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God writes the names. Eddie proved it.
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Capbook wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2024 1:38 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sun Nov 17, 2024 5:09 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 5:10 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2024 5:28 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2024 8:37 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2024 6:03 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2024 5:04 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2024 12:42 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2024 3:36 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2024 10:23 am
They aren't literally "one." They are one in agreement. The Son agrees with everything the Father says and does.

"Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise." (John 5:19, KJV)
They are one in the state of being God.(John 1:1)(Col 2:9) Jesus follows and agrees with the Father as they are one and united in purpose and will, the salvation of man.
Though we are not of the san\me will.
Are we not of the same state in humanity?
That is correct, Jesus and his Father agree and are one in purpose. Jesus' and the Father's wills are not the same. Jesus did not want to bring disgrace on Jehovah's name by dying as a seditionist, but Jehovah let it happen. Jesus said that their wills were not the same: "'My Father, if it is possible, let this cup pass away from me. Yet, not as I will, but as you will." (Matthew 26:39b)

He said: "I cannot do a single thing of my own initiative, just as I hear, I judge; and the judgment that I render is righteous, because I seek, not my own will, but the will of him that sent me." (John 5:30)

It is obvious that Jesus is subordinate to the Father. When it comes to who has the last word, it is the Father. He is superior to the Son, and His will is carried out, even though the Son objects. Therefore Jesus is not equal to the Father, and he is not God.
Did Jesus did not drink the cup?
Did Jesus pursue His own will?
Yes the Father is higher in position, role, rank, etc than Jesus, but that does not mean that Jesus is not God. .
They are one and the same in the state of being God. (Col 2:9)
Just like you and your son, you have higher position, role, rank and etc in your family but that does not mean that you are more human than you son. You and your son are one and the same in the state of humanity.
Jesus drank the cup. He did not pursue his own will. No, my son and I are not the same. I am his mother and he could never have the position that I have as his mother. We are the same as human beings, the fact that we are flesh and blood. Jesus and his Father are both spirit Persons but that is the only way they are the same. The Father is always the head of everything, including Jesus Christ. "...The head of the Christ is God." (I Corinth. 11:3)
Yes, the Father is the head and higher position than Jesus but they are one in the state of being God. That is why Jesus is being called Son of God.
Same with you and your son, one and the same in the state of humanity.
And you son can be called son of man/woman or human.
If the Father is the head of Christ and higher in position, that clearly shows that Christ is not God. He is the Son of God. Why do you insist that God is also His Son? Jesus and his Father are both spirit Persons but that is the only way they are the same, just as my son and I are both flesh and blood but that is the only way he and I are the same.
No, I do not mean that the Father is also the Son. They are different person one in the state of being God.
What do you mean that Jesus and the Father are both spirit Persons? Is Jesus also a spirit to you?
What I bring more emphasis here is;
We are one and the same in the state of being human.
And the Father and Jesus are one and the same in the state of being God.
No....rather in the state of being spirits. God is a spirit (John 4:24) and Jesus returned to heaven with a spirit body just like his Father and the angels. He dwells in unapproachable light in heaven, that no man has seen nor can see. (I Timothy 6:16)
I'm a little confuse of your explanation, may I do the logic;
1. God is spirit, right?
2. The father and Jesus are the same in the state of being spirit. Right?
3. As God is spirit,
3. Therefore they are the same in the state of being God as God is spirit.
They are not in the "same state of being God." God and Jesus are both Spirits but that doesn't make them both God.
That's like saying that the President is human and Capbook is human, therefore Capbook is the President. But Capbook is not the President. Neither is Jesus God. Still confused?

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Re: Book Of Life ( Who Writes The Names)

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onewithhim wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2024 3:32 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2024 1:38 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sun Nov 17, 2024 5:09 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 5:10 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2024 5:28 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2024 8:37 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2024 6:03 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2024 5:04 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2024 12:42 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2024 3:36 pm

They are one in the state of being God.(John 1:1)(Col 2:9) Jesus follows and agrees with the Father as they are one and united in purpose and will, the salvation of man.
Though we are not of the san\me will.
Are we not of the same state in humanity?
That is correct, Jesus and his Father agree and are one in purpose. Jesus' and the Father's wills are not the same. Jesus did not want to bring disgrace on Jehovah's name by dying as a seditionist, but Jehovah let it happen. Jesus said that their wills were not the same: "'My Father, if it is possible, let this cup pass away from me. Yet, not as I will, but as you will." (Matthew 26:39b)

He said: "I cannot do a single thing of my own initiative, just as I hear, I judge; and the judgment that I render is righteous, because I seek, not my own will, but the will of him that sent me." (John 5:30)

It is obvious that Jesus is subordinate to the Father. When it comes to who has the last word, it is the Father. He is superior to the Son, and His will is carried out, even though the Son objects. Therefore Jesus is not equal to the Father, and he is not God.
Did Jesus did not drink the cup?
Did Jesus pursue His own will?
Yes the Father is higher in position, role, rank, etc than Jesus, but that does not mean that Jesus is not God. .
They are one and the same in the state of being God. (Col 2:9)
Just like you and your son, you have higher position, role, rank and etc in your family but that does not mean that you are more human than you son. You and your son are one and the same in the state of humanity.
Jesus drank the cup. He did not pursue his own will. No, my son and I are not the same. I am his mother and he could never have the position that I have as his mother. We are the same as human beings, the fact that we are flesh and blood. Jesus and his Father are both spirit Persons but that is the only way they are the same. The Father is always the head of everything, including Jesus Christ. "...The head of the Christ is God." (I Corinth. 11:3)
Yes, the Father is the head and higher position than Jesus but they are one in the state of being God. That is why Jesus is being called Son of God.
Same with you and your son, one and the same in the state of humanity.
And you son can be called son of man/woman or human.
If the Father is the head of Christ and higher in position, that clearly shows that Christ is not God. He is the Son of God. Why do you insist that God is also His Son? Jesus and his Father are both spirit Persons but that is the only way they are the same, just as my son and I are both flesh and blood but that is the only way he and I are the same.
No, I do not mean that the Father is also the Son. They are different person one in the state of being God.
What do you mean that Jesus and the Father are both spirit Persons? Is Jesus also a spirit to you?
What I bring more emphasis here is;
We are one and the same in the state of being human.
And the Father and Jesus are one and the same in the state of being God.
No....rather in the state of being spirits. God is a spirit (John 4:24) and Jesus returned to heaven with a spirit body just like his Father and the angels. He dwells in unapproachable light in heaven, that no man has seen nor can see. (I Timothy 6:16)
I'm a little confuse of your explanation, may I do the logic;
1. God is spirit, right?
2. The father and Jesus are the same in the state of being spirit. Right?
3. As God is spirit,
3. Therefore they are the same in the state of being God as God is spirit.
They are not in the "same state of being God." God and Jesus are both Spirits but that doesn't make them both God.
That's like saying that the President is human and Capbook is human, therefore Capbook is the President. But Capbook is not the President. Neither is Jesus God. Still confused?
Your example is not from the Bible.

It is this way;
1. God is Spirit
2. As Jesus is Spirit, therefore He is God.

Is it not your belief that Jesus upon resurrection become a spirit?
And may I know if you can address this question;
What happen to Jesus' body when He goes to heaven?

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Capbook wrote: Sat Nov 30, 2024 2:02 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2024 3:32 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2024 1:38 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sun Nov 17, 2024 5:09 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 5:10 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2024 5:28 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2024 8:37 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2024 6:03 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2024 5:04 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2024 12:42 pm
That is correct, Jesus and his Father agree and are one in purpose. Jesus' and the Father's wills are not the same. Jesus did not want to bring disgrace on Jehovah's name by dying as a seditionist, but Jehovah let it happen. Jesus said that their wills were not the same: "'My Father, if it is possible, let this cup pass away from me. Yet, not as I will, but as you will." (Matthew 26:39b)

He said: "I cannot do a single thing of my own initiative, just as I hear, I judge; and the judgment that I render is righteous, because I seek, not my own will, but the will of him that sent me." (John 5:30)

It is obvious that Jesus is subordinate to the Father. When it comes to who has the last word, it is the Father. He is superior to the Son, and His will is carried out, even though the Son objects. Therefore Jesus is not equal to the Father, and he is not God.
Did Jesus did not drink the cup?
Did Jesus pursue His own will?
Yes the Father is higher in position, role, rank, etc than Jesus, but that does not mean that Jesus is not God. .
They are one and the same in the state of being God. (Col 2:9)
Just like you and your son, you have higher position, role, rank and etc in your family but that does not mean that you are more human than you son. You and your son are one and the same in the state of humanity.
Jesus drank the cup. He did not pursue his own will. No, my son and I are not the same. I am his mother and he could never have the position that I have as his mother. We are the same as human beings, the fact that we are flesh and blood. Jesus and his Father are both spirit Persons but that is the only way they are the same. The Father is always the head of everything, including Jesus Christ. "...The head of the Christ is God." (I Corinth. 11:3)
Yes, the Father is the head and higher position than Jesus but they are one in the state of being God. That is why Jesus is being called Son of God.
Same with you and your son, one and the same in the state of humanity.
And you son can be called son of man/woman or human.
If the Father is the head of Christ and higher in position, that clearly shows that Christ is not God. He is the Son of God. Why do you insist that God is also His Son? Jesus and his Father are both spirit Persons but that is the only way they are the same, just as my son and I are both flesh and blood but that is the only way he and I are the same.
No, I do not mean that the Father is also the Son. They are different person one in the state of being God.
What do you mean that Jesus and the Father are both spirit Persons? Is Jesus also a spirit to you?
What I bring more emphasis here is;
We are one and the same in the state of being human.
And the Father and Jesus are one and the same in the state of being God.
No....rather in the state of being spirits. God is a spirit (John 4:24) and Jesus returned to heaven with a spirit body just like his Father and the angels. He dwells in unapproachable light in heaven, that no man has seen nor can see. (I Timothy 6:16)
I'm a little confuse of your explanation, may I do the logic;
1. God is spirit, right?
2. The father and Jesus are the same in the state of being spirit. Right?
3. As God is spirit,
3. Therefore they are the same in the state of being God as God is spirit.
They are not in the "same state of being God." God and Jesus are both Spirits but that doesn't make them both God.
That's like saying that the President is human and Capbook is human, therefore Capbook is the President. But Capbook is not the President. Neither is Jesus God. Still confused?
Your example is not from the Bible.

It is this way;
1. God is Spirit
2. As Jesus is Spirit, therefore He is God.

Is it not your belief that Jesus upon resurrection become a spirit?
And may I know if you can address this question;
What happen to Jesus' body when He goes to heaven?
The angels are spirits. Are they also God?

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onewithhim wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 10:38 am
Capbook wrote: Sat Nov 30, 2024 2:02 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2024 3:32 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2024 1:38 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sun Nov 17, 2024 5:09 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 5:10 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2024 5:28 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2024 8:37 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2024 6:03 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2024 5:04 pm

Did Jesus did not drink the cup?
Did Jesus pursue His own will?
Yes the Father is higher in position, role, rank, etc than Jesus, but that does not mean that Jesus is not God. .
They are one and the same in the state of being God. (Col 2:9)
Just like you and your son, you have higher position, role, rank and etc in your family but that does not mean that you are more human than you son. You and your son are one and the same in the state of humanity.
Jesus drank the cup. He did not pursue his own will. No, my son and I are not the same. I am his mother and he could never have the position that I have as his mother. We are the same as human beings, the fact that we are flesh and blood. Jesus and his Father are both spirit Persons but that is the only way they are the same. The Father is always the head of everything, including Jesus Christ. "...The head of the Christ is God." (I Corinth. 11:3)
Yes, the Father is the head and higher position than Jesus but they are one in the state of being God. That is why Jesus is being called Son of God.
Same with you and your son, one and the same in the state of humanity.
And you son can be called son of man/woman or human.
If the Father is the head of Christ and higher in position, that clearly shows that Christ is not God. He is the Son of God. Why do you insist that God is also His Son? Jesus and his Father are both spirit Persons but that is the only way they are the same, just as my son and I are both flesh and blood but that is the only way he and I are the same.
No, I do not mean that the Father is also the Son. They are different person one in the state of being God.
What do you mean that Jesus and the Father are both spirit Persons? Is Jesus also a spirit to you?
What I bring more emphasis here is;
We are one and the same in the state of being human.
And the Father and Jesus are one and the same in the state of being God.
No....rather in the state of being spirits. God is a spirit (John 4:24) and Jesus returned to heaven with a spirit body just like his Father and the angels. He dwells in unapproachable light in heaven, that no man has seen nor can see. (I Timothy 6:16)
I'm a little confuse of your explanation, may I do the logic;
1. God is spirit, right?
2. The father and Jesus are the same in the state of being spirit. Right?
3. As God is spirit,
3. Therefore they are the same in the state of being God as God is spirit.
They are not in the "same state of being God." God and Jesus are both Spirits but that doesn't make them both God.
That's like saying that the President is human and Capbook is human, therefore Capbook is the President. But Capbook is not the President. Neither is Jesus God. Still confused?
Your example is not from the Bible.

It is this way;
1. God is Spirit
2. As Jesus is Spirit, therefore He is God.

Is it not your belief that Jesus upon resurrection become a spirit?
And may I know if you can address this question;
What happen to Jesus' body when He goes to heaven?
The angels are spirits. Are they also God?

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onewithhim wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 10:38 am
Capbook wrote: Sat Nov 30, 2024 2:02 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2024 3:32 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2024 1:38 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sun Nov 17, 2024 5:09 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 5:10 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2024 5:28 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2024 8:37 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2024 6:03 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2024 5:04 pm

Did Jesus did not drink the cup?
Did Jesus pursue His own will?
Yes the Father is higher in position, role, rank, etc than Jesus, but that does not mean that Jesus is not God. .
They are one and the same in the state of being God. (Col 2:9)
Just like you and your son, you have higher position, role, rank and etc in your family but that does not mean that you are more human than you son. You and your son are one and the same in the state of humanity.
Jesus drank the cup. He did not pursue his own will. No, my son and I are not the same. I am his mother and he could never have the position that I have as his mother. We are the same as human beings, the fact that we are flesh and blood. Jesus and his Father are both spirit Persons but that is the only way they are the same. The Father is always the head of everything, including Jesus Christ. "...The head of the Christ is God." (I Corinth. 11:3)
Yes, the Father is the head and higher position than Jesus but they are one in the state of being God. That is why Jesus is being called Son of God.
Same with you and your son, one and the same in the state of humanity.
And you son can be called son of man/woman or human.
If the Father is the head of Christ and higher in position, that clearly shows that Christ is not God. He is the Son of God. Why do you insist that God is also His Son? Jesus and his Father are both spirit Persons but that is the only way they are the same, just as my son and I are both flesh and blood but that is the only way he and I are the same.
No, I do not mean that the Father is also the Son. They are different person one in the state of being God.
What do you mean that Jesus and the Father are both spirit Persons? Is Jesus also a spirit to you?
What I bring more emphasis here is;
We are one and the same in the state of being human.
And the Father and Jesus are one and the same in the state of being God.
No....rather in the state of being spirits. God is a spirit (John 4:24) and Jesus returned to heaven with a spirit body just like his Father and the angels. He dwells in unapproachable light in heaven, that no man has seen nor can see. (I Timothy 6:16)
I'm a little confuse of your explanation, may I do the logic;
1. God is spirit, right?
2. The father and Jesus are the same in the state of being spirit. Right?
3. As God is spirit,
3. Therefore they are the same in the state of being God as God is spirit.
They are not in the "same state of being God." God and Jesus are both Spirits but that doesn't make them both God.
That's like saying that the President is human and Capbook is human, therefore Capbook is the President. But Capbook is not the President. Neither is Jesus God. Still confused?
Your example is not from the Bible.

It is this way;
1. God is Spirit
2. As Jesus is Spirit, therefore He is God.

Is it not your belief that Jesus upon resurrection become a spirit?
And may I know if you can address this question;
What happen to Jesus' body when He goes to heaven?
The angels are spirits. Are they also God?
Never was the angels called in the form of God. (Phil 2:6)
Are they God to you?

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Capbook wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 12:51 pm
onewithhim wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 10:38 am
Capbook wrote: Sat Nov 30, 2024 2:02 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2024 3:32 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2024 1:38 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sun Nov 17, 2024 5:09 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 5:10 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2024 5:28 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2024 8:37 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2024 6:03 pm
Jesus drank the cup. He did not pursue his own will. No, my son and I are not the same. I am his mother and he could never have the position that I have as his mother. We are the same as human beings, the fact that we are flesh and blood. Jesus and his Father are both spirit Persons but that is the only way they are the same. The Father is always the head of everything, including Jesus Christ. "...The head of the Christ is God." (I Corinth. 11:3)
Yes, the Father is the head and higher position than Jesus but they are one in the state of being God. That is why Jesus is being called Son of God.
Same with you and your son, one and the same in the state of humanity.
And you son can be called son of man/woman or human.
If the Father is the head of Christ and higher in position, that clearly shows that Christ is not God. He is the Son of God. Why do you insist that God is also His Son? Jesus and his Father are both spirit Persons but that is the only way they are the same, just as my son and I are both flesh and blood but that is the only way he and I are the same.
No, I do not mean that the Father is also the Son. They are different person one in the state of being God.
What do you mean that Jesus and the Father are both spirit Persons? Is Jesus also a spirit to you?
What I bring more emphasis here is;
We are one and the same in the state of being human.
And the Father and Jesus are one and the same in the state of being God.
No....rather in the state of being spirits. God is a spirit (John 4:24) and Jesus returned to heaven with a spirit body just like his Father and the angels. He dwells in unapproachable light in heaven, that no man has seen nor can see. (I Timothy 6:16)
I'm a little confuse of your explanation, may I do the logic;
1. God is spirit, right?
2. The father and Jesus are the same in the state of being spirit. Right?
3. As God is spirit,
3. Therefore they are the same in the state of being God as God is spirit.
They are not in the "same state of being God." God and Jesus are both Spirits but that doesn't make them both God.
That's like saying that the President is human and Capbook is human, therefore Capbook is the President. But Capbook is not the President. Neither is Jesus God. Still confused?
Your example is not from the Bible.

It is this way;
1. God is Spirit
2. As Jesus is Spirit, therefore He is God.

Is it not your belief that Jesus upon resurrection become a spirit?
And may I know if you can address this question;
What happen to Jesus' body when He goes to heaven?
The angels are spirits. Are they also God?
Never was the angels called in the form of God. (Phil 2:6)
Are they God to you?
You said that because Jesus is a spirit like his Father that he is God. The angels are spirits also. Does being a spirit person make them also God?

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onewithhim wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 2:24 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 12:51 pm
onewithhim wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 10:38 am
Capbook wrote: Sat Nov 30, 2024 2:02 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2024 3:32 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2024 1:38 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sun Nov 17, 2024 5:09 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 5:10 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2024 5:28 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2024 8:37 pm

Yes, the Father is the head and higher position than Jesus but they are one in the state of being God. That is why Jesus is being called Son of God.
Same with you and your son, one and the same in the state of humanity.
And you son can be called son of man/woman or human.
If the Father is the head of Christ and higher in position, that clearly shows that Christ is not God. He is the Son of God. Why do you insist that God is also His Son? Jesus and his Father are both spirit Persons but that is the only way they are the same, just as my son and I are both flesh and blood but that is the only way he and I are the same.
No, I do not mean that the Father is also the Son. They are different person one in the state of being God.
What do you mean that Jesus and the Father are both spirit Persons? Is Jesus also a spirit to you?
What I bring more emphasis here is;
We are one and the same in the state of being human.
And the Father and Jesus are one and the same in the state of being God.
No....rather in the state of being spirits. God is a spirit (John 4:24) and Jesus returned to heaven with a spirit body just like his Father and the angels. He dwells in unapproachable light in heaven, that no man has seen nor can see. (I Timothy 6:16)
I'm a little confuse of your explanation, may I do the logic;
1. God is spirit, right?
2. The father and Jesus are the same in the state of being spirit. Right?
3. As God is spirit,
3. Therefore they are the same in the state of being God as God is spirit.
They are not in the "same state of being God." God and Jesus are both Spirits but that doesn't make them both God.
That's like saying that the President is human and Capbook is human, therefore Capbook is the President. But Capbook is not the President. Neither is Jesus God. Still confused?
Your example is not from the Bible.

It is this way;
1. God is Spirit
2. As Jesus is Spirit, therefore He is God.

Is it not your belief that Jesus upon resurrection become a spirit?
And may I know if you can address this question;
What happen to Jesus' body when He goes to heaven?
The angels are spirits. Are they also God?
Never was the angels called in the form of God. (Phil 2:6)
Are they God to you?
You said that because Jesus is a spirit like his Father that he is God. The angels are spirits also. Does being a spirit person make them also God?
Are the angels called in the form of God?

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Capbook wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 2:33 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 2:24 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 12:51 pm
onewithhim wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 10:38 am
Capbook wrote: Sat Nov 30, 2024 2:02 pm
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If the Father is the head of Christ and higher in position, that clearly shows that Christ is not God. He is the Son of God. Why do you insist that God is also His Son? Jesus and his Father are both spirit Persons but that is the only way they are the same, just as my son and I are both flesh and blood but that is the only way he and I are the same.
No, I do not mean that the Father is also the Son. They are different person one in the state of being God.
What do you mean that Jesus and the Father are both spirit Persons? Is Jesus also a spirit to you?
What I bring more emphasis here is;
We are one and the same in the state of being human.
And the Father and Jesus are one and the same in the state of being God.
No....rather in the state of being spirits. God is a spirit (John 4:24) and Jesus returned to heaven with a spirit body just like his Father and the angels. He dwells in unapproachable light in heaven, that no man has seen nor can see. (I Timothy 6:16)
I'm a little confuse of your explanation, may I do the logic;
1. God is spirit, right?
2. The father and Jesus are the same in the state of being spirit. Right?
3. As God is spirit,
3. Therefore they are the same in the state of being God as God is spirit.
They are not in the "same state of being God." God and Jesus are both Spirits but that doesn't make them both God.
That's like saying that the President is human and Capbook is human, therefore Capbook is the President. But Capbook is not the President. Neither is Jesus God. Still confused?
Your example is not from the Bible.

It is this way;
1. God is Spirit
2. As Jesus is Spirit, therefore He is God.

Is it not your belief that Jesus upon resurrection become a spirit?
And may I know if you can address this question;
What happen to Jesus' body when He goes to heaven?
The angels are spirits. Are they also God?
Never was the angels called in the form of God. (Phil 2:6)
Are they God to you?
You said that because Jesus is a spirit like his Father that he is God. The angels are spirits also. Does being a spirit person make them also God?
Are the angels called in the form of God?
Yes. The "form of God" is being a spirit, just as God is.

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Re: Book Of Life ( Who Writes The Names)

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onewithhim wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 2:57 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 2:33 pm
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Capbook wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 12:51 pm
onewithhim wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 10:38 am
Capbook wrote: Sat Nov 30, 2024 2:02 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2024 3:32 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2024 1:38 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sun Nov 17, 2024 5:09 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 5:10 pm

No, I do not mean that the Father is also the Son. They are different person one in the state of being God.
What do you mean that Jesus and the Father are both spirit Persons? Is Jesus also a spirit to you?
What I bring more emphasis here is;
We are one and the same in the state of being human.
And the Father and Jesus are one and the same in the state of being God.
No....rather in the state of being spirits. God is a spirit (John 4:24) and Jesus returned to heaven with a spirit body just like his Father and the angels. He dwells in unapproachable light in heaven, that no man has seen nor can see. (I Timothy 6:16)
I'm a little confuse of your explanation, may I do the logic;
1. God is spirit, right?
2. The father and Jesus are the same in the state of being spirit. Right?
3. As God is spirit,
3. Therefore they are the same in the state of being God as God is spirit.
They are not in the "same state of being God." God and Jesus are both Spirits but that doesn't make them both God.
That's like saying that the President is human and Capbook is human, therefore Capbook is the President. But Capbook is not the President. Neither is Jesus God. Still confused?
Your example is not from the Bible.

It is this way;
1. God is Spirit
2. As Jesus is Spirit, therefore He is God.

Is it not your belief that Jesus upon resurrection become a spirit?
And may I know if you can address this question;
What happen to Jesus' body when He goes to heaven?
The angels are spirits. Are they also God?
Never was the angels called in the form of God. (Phil 2:6)
Are they God to you?
You said that because Jesus is a spirit like his Father that he is God. The angels are spirits also. Does being a spirit person make them also God?
Are the angels called in the form of God?
Yes. The "form of God" is being a spirit, just as God is.
I mean angels.
And what verse?

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Re: Book Of Life ( Who Writes The Names)

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Capbook wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 2:59 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 2:57 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 2:33 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 2:24 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 12:51 pm
onewithhim wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 10:38 am
Capbook wrote: Sat Nov 30, 2024 2:02 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2024 3:32 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2024 1:38 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sun Nov 17, 2024 5:09 pm
No....rather in the state of being spirits. God is a spirit (John 4:24) and Jesus returned to heaven with a spirit body just like his Father and the angels. He dwells in unapproachable light in heaven, that no man has seen nor can see. (I Timothy 6:16)
I'm a little confuse of your explanation, may I do the logic;
1. God is spirit, right?
2. The father and Jesus are the same in the state of being spirit. Right?
3. As God is spirit,
3. Therefore they are the same in the state of being God as God is spirit.
They are not in the "same state of being God." God and Jesus are both Spirits but that doesn't make them both God.
That's like saying that the President is human and Capbook is human, therefore Capbook is the President. But Capbook is not the President. Neither is Jesus God. Still confused?
Your example is not from the Bible.

It is this way;
1. God is Spirit
2. As Jesus is Spirit, therefore He is God.

Is it not your belief that Jesus upon resurrection become a spirit?
And may I know if you can address this question;
What happen to Jesus' body when He goes to heaven?
The angels are spirits. Are they also God?
Never was the angels called in the form of God. (Phil 2:6)
Are they God to you?
You said that because Jesus is a spirit like his Father that he is God. The angels are spirits also. Does being a spirit person make them also God?
Are the angels called in the form of God?
Yes. The "form of God" is being a spirit, just as God is.
I mean angels.
And what verse?
I told you. Angels are spirits just like God. God is a Spirit (John 4:24). His angels are spirits. The angels are in the form of God. So just because they are spirits, does that make them God? You said that because Jesus is a spirit he is God. The angels are spirits. Does that make them God?

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