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Jesus is God - is Jesus the bridegroom?

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Blog post by someone: https://alexiscarucci.com/2022/05/18/je ... ridegroom/

Some relevant NT passages snipped from the blog post
Jesus referred to Himself as the bridegroom when He talked about why His disciples didn’t fast (Mark 2:18 – 20). Likewise, John, the Baptist, presented himself as the bridegroom’s friend and declared that the bride belongs to the bridegroom (John 3:29). The bride of Christ or the church consists of the entire body of believers throughout the ages, all who have received salvation by grace through faith. The New Jerusalem is also referred to as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband and alludes to Christ as the bridegroom (Revelation 21:2, 9 – 10).
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https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?s ... ersion=NIV
For your Maker is your husband—
the Lord Almighty is his name—
the Holy One of Israel is your Redeemer;
he is called the God of all the earth.
I think the union between man and God that was restablished in Jesus is quite clear. When we put our faith in Jesus we are accepting that what Jesus did has united God and man. It took God to unite what man tore apart.

So, Jesus is God or is Jesus some rando that calls himself the bridegroom?
Proverbs 18:17 The one who states his case first seems right, until the other comes and examines him.

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JehovahsWitness wrote: Thu Jul 18, 2024 11:46 am
onewithhim wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2024 10:45 am. BTW, Jehovah is not husband to literal Israel any more since they as a whole rejected Jesus as the Messiah.
That is a good point; Jehovah is no longer "married to the fleshly nation or Israel. And also the wedding of that lamb has yet to take place. Its a future event that will happen just before Armageddon.


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Do that mean that Isaiah 54:5 you posted is not what you mean before?

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Capbook wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2024 3:59 am
JehovahsWitness wrote: Thu Jul 18, 2024 11:46 am
onewithhim wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2024 10:45 am. BTW, Jehovah is not husband to literal Israel any more since they as a whole rejected Jesus as the Messiah.
That is a good point; Jehovah is no longer "married to the fleshly nation or Israel. And also the wedding of that lamb has yet to take place. Its a future event that will happen just before Armageddon.


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Do that mean that Isaiah 54:5 you posted is not what you mean before?
I have fully explained the meaning of my post referencing Isaiah 54:5 . I do not believe I am obliged to repeat myself.




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JehovahsWitness wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2024 4:07 am
Capbook wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2024 3:59 am
JehovahsWitness wrote: Thu Jul 18, 2024 11:46 am
onewithhim wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2024 10:45 am. BTW, Jehovah is not husband to literal Israel any more since they as a whole rejected Jesus as the Messiah.
That is a good point; Jehovah is no longer "married to the fleshly nation or Israel. And also the wedding of that lamb has yet to take place. Its a future event that will happen just before Armageddon.


JW
Do that mean that Isaiah 54:5 you posted is not what you mean before?
I have fully explained the meaning of my post referencing Isaiah 54:5 . I do not believe I am obliged to repeat myself.




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Yes, it is Jesus as the bridegroom. Wootah is correct and Jesus is God.

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Capbook wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2024 4:11 am..Wootah is correct and Jesus is God.

Wootah is incorrect and Jesus is not God.
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JehovahsWitness wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2024 4:14 am
Capbook wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2024 4:11 am..Wootah is correct and Jesus is God.

Wootah is incorrect and Jesus is not God.
Then can you cite a Bible verse that says "Jesus is not God"

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Capbook wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2024 4:27 am
JehovahsWitness wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2024 4:14 am
Capbook wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2024 4:11 am..Wootah is correct and Jesus is God.

Wootah is incorrect and Jesus is not God.
Then can you cite a Bible verse that says "Jesus is not God"

JOHN 10:35
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JehovahsWitness wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2024 4:37 am
Capbook wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2024 4:27 am
JehovahsWitness wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2024 4:14 am
Capbook wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2024 4:11 am..Wootah is correct and Jesus is God.

Wootah is incorrect and Jesus is not God.
Then can you cite a Bible verse that says "Jesus is not God"

JOHN 10:35
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Capbook wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2024 4:51 am Then can you cite a Bible verse that says "Jesus is not God"

JOHN 10:35, 36
We are not allowed to reply by Bible verse only without explanation.


Explanation : John 10:35, 36 proves that Jesus is not Almighty God.
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onewithhim wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2024 10:01 am [Replying to Wootah in post #1]

Jesus is not God, and he didn't make it up that he is the bridegroom. Jehovah is called the husband of Israel, God Almighty, and Jesus is the bridegroom of all anointed Christians because he is the means by which Jehovah could conclude an agreement with spiritual Israelites and the bride of Christ. "Like Father, like Son" is the catch phrase here. Jesus reflected the truths concerning his Father who is God Almighty. (Colossians 1:15)
Imagine being called the bridegroom and then getting cucked on your wedding day by another man marrying your bride, not just another man your but father..

You are turning God into a Jerry Springer episode.
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I've never seen JW so unwilling to explain. I think we have got him.
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