Is Jesus good? Mark 10:8

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Is Jesus good? Mark 10:8

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The Rich and the Kingdom of God
17 As Jesus started on his way, a man ran up to him and fell on his knees before him. “Good teacher,” he asked, “what must I do to inherit eternal life?”

18 “Why do you call me good?” Jesus answered. “No one is good—except God alone. 19 You know the commandments: ‘You shall not murder, you shall not commit adultery, you shall not steal, you shall not give false testimony, you shall not defraud, honor your father and mother.’[d]”

20 “Teacher,” he declared, “all these I have kept since I was a boy.”

21 Jesus looked at him and loved him. “One thing you lack,” he said. “Go, sell everything you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.”

22 At this the man’s face fell. He went away sad, because he had great wealth.

23 Jesus looked around and said to his disciples, “How hard it is for the rich to enter the kingdom of God!”

24 The disciples were amazed at his words. But Jesus said again, “Children, how hard it is[e] to enter the kingdom of God! 25 It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.”

26 The disciples were even more amazed, and said to each other, “Who then can be saved?”

27 Jesus looked at them and said, “With man this is impossible, but not with God; all things are possible with God.”
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Proverbs 18:17 The one who states his case first seems right, until the other comes and examines him.

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Re: Is Jesus good? Mark 10:8

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Jesus tells only God is good and Jesus also says God is greater than him, therefore I think, by what is said in the bible, Jesus doesn't think he is good. I think he is better than everyone else than God.

Didn't you mean Jesus is more than good? You describe Him better than.

One of the most frequently used irregular adjectives is "good." Its comparative form is "better," and the superlative form is "best." This irregularity is often encountered when comparing qualities, characteristics, or performance.

Examples:
John is a good singer, but Mary is better.
https://www.usingenglish.com/articles/a ... s%20better.

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Re: Is Jesus good? Mark 10:8

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So do you think Jesus is good?
Proverbs 18:17 The one who states his case first seems right, until the other comes and examines him.

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Re: Is Jesus good? Mark 10:8

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Capbook wrote: Sat Sep 28, 2024 7:09 am [Replying to 1213 in post #2]

Jesus tells only God is good and Jesus also says God is greater than him, therefore I think, by what is said in the bible, Jesus doesn't think he is good. I think he is better than everyone else than God.

Didn't you mean Jesus is more than good? You describe Him better than.

One of the most frequently used irregular adjectives is "good." Its comparative form is "better," and the superlative form is "best." This irregularity is often encountered when comparing qualities, characteristics, or performance.

Examples:
John is a good singer, but Mary is better.
https://www.usingenglish.com/articles/a ... s%20better.
Thanks, nice example. I meant more like, people are not good, but Jesus is better than other people. Better doesn't necessary mean something is good, it can also mean something is not as bad as something.

And I think the reason why Jesus says only God is good is that he said he speaks what God had given him to speak. And he also said he can't on his own do the things. This means Jesus appeared good, but the goodness was because of God, not because of Jesus himself, and that is why only God is truly good.

...The words that I tell you, I speak not from myself; but the Father who lives in me does his works. Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me; or else believe me for the very works’ sake.
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I can of myself do nothing. As I hear, I judge, and my judgment is righteous; because I don’t seek my own will, but the will of my Father who sent me.
John 5:30

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So according to you is Jesus not good?
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Wootah wrote: Sat Sep 28, 2024 8:51 am [Replying to Capbook in post #11]

So do you think Jesus is good?
Yes, all the time.

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And I think the reason why Jesus says only God is good is that he said he speaks what God had given him to speak. And he also said he can't on his own do the things. This means Jesus appeared good, but the goodness was because of God, not because of Jesus himself, and that is why only God is truly good.
For me, the goodness of Jesus is because Jesus is God Himself, a separate person from the Father.

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Wootah wrote: Sun Sep 29, 2024 2:29 am [Replying to 1213 in post #13]

So according to you is Jesus not good?
How could I call him good, when he says he is not? I believe what Jesus says and it means he is not himself good. But, I think in this case, he is not absolutely good, because what he does is by God's help. However, I think he is relatively good and better than other men.

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Capbook wrote: Sun Sep 29, 2024 4:24 am ...Jesus is God Himself, a separate person from the Father.
Sorry, I think it is illogical to say Jesus is the God and then that he is not the God.

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1213 wrote: Mon Sep 30, 2024 1:33 am
Capbook wrote: Sun Sep 29, 2024 4:24 am ...Jesus is God Himself, a separate person from the Father.
Sorry, I think it is illogical to say Jesus is the God and then that he is not the God.
That is to say that Jesus is God (theos), and not the Father (YHWH). They are not the same person.

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Re: Is Jesus good? Mark 10:8

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1213 wrote: Mon Sep 30, 2024 1:32 am
Wootah wrote: Sun Sep 29, 2024 2:29 am [Replying to 1213 in post #13]

So according to you is Jesus not good?
How could I call him good, when he says he is not? I believe what Jesus says and it means he is not himself good. But, I think in this case, he is not absolutely good, because what he does is by God's help. However, I think he is relatively good and better than other men.
How can the work of a not-good person on the cross pay for sins?
Proverbs 18:17 The one who states his case first seems right, until the other comes and examines him.

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