Is the holy spirit a living being?

[kjw47]

Is the holy spirit a living being with equality to the Father and son? Lets look at bible facts.

1) The Father has a name-YHWH(Jehovah) the son has a name Jesus-Holy spirit-0
2) The Father seen on a throne, the son seen on a throne-Holy spirit-0
3)The Father shares certain things with the son-Holy spirit-0
4)Many very important passages in NT where only the Father and son are spoken of-holy spirit-2
The most important one being John 17:3--This means eternal life, their knowing you( Father) THE ONLY TRUE GOD and the one whom you sent forth Christ Jesus. Holy spirit-0

No is the answer i see. How about you?

The new Catholic encyclopedia 1967 Vol XIII Page 575-- The majority of NT texts reveal Gods spirit as something not someone.

[MissKate13]

[Replying to 2timothy316 in post #20]

You wrote, “ "And Jehovah God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul." - Gen 2:7 (ASV)
No mention of man being made from a spirit.
So, no I do not have a spirit.”


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You must be the only person in the entire human race who doesn’t have a spirit.

I wonder if you will admit that you made a mistake after reading what the word of God says?

“then the dust will return to the earth as it was, and the spirit will return to God who gave it. (Ecclesiastes 12:7)

“While they were stoning him, Stephen appealed, “Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.” (Acts 7:59)

“For who among men knows the thoughts of a man except the spirit of the man which is in him? Even so the thoughts of God no one knows except the Spirit of God.” (1 Corinthians 2:11)

“Now may the God of peace Himself sanctify you entirely; and may your spirit and soul and body be preserved complete, without blame at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.” (1 Thessalonians 5:23)

[PolytheistWitch]

The holy spirit is sent to do things for the God of Abraham like an angel would, but it's not referred to as an angel with a spirit. Spirit is a word usually associated with a dead person. I have no idea why it was elevated to be part of the Trinity when it doesn't seem to even be equal with angels. Unless it's the force the God of Abraham uses to create things which means to God of Abraham is not a creator. He uses another beings power to do that.

[2timothy316]

[Replying to 2timothy316 in post #20]

You wrote, “ "And Jehovah God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul." - Gen 2:7 (ASV)
No mention of man being made from a spirit.
So, no I do not have a spirit.”


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You must be the only person in the entire human race who doesn’t have a spirit.

Do you believe what is written at Genesis 2:7? That we are made of dust?
I do.

“then the dust will return to the earth as it was, and the spirit will return to God who gave it. (Ecclesiastes 12:7)

This is in harmony with Gen 2:7. The breath of life, that God gives man returns to the One who gave it. The Hebrew word ru'ach can also be used for the word wind or air. Like in Ex 10:13 and Zec 2:6 the word ru'ach is translated wind. So, which way should we view Ecc 12:7? As there is a spirit person that is in us or the air that fills our lungs and makes us live that leaves us? Let's let the same writer of Ecclesiastes tell us.

"For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing at all." Ecc 9:5

Clearly Solomon wasn't saying that a person continues to live after death in some spirit form, but just simply that the breath from God that makes us live returns to God.

“While they were stoning him, Stephen appealed, “Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.” (Acts 7:59)

"Then, kneeling down, he cried out with a strong voice: “LORD, do not charge this sin against them.” And after saying this, he fell asleep in death." (Acts 7:60)
So, did some spirit creature did fly to Heaven? No. It says, 'he fell asleep in death'. Being asleep is to be unconscious. Now we have even more harmony with Genesis 2:7 and Ecclesiastes 9:5. That Stephen's breath of life left him and he died, conscious of nothing afterward.

“For who among men knows the thoughts of a man except the spirit of the man which is in him? Even so the thoughts of God no one knows except the Spirit of God.” (1 Corinthians 2:11)

This is the other use of the word spirit. A person's mental inclination. We even use it today. When we say, 'that person has a kind spirit'. We are not talking about a spiritual body but their attitude and mental inclination. How do we know that 1 Corinthians 2:11 is referring to a person's thoughts and attitude? Because the word thoughts is in the scripture.
The scripture continues, "Now we received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit that is from God." 1 Cor 2:12. This must be talking about where we get our attitude and mental inclination. Otherwise are you saying a person can get their 'spirit being' from the world?

“Now may the God of peace Himself sanctify you entirely; and may your spirit and soul and body be preserved complete, without blame at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.” (1 Thessalonians 5:23)

Here we have a separation of spirit and soul. Certainly it's not saying may your 'spirit and spirit' be preserved complete. Why the separation? Because they are not the same thing. Here spirit is the same as in 1 Cor 2:11 that a person's attitude and mental inclination be preserved complete.

So, yes I have read all your scriptures and added more scripture to it by adding context. Context is so important and better than cherry picking prooftext don't you think?

[MissKate13]

[Replying to PolytheistWitch in post #22]

The Holy Spirit is not referred to as an IT in Scripture.

[Miles]

[Replying to PolytheistWitch in post #22]

The Holy Spirit is not referred to as an IT in Scripture.

Mark 13:11
Even when you are arrested and put on trial, don’t worry about what you will say. Say whatever God tells you at the time. It will not really be you speaking. It will be the Holy Spirit.

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[PolytheistWitch]

It means gender neutral. Nothing more.

[kjw47]

[Replying to kjw47 in post #15]

You wrote, “ No one has a spirit being living within them.
Facts show the HS is not a living being.
The Hebrew word for soul=breath. breath of life. Its what makes a mortal alive, not a spirit being within.”

My response: Your own NWT contradicts you. True followers of Christ are a temple for a LIVING God. The bodies of true followers of Christ are temples of the Holy Spirit.

The Holy Spirit is God. He is alive and dwells in the hearts of the true followers of Christ.

2 Corinthians 6:16
“And what agreement does God’s temple have with idols?For we are a temple of a living God; just as God said: “I will reside among them and walk among them, and I will be their God, and they will be my people.”

1 Corinthians 6:19. “Do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit within you, which you have from God?”

Many might think they get holy spirit, but only the righteous do. That is FEW according to Jesus.

[MissKate13]

[Replying to kjw47 in post #27]

You wrote: “Many might think they get holy spirit, but only the righteous do. That is FEW according to Jesus.”

Me: That’s a topic for another thread and has nothing to do with your comment about the Holy Spirit not being a living being. I just proved that the Holy Spirit is LIVING and dwells in true followers of Christ, but you refused to acknowledge that point. It was you who said the Holy Spirit is not a living being. You cannot prove your statement with the Scriptures. Instead the Scriptures proved you wrong.

[MissKate13]

[Replying to Miles in post #25]

Excellent point! The burden of proof is on kjw47 that the Holy Spirit is not a living being. Everything in Scripture about the Holy Spirit points to a living being.

I challenge kjw47 to prove what he claims about the Holy Spirit, who just happens to be the Spirit of God and of Christ.

[MissKate13]

[Replying to Miles in post #25]

Mark 13:11
Even when you are arrested and put on trial, don’t worry about what you will say. Say whatever God tells you at the time. It will not really be you speaking. It will be the Holy Spirit.

Even when you, Miles, are arrested and put on trial, don’t worry about what you will say. Say whatever your lawyer tells you at the time. It will not really be you, Miles, speaking. It will be your lawyer.

Is the lawyer in the above sentence an IT? The sentence structure is exactly the same