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What is "a god?"

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Men have imagined many myths, legends, idols, gods, goddesses, heroes, demons, angels, saints, sun gods, moon gods, the gods of the hills, and the thousands of gods of ancient Egypt, Assyria, Persia, Babylon, Greece, and Rome; if gathered together in one place their images would fill the Smithsonian or the Colosseum in Rome.

There are those on this forum that claim Jesus Christ is not the true God. If this is true, he must be a false god like all other gods mentioned above because there is only one true God. And if Jesus is only “a god” what is he the god of?

My Bible claims the true God or Jehovah as some prefer to call him is perfect in power, wisdom, and goodness and is to be worshipped by his faithful followers. The LORD is both the Creator and ruler of the universe; and in the Old Testament, he is called, “I Am, Elohim, or Jehovah.”

So, if Jesus Christ is only “a god,” he is not worthy of any Christian’s love, honor, or respect.

Some claim we can pay obeisance to Jesus, but we cannot worship him. If we can pay obeisance to Jesus who is only "a god," why would it be wrong to bow a knee to any man who claims to be God, or even Satan who is the prince of the power of the air?

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onewithhim wrote: Sat Jun 28, 2025 2:51 pmIt can be shown that Jehovah IS the Father.
Are you actually going to do so, or are you getting me all excited for nothing?
onewithhim wrote: Sat Jun 28, 2025 2:51 pmOrthodox Trinitarian theology is spurious, IMHO.
When Episcopalians start using scare quotes in their Bibles, I'll think that maybe you're onto something.
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Difflugia wrote: Sat Jun 28, 2025 8:43 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sat Jun 28, 2025 2:51 pmIt can be shown that Jehovah IS the Father.
Are you actually going to do so, or are you getting me all excited for nothing?
onewithhim wrote: Sat Jun 28, 2025 2:51 pmOrthodox Trinitarian theology is spurious, IMHO.
When Episcopalians start using scare quotes in their Bibles, I'll think that maybe you're onto something.
Onewithhim wrote, "It can be shown that Jehovah is the Father.

Agreed: But it can also be shown with a mountain of evidence that Jesus is the Jehovah of the Old Testament. I notice that you have continually ignored certain posts concerning Jehovah's face-to-face encounters with the ancient prophets. Men and woman like Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Samuel, Manoah, Sarah, and Haggar as well as others. Example: Answer the following:

Genesis 18:1, "And the LORD (Jehovah) APPEARED unto him (Abraham) in the plains of Mamre:" This verse is so clear, I call it (Peski reality) for you Witnesses. If no man has seen the Father, then Jehovah here has to be the Son of God. And don't claim it was an angel. No, it was Jehovah who appeared to Abraham, and no other.

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Difflugia wrote: Sat Jun 28, 2025 8:43 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sat Jun 28, 2025 2:51 pmIt can be shown that Jehovah IS the Father.
Are you actually going to do so, or are you getting me all excited for nothing?
Could you once again explain what God is to you? Did you say that Jehovah is the Father, Son and H.S.? All three? Please refresh my memory.
If that is true, then why would Jehovah be anointing part of himself?

"The spirit of the Sovereign Lord Jehovah is upon me [Jesus], for the reason that Jehovah has anointed me to tell the good news to the meek ones. He has sent me to bind up the brokenhearted...etc....to proclaim the year of goodwill on the part of Jehovah and the day of vengeance on the part of our God." (Isaiah 61:1,2) Did Jehovah anoint and send a part of Himself? (See also Luke 4:18-21.)

Or does Jehovah stand alone as an individual, with the Son also standing alone as an individual and not part of Jehovah? If we have Jehovah and the Son by themselves....then who is the Father?

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onewithhim wrote: Sat Jul 05, 2025 7:18 pm
Difflugia wrote: Sat Jun 28, 2025 8:43 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sat Jun 28, 2025 2:51 pmIt can be shown that Jehovah IS the Father.
Are you actually going to do so, or are you getting me all excited for nothing?
Could you once again explain what God is to you? Did you say that Jehovah is the Father, Son and H.S.? All three? Please refresh my memory.
If that is true, then why would Jehovah be anointing part of himself?

"The spirit of the Sovereign Lord Jehovah is upon me [Jesus], for the reason that Jehovah has anointed me to tell the good news to the meek ones. He has sent me to bind up the brokenhearted...etc....to proclaim the year of goodwill on the part of Jehovah and the day of vengeance on the part of our God." (Isaiah 61:1,2) Did Jehovah anoint and send a part of Himself? (See also Luke 4:18-21.)

Or does Jehovah stand alone as an individual, with the Son also standing alone as an individual and not part of Jehovah? If we have Jehovah and the Son by themselves....then who is the Father?
Why would the Father anoint himself? Scripture is clear, he anointed his only begotten Son. The meek ones are the Jews. Jesus was sent to seek and to save the lost sheep of the house of Israel, not the Gentiles. The wrath of God will come down from heaven when the Father again sends his Son, Revelation 19.

I do not understand why certain people find it so difficult to understand that the Father and Son share the same name and the same attributes. Even if Jesus did not share the same name as his Father, he still shares the same attributes, attributes only God can claim. The Son was sent from eternity to create the heavens and earth and all that is in them. He was again sent to save the Lost sheep of the house of Israel. He will be sent a 3d time to judge the earth and to take vengeance out on sinners who refuse to repent, and, to establish his Kingdom.

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