with the poor, and the needy, and those who are hypocritically rejected by the religious zealots of the day. Just like Jesus did.

Look at the so-called "religious" agenda. They are just out to condemn their neighbors by judging them to be sinners. Jesus himself taught 'Thou shalt not judge others', and to 'love your neighbor as thy self'. Something that "Christians" seem to have great difficulty with.

So I don't see where these modern day religious "Christians" even remotely reflect the views of Jesus.

Moreover, as I pointed out earlier, Romney was prepared to pull the rug out from under the poor and the needy, and also pull the rug out from under alternative energy research, all in favor of raping the fossil fuels of the planet so the rich could worship more mammon.

I don't see where Romney's position could even be remotely associated with the moral values attributed to Jesus.

In fact, what are you doing in this very thread but trying to use Jesus as a club to condemn Obama.

I think the RIGHT MAN got in and Jesus would be proud. After all, Obama himself is a Christian.

To each their own.

I'm just offering my perspective.

So true Christians aren't mad.

And what exactly constitutes a "True" Christian?

Someone who uses Jesus as a battering ram to judge others? (something Jesus himself rebuked)

Or someone who actually follows the moral principles that Jesus actually taught?

Well lets say the bible is true for a second. That means we are closer to the end of times not future. The bible tells us what will happen at the end times. He said it will get worse and the only one that will have any answer but will be the false one or the anti-christ.

So Obama is in the wrong position either way. It's either going to get worse or he is the anti-christ

Now the bible tells us people like you

Romans 1:21 Yes, they knew God, but they wouldn’t worship him as God or even give him thanks. And they began to think up foolish ideas of what God was like. As a result, their minds became dark and confused. 22 Claiming to be wise, they instead became utter fools.

The bible also tells us the end times will be like the days of Lot. In those days they would not help the poor and needy. That's what obama care will be when the economy goes broke.

We are heading for hard times

What does this have to do with "Atheists fo Romney"?

It's called conversation. If you would like to get in you're welcome.

[dianaiad]

Any who understood that the office of the President is about leading the nation and solving the problems, not about religion.

Religion was not even a factor in this election. Romney's dirty Mormon laundry (garments)

Yep, that tells me that you weren't worried about religion, yep.

Thanks for misrepresenting my post and chopping off the rest of what I said. Nice tactic to try and make me look like I contradicted myself. Here is my real post with the part you left out bolded.

Religion was not even a factor in this election. Romney's dirty Mormon laundry (garments) were already hashed out by mainstream Christianity (I mean FOX NEWS) in the last election. Obama never once played the religion card. Hell, half of us don't even know what he believes and don't care.

Nickman, if you can't see that your characterization of Romney's religion as 'dirty laundry (garments)' is self explanatory as to your own opinion here, others can. Had it not been a factor for you, you would have used less inflammatory terms.

[moment_of_faith]

Obama never once played the religion card. Hell, half of us don't even know what he believes and don't care.

That's the problem and what we are pointing out to you. People justed voted for this man blind.

[Divine Insight]

Obama never once played the religion card. Hell, half of us don't even know what he believes and don't care.

That's the problem and what we are pointing out to you. People justed voted for this man blind.

Where do you get off saying that people voted for Obama blind?

Obama is a humanitarian. He treats people as if they are people.

Romney is a business man. He treats people like numbers on a profit spreadsheet.

I'll vote for the humanitarian over a heartless robot any day.

I didn't see where Romney had any moral principles at all.

In fact, after the election, I heard recordings of people being interviewed as they were coming out of voting booths. This was on a military base so these are all soldiers. And this is exactly what they were saying. Obama treats us like people. Romney treats us like a number.

People aren't blind at all. On the contrary, they can see very clearly.

[moment_of_faith]

Obama never once played the religion card. Hell, half of us don't even know what he believes and don't care.

That's the problem and what we are pointing out to you. People justed voted for this man blind.

Where do you get off saying that people voted for Obama blind?

Obama is a humanitarian. He treats people as if they are people.

Romney is a business man. He treats people like numbers on a profit spreadsheet.

I'll vote for the humanitarian over a heartless robot any day.

I didn't see where Romney had any moral principles at all.

In fact, after the election, I heard recordings of people being interviewed as they were coming out of voting booths. This was on a military base so these are all soldiers. And this is exactly what they were saying. Obama treats us like people. Romney treats us like a number.

People aren't blind at all. On the contrary, they can see very clearly.

would say Obama does treat everybody good unless you are a white middle age bible believing, gun carrying Christian, Tea Party of should I use his word Bagger. Oh or a Uncle Tom “ Black People That Believe / help whites�.

The funny thing is democrats can't stand the rich because of their money but they want it and they pray to Obama that the rich keep their job so Obama can tax them and give it to them who don't work.

Obama is using the 99%. They are nothing but sheep being lead to slaughter. As a Christian I worry about them as a person I almost want to be the one throws the match because they want listen and they will take everyone down with them.

You are correct me and you are 180 degrees out making one of us wrong, but I can tell you whats going to happen “ Just picked up your bible and read it literally one time� can you tell me?

[Divine Insight]

bible believing, gun carrying Christian

Sounds like a contradiction to me.

What part of Jesus' moral teachings requires carrying a gun?

[Bust Nak]

Whenever a specific group votes proportionately higher one way or another than the general public, it is because of some perception of the group; that is, African Americans vote for Obama...because he's 'black.' It's a dumb reason to vote for anybody; skin color does not reflect political expertise or ability to lead, one way or another.

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If atheists voted for Obama in disproportionate numbers (and it looks as if they did), then it is because they are concerned about something OTHER than his politics.

A specific group voting disproportionately because of some shared perception of the group is not a problem in itself.

The question is why do you think the blacks and atheists aren't voting for Obama for the perception that he reflected the morals and principles blacks and atheists believe in, but for superficial things like his skin colour and religion? You think they would have voted for a back atheistic republician over a white Christian democrat?