Hi everyone!
People say that Paul, Peter, etc, wrote "God-inspired" writings.
If Christians are their brothers and sisters in the faith, then shouldn't any new writings by them be also considered "God-inspired?"
Who says that "God-inspired" writings are limited to those of the Bible???
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Greetingsahigherway wrote:Hi everyone!
That premise is correct, most Christians believe that.ahigherway wrote:People say that Paul, Peter, etc, wrote "God-inspired" writings.
I accept the conditional, fellow believers are called brothers and sisters several times in the New Testament.ahigherway wrote:If Christians are their brothers and sisters in the faith,
I don't understand how the conclusion flows logically from the two premises. Using the Aristotelian Syllogistic logic method, this is your argument.ahigherway wrote:then shouldn't any new writings by them be also considered "God-inspired?"
Major Premise: Paul and Peter wrote God-inspired writings
Minor Premise: Christians are Paul and Peter's brothers and sisters in Christ
Conclusion: Christians' writings should be considered "God-inspired".
How do obtain that conclusion based on the premises?
My sister is a collegiate, therefore she needs to write several lengthy compositions. Next year she'll need to write a 100-paged document describing her opinion of the definition, function, and value of counseling, (she'll be getting her master's). In years past, she has received As on difficult assignments by difficult professors. She's been on the dean's list every year so far. Her English composition skills exceed mine by far. Therefore it would be illogical to make your argument in this situation.
Major Premise: My sister wrote A-grade writings
Minor Premise: I am my sister's brother in the flesh
Conclusion: My writings should be considered A-grade.
That's illogical. Both premises are correct, but the conclusion doesn't flow. Just because my sister wrote A-rated papers doesn't mean I can write A-rated papers. However, if you look back you'll see that this irrational argument mirrors your argument exactly.
P.S. It's illogical, but the conclusion is still true independent of my sister

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Hi Defender of Truth,Defender of Truth wrote:Greetingsahigherway wrote:Hi everyone!
That premise is correct, most Christians believe that.ahigherway wrote:People say that Paul, Peter, etc, wrote "God-inspired" writings.
I accept the conditional, fellow believers are called brothers and sisters several times in the New Testament.ahigherway wrote:If Christians are their brothers and sisters in the faith,
I don't understand how the conclusion flows logically from the two premises. Using the Aristotelian Syllogistic logic method, this is your argument.ahigherway wrote:then shouldn't any new writings by them be also considered "God-inspired?"
Major Premise: Paul and Peter wrote God-inspired writings
Minor Premise: Christians are Paul and Peter's brothers and sisters in Christ
Conclusion: Christians' writings should be considered "God-inspired".
How do obtain that conclusion based on the premises?
My sister is a collegiate, therefore she needs to write several lengthy compositions. Next year she'll need to write a 100-paged document describing her opinion of the definition, function, and value of counseling, (she'll be getting her master's). In years past, she has received As on difficult assignments by difficult professors. She's been on the dean's list every year so far. Her English composition skills exceed mine by far. Therefore it would be illogical to make your argument in this situation.
Major Premise: My sister wrote A-grade writings
Minor Premise: I am my sister's brother in the flesh
Conclusion: My writings should be considered A-grade.
That's illogical. Both premises are correct, but the conclusion doesn't flow. Just because my sister wrote A-rated papers doesn't mean I can write A-rated papers. However, if you look back you'll see that this irrational argument mirrors your argument exactly.
P.S. It's illogical, but the conclusion is still true independent of my sister
well, I'm not saying that whatever any Christian writes must "automatically" be God-inspired.
However, history has seen some very spiritual Christians rise up. MLK Jr, for one.
I'm sure he has written many a letter regarding the faith, yet they are not added to the Bible. Why not?
If he is a Christian, shouldn't he be inspired by the Holy Spirit to write?
Why is it, that only the documents from 2,000 years ago are considered "valid?"
Blessings,
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Yet, you also saidahigherway wrote:well, I'm not saying that whatever any Christian writes must "automatically" be God-inspired.
Just curious, what do you propose the test should be?shouldn't any new writings by them be also considered "God-inspired?"
Not at all. There were many Christians during the apostolic period who weren't inspired to write. It was only a select few.ahigherway wrote:If he is a Christian, shouldn't he be inspired by the Holy Spirit to write?
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How do you know which select few?Defender of Truth wrote: There were many Christians during the apostolic period who weren't inspired to write. It was only a select few.
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Hi again DOT,Defender of Truth wrote:Yet, you also saidahigherway wrote:well, I'm not saying that whatever any Christian writes must "automatically" be God-inspired.Just curious, what do you propose the test should be?shouldn't any new writings by them be also considered "God-inspired?"
Not at all. There were many Christians during the apostolic period who weren't inspired to write. It was only a select few.ahigherway wrote:If he is a Christian, shouldn't he be inspired by the Holy Spirit to write?
I am supposing that the writings of the early apostles were considered valid to be added to the Bible since they were led in some way by the Holy Spirit.
If not, then by what criteria are writings by Christians added to the Scriptures??
Any help appreciated.
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Us Catholics decided, we ran things in the Apostolic age.There were many Christians during the apostolic period who weren't inspired to write. It was only a select few.
How do you know which select few?
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Yes; but the question still remains:
If you are a Christian, what prevents you from writing any God-inspired material?
I'm thinking of utilizing a part of my website to allow people to upload their own "God-inspired" material for all to read.
The only question then becomes, who decides what material is God-inspired, and which is not??
Blessings,
brian
If you are a Christian, what prevents you from writing any God-inspired material?
I'm thinking of utilizing a part of my website to allow people to upload their own "God-inspired" material for all to read.
The only question then becomes, who decides what material is God-inspired, and which is not??
Blessings,
brian
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With so many protestant denominations, who is going to be "God-Inspired".
I think the bible is all the God-inspired words, but rest of Christians writing is also useful.
Us Catholics use alot Early Church Fathers teachings this is where Catholic teaching mostly comes from, passed down.
For example the letters of St.Ignatius would not be classed as God-Inspired but are used to teach us what early Christians believed in.
St.Ignatius was the fourth Pope also a Student to the Apostle John.
He died in the colesseum because he would not renounce his faith in Christ.
A POPE being killed in ROME, so Ironic!
I think the bible is all the God-inspired words, but rest of Christians writing is also useful.
Us Catholics use alot Early Church Fathers teachings this is where Catholic teaching mostly comes from, passed down.
For example the letters of St.Ignatius would not be classed as God-Inspired but are used to teach us what early Christians believed in.
St.Ignatius was the fourth Pope also a Student to the Apostle John.
He died in the colesseum because he would not renounce his faith in Christ.
A POPE being killed in ROME, so Ironic!
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The Bible is defined as those selected books approved by the Council of Nicea. This seems like an remarkably narrow sieve from which to draw one's entire body of inspirational literature, let alone to derive doctrines and dogmas from.