Moses wrote 3500 years ago and the writers of the New Testament 2000 years ago. Yet science appears only now to be catching up with God’s word. Following is proof that Jesus is God, the Son of God, and Son of man, and that he is without beginning.
The mother provides her unborn developing infant with the nutritive elements for building its physical body in her womb, but all the blood that forms in the unborn child is formed in the embryo itself and only as a result of the father’s contribution; therefore, not one drop of blood ever passes from the mother to the child.
And so goes the miracle of the conception of the virgin birth. Luke 1:30-35, the angel came to Mary and said --- “Behold, you shall conceive in your womb, and bring forth a son, and shall call his name Jesus.” --- “The Holy Ghost shall come upon you, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow you: therefore also that Holy One (Jesus) which shall be born of you shall be called the Son of God.”
This was a male sperm inserted into the womb of a virgin. Was this seed taken directly from the Father or the Son? Or was it created? If created, then it can be said Jesus was created like all men. Now, because Mary conceived by supernatural insemination of the Holy Spirit, and the seed was that of God, the child born of this seed was born without spot or blemish, and without a sinful nature.
So, Jesus was of Adam's race according to the flesh, but he did not inherit Adam's nature. Mary's geology is traced back to Adam, Luke 3:38.
This provides us with the evidence, that sin is NOT transmitted through the flesh but through the blood. And though Jesus was of the "seed of David” and of the "seed of Adam" through Mary according to the flesh" He was, 1 Timothy 3:16, “God manifest in the flesh, and as Matthew 1:23 states, “God with us.” That newborn child was born perfectly human in the flesh, and yet perfectly God. And because the seed was that of God, our faith, and his precious blood gave us victory over death and hell.
Romans 5:9, "Justified by His blood we shall be saved from wrath, through Him." The phrase, to be "saved from wrath, through Him"
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Post #41It is interesting that the Bible says "through" him. I think the true creator is the one who created through him.SiNcE_1985 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 6:57 am ...which states that Christ is the CREATOR of all things....
...All things have been created through him...
Col. 1:14-16
Jesus himself says he cannot do anything of himself.
Jesus therefore answered them, "Most assuredly, I tell you, the Son can do nothing of himself, but what he sees the Father doing. For whatever things he does, these the Son also does like-wise.
John 5:19
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Post #42Why God say, Let us make man in our image.1213 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 29, 2025 1:30 amIt is interesting that the Bible says "through" him. I think the true creator is the one who created through him.SiNcE_1985 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 6:57 am ...which states that Christ is the CREATOR of all things....
...All things have been created through him...
Col. 1:14-16
Jesus himself says he cannot do anything of himself.
Jesus therefore answered them, "Most assuredly, I tell you, the Son can do nothing of himself, but what he sees the Father doing. For whatever things he does, these the Son also does like-wise.
John 5:19
Do it mean that the Father was talking to one who had the power to create also?( 1Col 1:16)
And without Him not one thing came into being. (John 1:3)
Jhn 1:3 All things came into being through Him, and without Him not even one thing came into being that has come into being.]
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Post #43I believe it is possible God was speaking to Jesus. But, I rather leave that question open, because it is not directly said in the Bible.
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Post #44No, there were others resurrected before Jesus himself. The "first" means he was the first to be resurrected to spiritual life in heaven. Before him there were none who were raised to spirit life.
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Post #45It's very clear:
"Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature." (Colossians 1:15, KJV)
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Post #46[Replying to onewithhim in post #45]
The word 'firstborn' implies a beginning and being created. Colossians 1:15 has NOTHING to do with creation other than Christ being the first to be created.
The word 'firstborn' implies a beginning and being created. Colossians 1:15 has NOTHING to do with creation other than Christ being the first to be created.
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Post #47Let's have some fun.onewithhim wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2025 6:26 pm
It's very clear:
"Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature." (Colossians 1:15, KJV)
If you'd be so kind, can you explain to me what the word firstborn means in every one of these following contexts..
Gen 27:32 "His father Isaac asked him, “Who are you?” “I am your son,” he answered, “your firstborn, Esau.”
Exo 4:22 "Then say to Pharaoh, ‘This is what the Lord says: Israel is my firstborn son,"
Ps 89:27 "And I will appoint him to be my firstborn, the most exalted of the kings of the earth."
Jere 31:9 "They will come with weeping; they will pray as I bring them back. I will lead them beside streams of water on a level path where they will not stumble, because I am Israel’s father, and Ephraim is my firstborn son."
Can you please, as brief yet precise as you can, explain to me the context of the word firstborn in each verse.
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Post #48Looks like you conveniently ignored part of Capbook's response.1213 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 29, 2025 1:30 amIt is interesting that the Bible says "through" him. I think the true creator is the one who created through him.SiNcE_1985 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 6:57 am ...which states that Christ is the CREATOR of all things....
...All things have been created through him...
Col. 1:14-16
Jesus himself says he cannot do anything of himself.
Jesus therefore answered them, "Most assuredly, I tell you, the Son can do nothing of himself, but what he sees the Father doing. For whatever things he does, these the Son also does like-wise.
John 5:19
Jhn 1:3 All things came into being through Him, and without Him not even one thing came into being that has come into being.
Since Jesus made all things, it makes sense that all things were made THROUGH him.
I dont see the issue here.
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Post #49If resurrected means, rise to heaven, who did it before Jesus?
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Re: With God, nothing is impossible.
Post #501213 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 29, 2025 1:30 amIt is interesting that the Bible says "through" him. I think the true creator is the one who created through him.SiNcE_1985 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 6:57 am ...which states that Christ is the CREATOR of all things....
...All things have been created through him...
Col. 1:14-16
Correction, only the N.W.T. used the phrase "Through him." All other Bibles published say, "For BY him were all things created." Verse 14, "We have redemption THROUGH his (Jesus) blood, even the forgiveness of sins.