SABBATH...

Exploring the details of Christianity

Moderator: Moderators

Post Reply
Capbook
Guru
Posts: 2113
Joined: Sat May 04, 2024 7:12 am
Has thanked: 41 times
Been thanked: 60 times

SABBATH...

Post #1

Post by Capbook »

Is the Lord's Sabbath in the OT still for God's people in the NT?

Luk 23:56 And they returned, and prepared spices and ointments; and rested the sabbath day according to the commandment

User avatar
JehovahsWitness
Savant
Posts: 22891
Joined: Wed Sep 29, 2010 6:03 am
Has thanked: 900 times
Been thanked: 1339 times
Contact:

Re: SABBATH...

Post #141

Post by JehovahsWitness »

1213 wrote: Sun Aug 18, 2024 1:50 am
JehovahsWitness wrote: Fri Aug 16, 2024 12:31 pm God still keeps what? Did you have a scripture in mind?
Yet for all that, when they are in the land of their enemies, I will not reject them, neither will I abhor them, to destroy them utterly, and to break my covenant with them; for I am Yahweh their God; but I will for their sake remember the covenant of their ancestors, whom I brought forth out of the land of Egypt in the sight of the nations, that I might be their God. I am Yahweh.
Lev. 26:44-45
Did you not see my post on the question of God breaking his covenant ?
Did God BREAK his covenant with his people?
viewtopic.php?p=1154668#p1154668
Last edited by JehovahsWitness on Sun Aug 18, 2024 4:37 am, edited 1 time in total.
INDEX: More bible based ANSWERS
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 81#p826681


"For if we live, we live to Jehovah, and if we die, we die to Jehovah. So both if we live and if we die, we belong to Jehovah" -
Romans 14:8

Capbook
Guru
Posts: 2113
Joined: Sat May 04, 2024 7:12 am
Has thanked: 41 times
Been thanked: 60 times

Re: SABBATH...

Post #142

Post by Capbook »

JehovahsWitness wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 8:04 am
Capbook wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 7:58 amµ

Heb 4:9,10
9 There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.
10 For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.
KJV

NT:4520
sabbatismo/$, ou=, o(<END GREEK> sabbatismos sabbath observance; sabbath rest
(from Exegetical Dictionary of the New Testament © 1990 by William B. Eerdmans Publishing Company. All rights reserved.)
Yes, Christians "rest" from worldly desires and dedicate themselves to God and spiritual matters not just one a week but every day.



FURTHER READING Must Christians keep a Sabbath? (scriptures included)
https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/q ... n-sabbath/


RELATED POSTS

Did the apostle Paul observed the Sabbath as a Christian?
viewtopic.php?p=1153393#p1153393


To read more please go to other posts related to ...

THE MOSAIC LAW, SABBATH OBSERVANCE and ...RANSOM
The seventh day Sabbath was sanctified, blessed and God rested on that day, separate from other non-sanctified days.
It is not any other day, God called it the Sabbath of the Lord thy God.

Gen 2:2-3
2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.
3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.
KJV

Heb 4:4,9,10
9 There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.
10 For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.
4 For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works.
KJV

User avatar
JehovahsWitness
Savant
Posts: 22891
Joined: Wed Sep 29, 2010 6:03 am
Has thanked: 900 times
Been thanked: 1339 times
Contact:

Re: SABBATH...

Post #143

Post by JehovahsWitness »

Capbook wrote: Sun Aug 18, 2024 4:34 am

The seventh day Sabbath was sanctified, blessed and God rested on that day, separate from other non-sanctified days.
1. God has his own Sabbath true. Are you God? - read Isaiah 55:8
2. God has his own Sabbath true. But does he work on his Sabbath. - read John 5:17
3. God has his own Sabbath true. But does is occurr for him every 7 days? - read Heb 3:18, 19
INDEX: More bible based ANSWERS
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 81#p826681


"For if we live, we live to Jehovah, and if we die, we die to Jehovah. So both if we live and if we die, we belong to Jehovah" -
Romans 14:8

Capbook
Guru
Posts: 2113
Joined: Sat May 04, 2024 7:12 am
Has thanked: 41 times
Been thanked: 60 times

Re: SABBATH...

Post #144

Post by Capbook »

JehovahsWitness wrote: Sun Aug 18, 2024 4:52 am
Capbook wrote: Sun Aug 18, 2024 4:34 am

The seventh day Sabbath was sanctified, blessed and God rested on that day, separate from other non-sanctified days.
1. God has his own Sabbath true. Are you God? - read Isaiah 55:8
2. God has his own Sabbath true. But does he work on his Sabbath. - read John 5:17
3. God has his own Sabbath true. But does is occurr for him every 7 days? - read Heb 3:18, 19
1. God has his own Sabbath true. Are you God? That is for the people of God. Heb 4:9
2. God has his own Sabbath true. But does he work on his Sabbath. Redemptive work. Luke 4:16-18
3. God has his own Sabbath true. But does is occurr for him every 7 days? Yes, Heb 4:9,10

User avatar
JehovahsWitness
Savant
Posts: 22891
Joined: Wed Sep 29, 2010 6:03 am
Has thanked: 900 times
Been thanked: 1339 times
Contact:

Re: SABBATH...

Post #145

Post by JehovahsWitness »

Capbook wrote: Sun Aug 18, 2024 5:13 amThat is for the people of God. Heb 4:9


HEBREWS 4:4-6

in one place he has said of the seventh day as follows: “[And God rested on the seventh day from all his works,” and here again he says: “They will not enter into my rest.” Therefore, since it remains for some to enter into it


1. Does Heb 4:9 say the Mosaic Sabbath law remains or that Gods Sabbath REST remains?
2. God has his own Sabbath REST true. But does he work on his Sabbath? What does Jesus say? read John 5:17
3. God has his own Sabbath REST true. But does is occurr for him every 7 days? When did that rest began and had it finished thousand of years later when the Israelites existed as a people ? read Hebrews 3:18, 19
Last edited by JehovahsWitness on Sun Aug 18, 2024 5:35 am, edited 1 time in total.
INDEX: More bible based ANSWERS
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 81#p826681


"For if we live, we live to Jehovah, and if we die, we die to Jehovah. So both if we live and if we die, we belong to Jehovah" -
Romans 14:8

Capbook
Guru
Posts: 2113
Joined: Sat May 04, 2024 7:12 am
Has thanked: 41 times
Been thanked: 60 times

Re: SABBATH...

Post #146

Post by Capbook »

JehovahsWitness wrote: Sun Aug 18, 2024 5:24 am
Capbook wrote: Sun Aug 18, 2024 5:13 amThat is for the people of God. Heb 4:9



1. Does Heb 4:9 say the Mosaic Sabbath law remains or that Gods Sabbath REST remains?
2. God has his own Sabbath REST true. But does he work on his Sabbath? What does Jesus say? read John 5:17
3. God has his own Sabbath REST true. But does is occurr for him every 7 days? When did that rest began and had it finished thousand of years later when the Israelites existed as a people ? read Hebrews 3:18, 19


1. It's not Mosaic law, it is God's finger written law. Heb 4:4,9,10.
2. Already answered.
3. It began in Gen 2:2,3 and till new heaven and new earth Isa 66:23.

User avatar
JehovahsWitness
Savant
Posts: 22891
Joined: Wed Sep 29, 2010 6:03 am
Has thanked: 900 times
Been thanked: 1339 times
Contact:

Re: SABBATH...

Post #147

Post by JehovahsWitness »

Capbook wrote: Sun Aug 18, 2024 5:32 am
3. It began in Gen 2:2,3 and till new heaven and new earth Isa 66:23.
1. God's Sabbath "REST" is different from the weekly Sabbath which was part of a law given to humans ( Heb 4:9 compare Mark 2:27 )
2. Jesus affirmed that God continues to work during his REST period ( John 5:17)
3. GOD'S rest began 6,000 years ago and the same rest day will continue until his purpose is achieve. Gods Rest day then is not every 7 days, its ONE "DAY" which is thousands of years long. (Hebrews 3:18, 19)



RELATED POSTS


What is a Covenant?
viewtopic.php?p=1014803#p1014803

What is "The New Covenant"?
viewtopic.php?p=776505#p776505
Last edited by JehovahsWitness on Mon Aug 19, 2024 5:51 pm, edited 2 times in total.
INDEX: More bible based ANSWERS
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 81#p826681


"For if we live, we live to Jehovah, and if we die, we die to Jehovah. So both if we live and if we die, we belong to Jehovah" -
Romans 14:8

Capbook
Guru
Posts: 2113
Joined: Sat May 04, 2024 7:12 am
Has thanked: 41 times
Been thanked: 60 times

Re: SABBATH...

Post #148

Post by Capbook »

JehovahsWitness wrote: Sun Aug 18, 2024 5:39 am
Capbook wrote: Sun Aug 18, 2024 5:32 am
3. It began in Gen 2:2,3 and till new heaven and new earth Isa 66:23.
1. God's Sabbath "REST" is different from the weekly Sabbath which was part of a law given to humans ( Heb 4:9)
2. Jesus affirmed that God continues to work during his REST period ( John 5:17)
3. GOD'S rest began 6,000 years ago and the same rest day will continue until his purpose is achieve. Gods Rest day then is not every 7 days, its ONE "DAY" which is thousands of years long. (Hebrews 3:18, 19)
Another symbol?
The Bible is clear, the Sabbath is always on the seventh day.

Ex 20:11
11 For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
KJV

User avatar
JehovahsWitness
Savant
Posts: 22891
Joined: Wed Sep 29, 2010 6:03 am
Has thanked: 900 times
Been thanked: 1339 times
Contact:

Re: SABBATH...

Post #149

Post by JehovahsWitness »

Capbook wrote: Sun Aug 18, 2024 5:48 am
Another symbol?
No just explaining the meaning of scripture.

1. God's Sabbath "REST" is different from the weekly Sabbath which was part of a law given to humans ( Heb 4:9 compare Mark 2:27 )
2. Jesus affirmed that God continues to work during HIS (God's ) "rest" period ( see John 5:17)
3. GOD'S rest began 6,000 years ago and the same rest day will continue until his purpose is achieve. Gods Rest day then is not every 7 literal days, its ONE "DAY" which is thousands of years long. (Hebrews 3:18, 19)
Last edited by JehovahsWitness on Sun Aug 18, 2024 5:54 am, edited 1 time in total.
INDEX: More bible based ANSWERS
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 81#p826681


"For if we live, we live to Jehovah, and if we die, we die to Jehovah. So both if we live and if we die, we belong to Jehovah" -
Romans 14:8

Capbook
Guru
Posts: 2113
Joined: Sat May 04, 2024 7:12 am
Has thanked: 41 times
Been thanked: 60 times

Re: SABBATH...

Post #150

Post by Capbook »

JehovahsWitness wrote: Sun Aug 18, 2024 5:50 am
Capbook wrote: Sun Aug 18, 2024 5:48 am
Another symbol?
No just explaining the meaning of scripture.

1. God's Sabbath "REST" is different from the weekly Sabbath which was part of a law given to humans ( Heb 4:9 compare Mark 2:27 )
2. Jesus affirmed that God continues to work during HIS (God's ) "rest" period ( see John 5:17)
3. GOD'S rest began 6,000 years ago and the same rest day will continue until his purpose is achieve. Gods Rest day then is not every 7 days, its ONE "DAY" which is thousands of years long. (Hebrews 3:18, 19)
Then what is the meaning of this verse?

Ex 20:11
11 For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
KJV

Post Reply