Question for everyone. The lake of fire referred to by the traditional Christian/ Catholic/ Fundi churches.
Is it literally a lake of fire? It is figurative? Other?
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Post #1It is a first class human tragedy that people of the earth who claim to believe in the message of Jesus, whom they describe as the Prince of Peace, show little of that belief in actual practice.
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Re: Lake of fire
Post #101One has to recognise the difference between the literal and the figurative in order to have a correct understanding of scripture.
Scripture does speak of figuartively of the "death /killing "of out sinful nature /old personality meaning Christians must be dominated by godly goals and principles to please God and struggle against canal (fleshly) desires.
This is not to be confused with literal death which is the cessation of all life, (the literal non-existence of a person). This literal death requires a resurrection (recreation) by God which is not controlled or directed by the individual himself (nobody can bring themselves back from the dead).
The "process" of stripping of ones old personality or being baptised into "death" is metaphoric language to explain the steps to spiritual enlightenment which can lead to eternal life.The incorrigibly wicked , face permanently literal death (destruction) with no prospect to future life. This is what Jesus was speaking about when he contrasted this with being saved in John 3:16. There is nowhere in scripture that incorporates [ literal ]destruction of a person by God as a part of salvation.
To determine whether a passage is speaking of literal death (cessation of existance) or figurative death (change of spiritual circumstances ) thoughtful consideration should be given to context.
Hope that helps,
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Re: Lake of fire
Post #108I don't think it could've been clearer than what is in post #104. (Sorry, it wasn't 103.) See if you can see what I'm saying from that post. You posted that I said something that you actually said, more than once, and likewise you posted that you said what I actually said. This happened twice I think. Just to iron out any bumps in the discussion.
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Post #109I see it now. I'll try to edit it. Thank You.onewithhim wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 8:17 pm
I don't think it could've been clearer than what is in post #104. (Sorry, it wasn't 103.) See if you can see what I'm saying from that post. You posted that I said something that you actually said, more than once, and likewise you posted that you said what I actually said. This happened twice I think. Just to iron out any bumps in the discussion.
