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WHO IS THE HOLY SPIRIT?

If one is filled with the Holy Spirit he is filled with the ‘revelation of the knowledge of God’. There is no separation between the Spirit and the Word; they are one in the same. One has no more or no less of the Holy Spirit dwelling in him than he has of Knowledge.

John 6:63, “…the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.”

I John 5:7, “For there are three that bear record in heaven, The Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.”

Revelation 19:13, “…and his name is called The Word of God.”

Isaiah 9:6, “For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty God, the everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.”

In reading you can near always interchange the words, The Truth, The Spirit, The Holy Ghost, The Comforter, God, The Word, The Great I Am, The Words of Truth, The Holy One, Lord, Father, The Almighty God, etc. because they are all synonymous.

For instance:

I Cor 14:33, “For God is not the author of confusion…”
For the Word is not the author of confusion
For the Holy Spirit is not the “ “ “
For the Comforter is not the “ “ “
For the Father is not… And so on and so forth.

God is only called by different names so that our minds can better catch His meaning. God is a Spirit, but we relate to the things that we see with our natural eyes, of which we are admonished to train our minds to the things of the Spirit.

The Word is called Father when we need to understand (according to our natural ways) the family tie God has to us.

The Word is called Spirit when we need to understand that the Word is invisible and God created everything that we see from things that we don’t see. Every definition given of God is invisible except for Christ when He was manifest in the flesh to die for the sins of the world.

At Pentecost the people were not filled with a feeling, or a wind, or and apparition (according to the natural), they were filled with the Words of Knowledge; knowledge that had never before in ages past been revealed to mankind. The Comforter had come; the Word, the Knowledge of God written and recorded for our learning.

Acts 2:11, “…we do hear them speak in our tongues the wonderful works of God.”

God the Father, the Holy Spirit, the Comforter, according to Ephesians 1:8-9, “… hath abounded toward us in all wisdom and prudence; Having made known unto us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure which he hath purposed in himself.”

I John 5:7, “For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.”

The wisdom and knowledge of God (Holy Spirit) was poured out at Pentecost and revelation was given to the Apostle Paul and recorded so that we could also walk in the knowledge of the Spirit.

I Corinthians 2:10, “But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit (the Word): for the Spirit (the Word) searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.” Heb 4:12.

When one walks in the Spirit he walks in knowledge. The Word is the Comforter and regardless of your feelings; happy, sad, sick or well, if the Word is in us the Word will comfort us in time of need. If we are discouraged then Knowledge comes to our rescue and the Holy Spirit is called the Comforter. If Satan condemns us then the Word in us casts down ever vain imagination that would exalt its self above the Knowledge of God. If one does not have the Word dwelling in him then one is unable to defend himself, he has no armor, he has no oil in his lamp; he is void of the Holy Spirit.

If one is looking for some physical feeling that the Holy Spirit is in our presence we are looking in the wrong direction. If we are looking for a feeling or a sign then we are looking to gratify the flesh and the flesh profits nothing.

The Word is referred to as the Holy Spirit because, unlike the words of man, God’s Word, when lifted from the pages of God’s Holy Book, become alive in us and sharper than any two edged sword. We are able to wrestle and win against the spirits of darkness; our enemy. The Word is indeed alive and powerful and sharper than any two-edged sword.

Luke 3:22, “And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou are my beloved Son; in thee I am well-pleased.”

The Holy Spirit was not the dove. The Holy Spirit was the Word and the Word was with God and God said: Thou are my beloved Son…The sign of the dove was given as a witness of the Words of peace that Christ was bringing to the world in the form of knowledge. The dove was not the Holy Spirit; the dove accompanied the Holy Spirit as a sign of peace. The Holy Spirit was the voice of God. Those signs were to jump-start the truth and because the mystery of godliness had never before been revealed in its fullness.

Romans 16:25-26, “Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began,
26) But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith.”

How were the prophets identified as having the Holy Spirit? Without exception, those who had the Word of God in them!

Pentecost: Acts 2:2-4, “And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting. And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit (the Word of God) gave them utterance.”

The wind was not the Holy Spirit nor was the tongues of fire upon their heads. The wind and the tongues of fire were a sign of God’s Word and its power. God’s Word is a consuming fire.

Acts 2:5-8, “And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven. Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language and they were all amazed and marveled, saying one to another, Behold, are not all these which speak Galileans? And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born?

Acts 2:11, “…we do hear them speak in our tongues the wonderful works of God.”

Genesis 1:1-3, “In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

What moved upon the face of the waters? The Living Word moved upon the face of the waters!

And God said, Let there be light and by his Word there was light.

The Father is the Word and the Word is God.
The Word is the Spirit, they are one. They are in perfect agreement and there is no division between them.

I John 5:7, “For there are three that bear record in heaven, The Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.”

Ezekiel 36:26 “A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.”

What was the new heart? The New Covenant bears the Living Words of God with the most kindhearted and tender mercy ever known to man and is identified as the Comforter. What was the new Spirit? It was the Word of the revelation of the Power of the Resurrection; the mystery of godliness revealed. What was the stony heart that was removed? The Law!

In years past I have been in churches that have believed that the Spirit was manifested to them by falling backwards; I was one of them. This is nonsense! The man next to me fell back and when the ‘catchers’ didn’t catch him, he was a giant of a man, he was terrible injured when he hit the edge of one of the pews. I was horrified.

We do not need a falling back experience today because the NT is full of the witness of the awesome power of God. At that time God felt it was necessary to indulge the flesh to bear witness of the Spirit, but today nearly everyone has a Bible on their shelf, or at the very least they have access to one.

John 4:23, “…God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in Spirit and in truth.”

John 6:63, “It is the Spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.”

So come now, let us reason together folks; if slaying in the Spirit was evidence that one had the Holy Spirit, what good has it done? Is anyone anymore knowledgeable of God when he stands up than when he fell down? The only one that I can think of is the one who hit the pew. Christians today are the most confused and deceived people on earth.

It is the Words of the Spirit that make one wise in knowledge, which is why we are admonished to study. One cannot get zapped one day by an apparition and walk in Knowledge the next, it just doesn’t happen that way. Pentecost happened once because the mystery of godliness had not yet been revealed to the world. Pentecost and divine revelation accompanied by signs initiated the recorded Word of God. There are no shortcuts today, we have the written Word and one must study to show himself approved of God, a workman that needs not be ashamed. And by this we are filled with the Spirit.

John 5:39, “Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.”

Without a doubt we have underestimated the awesome treasure that most have sitting on their shelves, the secret to Eternal Life is hidden within its pages.

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muhammad rasullah wrote:
BroOfChrist wrote:Well then InTheFlesh, I will show you what the Bible testifies about the Holy Spirit.

John 14:25-26 [All this I have spoken while still with you. But the Counselor, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in MY NAME, will teach you all things and will REMIND you of everything I have said to you.]

Here Jesus is talking about that when He leaves, the Holy Spirit who will be sent in His name will REMIND of all His teachings. So He must be talking about His Second Coming.

Hebrews 9:28 [so Christ was sacrificed once to take away the sins of many people; and HE WILL APPEAR A SECOND TIME, NOT TO BEAR SIN, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for him.]

Matthew 24:30-31 [At that time the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and all the nations of the earth will mourn. They will see the SON OF MAN COMING ON THE CLOUDS of the sky, with power and great glory. And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.]

So the Second Coming Christ will remind of Jesus teachings, will bring salvation, and will gather His elect. But there's been confusion about this because when Christ came the First time 2000 years ago, the Jews and the Pharisees expect for Him to come down from heaven litterally and didn't believe Jesus as the Messiah because they didn't know the prophecy of His First Coming as testified in the Bible.

Daniel 7:13-14 [In my vision at night I looked, and there before me was one like a SON OF MAN, COMING WITH THE CLOUDS of heaven. He approached the Ancient of Days and was led into his presence. He was given authority, glory and sovereign power; all peoples, nations and men of every language worshiped him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion that will not pass away, and his kingdom is one that will never be destroyed.]

First time Christ came says "coming with clouds".
Second time Christ come says "coming with clouds".

Also, just to clarify on Christ Second Coming, here's what Isaiah prophecied about His third coming.

Isaiah 66:15-16 [See, the LORD is coming with fire, and his chariots are like a whirlwind; he will bring down his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire. For with fire and with his sword the LORD will execute judgment upon all men, and many will be those slain by the LORD.]

Clearly when Christ comes the third time it's gonna be judgement day. So His Second Coming is to bring salvation, gather His elect, and remind Jesus teachings? So is that means that Jesus teachings will be abolished at some point in time?

Daniel 7:25 [He will speak against the Most High and oppress his saints and try to change the set times and the laws. The saints will be handed over to him for a time, times and half a time.]

I'm going stop here for now. There's much more to learn and now you guys know the role of the Holy Spirit. To remind Jesus teachings which is prophecied to be abolished in Daniel. God bless you all.
The bible does not say that jesus is the holy spirit or that he is the helper or the advocate or comforter which he prophecised. John 16:7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.

This is also in line with the quotation you pulled earlier from John 14. What is Jesus saying what jesus is doing is fortelling someone to come after him and he makes it conditional for the helper or comforters coming. He says for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.
Now if this comforter or helper as you say is the holy spirit then this statement makes no sense and Jesus is pseaking foolishly. Because since the condtion is hat Jesus must go for him to come and he will send him then the holy spirit was already present before Jesus had come. Luke 1:15 For he shall be great in the sight of the Lord, and shall drink neither wine nor strong drink; and he shall be filled with the Holy Ghost, even from his mother's womb.
And again
Luke 1:35 And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, And again
Luke 1:41 And it came to pass, that, when Elisabeth heard the salutation of Mary, the babe leaped in her womb; and Elisabeth was filled with the Holy Ghost:
And again Zacharias was also filled with the holy spirit Luke 1:67 And his father Zacharias was filled with the Holy Ghost,

So you see the holy spirit was present with John in his mothers womb, With jesus in his mothers womb, With Elisabeth who was filled with the holyspirit and Zacharias who was also filled with the holy spirit. So the thing is here is that if the comforter is the holy spirit then condition is broken because he was there before so if it is the holy spirit why would Jesus say if I go not away he will not come but if I go I will send him. When the holy spirit was already there. You see Jesus is talking about something else.
Jesus is the Holy Spirit
The Holy Spirit is Omnipresent
If Jesus is not the Holy Spirit,
explain Matthew 18:20?

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InTheFlesh wrote:
muhammad rasullah wrote:
BroOfChrist wrote:Well then InTheFlesh, I will show you what the Bible testifies about the Holy Spirit.

John 14:25-26 [All this I have spoken while still with you. But the Counselor, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in MY NAME, will teach you all things and will REMIND you of everything I have said to you.]

Here Jesus is talking about that when He leaves, the Holy Spirit who will be sent in His name will REMIND of all His teachings. So He must be talking about His Second Coming.

Hebrews 9:28 [so Christ was sacrificed once to take away the sins of many people; and HE WILL APPEAR A SECOND TIME, NOT TO BEAR SIN, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for him.]

Matthew 24:30-31 [At that time the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and all the nations of the earth will mourn. They will see the SON OF MAN COMING ON THE CLOUDS of the sky, with power and great glory. And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.]

So the Second Coming Christ will remind of Jesus teachings, will bring salvation, and will gather His elect. But there's been confusion about this because when Christ came the First time 2000 years ago, the Jews and the Pharisees expect for Him to come down from heaven litterally and didn't believe Jesus as the Messiah because they didn't know the prophecy of His First Coming as testified in the Bible.

Daniel 7:13-14 [In my vision at night I looked, and there before me was one like a SON OF MAN, COMING WITH THE CLOUDS of heaven. He approached the Ancient of Days and was led into his presence. He was given authority, glory and sovereign power; all peoples, nations and men of every language worshiped him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion that will not pass away, and his kingdom is one that will never be destroyed.]

First time Christ came says "coming with clouds".
Second time Christ come says "coming with clouds".

Also, just to clarify on Christ Second Coming, here's what Isaiah prophecied about His third coming.

Isaiah 66:15-16 [See, the LORD is coming with fire, and his chariots are like a whirlwind; he will bring down his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire. For with fire and with his sword the LORD will execute judgment upon all men, and many will be those slain by the LORD.]

Clearly when Christ comes the third time it's gonna be judgement day. So His Second Coming is to bring salvation, gather His elect, and remind Jesus teachings? So is that means that Jesus teachings will be abolished at some point in time?

Daniel 7:25 [He will speak against the Most High and oppress his saints and try to change the set times and the laws. The saints will be handed over to him for a time, times and half a time.]

I'm going stop here for now. There's much more to learn and now you guys know the role of the Holy Spirit. To remind Jesus teachings which is prophecied to be abolished in Daniel. God bless you all.
The bible does not say that jesus is the holy spirit or that he is the helper or the advocate or comforter which he prophecised. John 16:7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.

This is also in line with the quotation you pulled earlier from John 14. What is Jesus saying what jesus is doing is fortelling someone to come after him and he makes it conditional for the helper or comforters coming. He says for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.
Now if this comforter or helper as you say is the holy spirit then this statement makes no sense and Jesus is pseaking foolishly. Because since the condtion is hat Jesus must go for him to come and he will send him then the holy spirit was already present before Jesus had come. Luke 1:15 For he shall be great in the sight of the Lord, and shall drink neither wine nor strong drink; and he shall be filled with the Holy Ghost, even from his mother's womb.
And again
Luke 1:35 And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, And again
Luke 1:41 And it came to pass, that, when Elisabeth heard the salutation of Mary, the babe leaped in her womb; and Elisabeth was filled with the Holy Ghost:
And again Zacharias was also filled with the holy spirit Luke 1:67 And his father Zacharias was filled with the Holy Ghost,

So you see the holy spirit was present with John in his mothers womb, With jesus in his mothers womb, With Elisabeth who was filled with the holyspirit and Zacharias who was also filled with the holy spirit. So the thing is here is that if the comforter is the holy spirit then condition is broken because he was there before so if it is the holy spirit why would Jesus say if I go not away he will not come but if I go I will send him. When the holy spirit was already there. You see Jesus is talking about something else.
Jesus is the Holy Spirit
The Holy Spirit is Omnipresent
If Jesus is not the Holy Spirit,
explain Matthew 18:20?
Mythology or a lie. There. Explained.
Imagine the people who believe ... and not ashamed to ignore, totally, all the patient findings of thinking minds through all the centuries since the Bible.... It is these ignorant people�who would force their feeble and childish beliefs on us...I.Asimov

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daedalus 2.0 wrote:
InTheFlesh wrote:
muhammad rasullah wrote:
BroOfChrist wrote:Well then InTheFlesh, I will show you what the Bible testifies about the Holy Spirit.

John 14:25-26 [All this I have spoken while still with you. But the Counselor, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in MY NAME, will teach you all things and will REMIND you of everything I have said to you.]

Here Jesus is talking about that when He leaves, the Holy Spirit who will be sent in His name will REMIND of all His teachings. So He must be talking about His Second Coming.

Hebrews 9:28 [so Christ was sacrificed once to take away the sins of many people; and HE WILL APPEAR A SECOND TIME, NOT TO BEAR SIN, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for him.]

Matthew 24:30-31 [At that time the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and all the nations of the earth will mourn. They will see the SON OF MAN COMING ON THE CLOUDS of the sky, with power and great glory. And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.]

So the Second Coming Christ will remind of Jesus teachings, will bring salvation, and will gather His elect. But there's been confusion about this because when Christ came the First time 2000 years ago, the Jews and the Pharisees expect for Him to come down from heaven litterally and didn't believe Jesus as the Messiah because they didn't know the prophecy of His First Coming as testified in the Bible.

Daniel 7:13-14 [In my vision at night I looked, and there before me was one like a SON OF MAN, COMING WITH THE CLOUDS of heaven. He approached the Ancient of Days and was led into his presence. He was given authority, glory and sovereign power; all peoples, nations and men of every language worshiped him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion that will not pass away, and his kingdom is one that will never be destroyed.]

First time Christ came says "coming with clouds".
Second time Christ come says "coming with clouds".

Also, just to clarify on Christ Second Coming, here's what Isaiah prophecied about His third coming.

Isaiah 66:15-16 [See, the LORD is coming with fire, and his chariots are like a whirlwind; he will bring down his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire. For with fire and with his sword the LORD will execute judgment upon all men, and many will be those slain by the LORD.]

Clearly when Christ comes the third time it's gonna be judgement day. So His Second Coming is to bring salvation, gather His elect, and remind Jesus teachings? So is that means that Jesus teachings will be abolished at some point in time?

Daniel 7:25 [He will speak against the Most High and oppress his saints and try to change the set times and the laws. The saints will be handed over to him for a time, times and half a time.]

I'm going stop here for now. There's much more to learn and now you guys know the role of the Holy Spirit. To remind Jesus teachings which is prophecied to be abolished in Daniel. God bless you all.
The bible does not say that jesus is the holy spirit or that he is the helper or the advocate or comforter which he prophecised. John 16:7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.

This is also in line with the quotation you pulled earlier from John 14. What is Jesus saying what jesus is doing is fortelling someone to come after him and he makes it conditional for the helper or comforters coming. He says for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.
Now if this comforter or helper as you say is the holy spirit then this statement makes no sense and Jesus is pseaking foolishly. Because since the condtion is hat Jesus must go for him to come and he will send him then the holy spirit was already present before Jesus had come. Luke 1:15 For he shall be great in the sight of the Lord, and shall drink neither wine nor strong drink; and he shall be filled with the Holy Ghost, even from his mother's womb.
And again
Luke 1:35 And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, And again
Luke 1:41 And it came to pass, that, when Elisabeth heard the salutation of Mary, the babe leaped in her womb; and Elisabeth was filled with the Holy Ghost:
And again Zacharias was also filled with the holy spirit Luke 1:67 And his father Zacharias was filled with the Holy Ghost,

So you see the holy spirit was present with John in his mothers womb, With jesus in his mothers womb, With Elisabeth who was filled with the holyspirit and Zacharias who was also filled with the holy spirit. So the thing is here is that if the comforter is the holy spirit then condition is broken because he was there before so if it is the holy spirit why would Jesus say if I go not away he will not come but if I go I will send him. When the holy spirit was already there. You see Jesus is talking about something else.
Jesus is the Holy Spirit
The Holy Spirit is Omnipresent
If Jesus is not the Holy Spirit,
explain Matthew 18:20?
Mythology or a lie. There. Explained.
It's neither.
The Lord is that Spirit.
Jesus is Lord!

But like I say,
Opinions are like assholes
everyone has one.
You're entitled to yours!

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InTheFlesh wrote:
daedalus 2.0 wrote:
InTheFlesh wrote:
Jesus is the Holy Spirit
The Holy Spirit is Omnipresent
If Jesus is not the Holy Spirit,
explain Matthew 18:20?
Mythology or a lie. There. Explained.
It's neither.
The Lord is that Spirit.
Jesus is Lord!

But like I say,
Opinions are like assholes
everyone has one.
You're entitled to yours!
Everyone has opinions, but some are better informed than others. The Holy Spirit is nothing but a mythology. It is a specter, a ghost, Chi. Otherwise known as magic.
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daedalus 2.0 wrote: Everyone has opinions, but some are better informed than others. The Holy Spirit is nothing but a mythology. It is a specter, a ghost, Chi. Otherwise known as magic.
I'm told that it's actually Casper, the Holy Ghost.

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What's funny is that the early church used illuminated manuscripts to convince people to believe. They would illustrate a story or two out of the bible, like a comic book, and that's what they used as promotional material. (Since most people couldn't read back them).

So, when they drew the Holy Ghost it really may have looked like Casper! Who knows? It's possible and you can't disprove it!
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daedalus 2.0 wrote:What's funny is that the early church used illuminated manuscripts to convince people to believe. They would illustrate a story or two out of the bible, like a comic book, and that's what they used as promotional material. (Since most people couldn't read back them).

So, when they drew the Holy Ghost it really may have looked like Casper! Who knows? It's possible and you can't disprove it!
It would explain so much. I always knew that Casper was the one good ghost; I never suspected he was all-good!

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Thought Criminal wrote:
daedalus 2.0 wrote:What's funny is that the early church used illuminated manuscripts to convince people to believe. They would illustrate a story or two out of the bible, like a comic book, and that's what they used as promotional material. (Since most people couldn't read back them).

So, when they drew the Holy Ghost it really may have looked like Casper! Who knows? It's possible and you can't disprove it!
It would explain so much. I always knew that Casper was the one good ghost; I never suspected he was all-good!

TC
hahaha

Imagine, all you have to do is make the leap of Faith that everything Casper says is true, an, Lo!, it will all be true: just like Jesus!
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InTheFlesh wrote:Jesus is the Holy Ghost!

"For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one"

God is ONE!
Just like we are ONE.
We have body, soul and spirit and we are ONE!
Are we 3 persons?
We only have one body.
We were made in the image of God.
Jesus is the image of the invisible God,
God is ONE!
Actually, God is one, yes. But the Holy Spirit is not part of this. there is God the Father, and God the Son. They make up one family. The Holy Spirit is not a being, but is simply the life, or breath, of God. If you notice, in most bibles, the quote you gave was simply added much later by men trying to validate the trinity. It was never in the original manuscripts. The trinity is a false, pagan belief, and is not taught by the bible. You will find it nowhere in any original writings.

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InTheFlesh wrote: God is ONE!
Just like we are ONE.
We have body, soul and spirit and we are ONE!
Are we 3 persons?
We only have one body.
We were made in the image of God.
Jesus is the image of the invisible God,
God is ONE!
What about Brittney and Abby Hensel? They have one body, two brains.

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Do they have one soul or two? One body or two?

Are they two people or one?


Are you saying God has 3 heads?

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Imagine the people who believe ... and not ashamed to ignore, totally, all the patient findings of thinking minds through all the centuries since the Bible.... It is these ignorant people�who would force their feeble and childish beliefs on us...I.Asimov

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