Is the holy spirit a living being?

[kjw47]

Is the holy spirit a living being with equality to the Father and son? Lets look at bible facts.

1) The Father has a name-YHWH(Jehovah) the son has a name Jesus-Holy spirit-0
2) The Father seen on a throne, the son seen on a throne-Holy spirit-0
3)The Father shares certain things with the son-Holy spirit-0
4)Many very important passages in NT where only the Father and son are spoken of-holy spirit-2
The most important one being John 17:3--This means eternal life, their knowing you( Father) THE ONLY TRUE GOD and the one whom you sent forth Christ Jesus. Holy spirit-0

No is the answer i see. How about you?

The new Catholic encyclopedia 1967 Vol XIII Page 575-- The majority of NT texts reveal Gods spirit as something not someone.

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Is the holy spirit a living being with equality to the Father and son? Lets look at bible facts.

1) The Father has a name-YHWH(Jehovah) the son has a name Jesus-Holy spirit-0
2) The Father seen on a throne, the son seen on a throne-Holy spirit-0
3)The Father shares certain things with the son-Holy spirit-0
4)Many very important passages in NT where only the Father and son are spoken of-holy spirit-2
The most important one being John 17:3--This means eternal life, their knowing you( Father) THE ONLY TRUE GOD and the one whom you sent forth Christ Jesus. Holy spirit-0

No is the answer i see. How about you?

By that standard I am not a living being?

I believe what the Bible tells, Holy Spirit is the spirit of truth, that guides person to truth.

However when he, the Spirit of truth, has come, he will guide you into all truth, for he will not speak from himself; but whatever he hears, he will speak. He will declare to you things that are coming.
John 16:13

[sridatta]

Is the holy spirit a living being with equality to the Father and son? Lets look at bible facts.

1) The Father has a name-YHWH(Jehovah) the son has a name Jesus-Holy spirit-0
2) The Father seen on a throne, the son seen on a throne-Holy spirit-0
3)The Father shares certain things with the son-Holy spirit-0
4)Many very important passages in NT where only the Father and son are spoken of-holy spirit-2
The most important one being John 17:3--This means eternal life, their knowing you( Father) THE ONLY TRUE GOD and the one whom you sent forth Christ Jesus. Holy spirit-0

No is the answer i see. How about you?

The new Catholic encyclopedia 1967 Vol XIII Page 575-- The majority of NT texts reveal Gods spirit as something not someone.

Devotees are confused about who is Father , Son and Holy Spirit. Today all their spiritual doubts will be clarified for ever.
God comes to this world by entering a deserving devotee existing on this earth called as SON OF GOD to become human incarnation of God. The original God is unimaginable, and invisible. Such God enters an energetic form in the upper world and is called FATHER OF HEAVEN. This Father of heaven enters to a deserving devotee existing on the earth to become SON OF GOD or HUMAN INCARNATION OF GOD.

Thus Jesus was such SON OF GOD to whom FATHER OF HEAVEN ENTERED for the mission of divine knowledge propagation in this world. Whoever has seen alive Jesus that time had seen Father of heaven only, this is the only way for human beings here, when any human being meeting present SON OF GOD he had seen the Father of heaven. This was the reason why Jesus told to Philip that when he had seen Jesus he had verily seen Father of heaven only.

When the same God enters formless energy it become Holy Spirit.
Thus:
Unimaginable absolute God = Father of Heaven = Son of God (God-in-Flesh or Human incarnation) = Holy Spirit

Let us analyse in detail these divine knowledge.


The energetic incarnation in which unimaginable God merged is meant by the word ‘Father’. Son means the human being component selected by Father in which the Father gets merged and such son is called as human incarnation or Son of God. Since the unimaginable God exists in both Father and Son, both are one and the same because anything done by Father and Son must be the same due to the same common unimaginable God.

Hence, there is no difference between Father and Son since both are the incarnations of unimaginable God only. Both are like the two hands doing the same work and two legs walking in the same direction. Jesus is the human incarnation like cotton shirt and the divine Father of heaven is the energetic incarnation like silk shirt of the same person called unimaginable God. Jesus says that the Son of God (Himself) will judge the souls and not the Father.

The meaning of this statement is that though Father and Son are one and the same, you have to call the mediated unimaginable God by the name of the Son of God only since the Son of God (human incarnation) is relevant to this humanity and not the Father (energetic incarnation), who is relevant to the energetic souls present in the upper world only. When a person staying in the state of Tamilnadu says ‘our chief minister’, he is only referring the chief minister of the state of Tamilanadu only and not the chief minister of Orissa though both are the same chief ministers only.

When you are staying in a state, the chief minister of that state is only relevant to you to approach for any grievance and not the chief minister of other state. This statement reveals only the stress of relevance of human incarnation for the humanity. The human being believing the human incarnation is always blessed by the absolute God, who exists in that very human incarnation only and such devotee crosses over from death to life.

Here death means the state in which God is forgotten (Ref.: Sanat Sujitiyam of Mahabharata) and life means the state in which God is always remembered. It is crossing over the worldly bonds to reach bond with God. The believer in the human incarnation participates in the propagation of the knowledge of human incarnation and such a divine servant will not be judged in the upper world since his/her file will be kept inactive in cold storage. Other ordinary souls are judged and dispatched to the concerned upper worlds like heaven and hell as per the judicial inquiry of the file of the soul.

In the Human Incarnation, there are two components: (1) the God-component (Father) and (2) the human being-component(Son of God). Before His arrest, as Jesus was praying to God, it was the human being-component that prayed to God, requesting Him to avoid the crucifixion, if possible. In this situation, the human being-component had separated from God. Later on during the trial, God had merged with the human being-component again and, as a result, the human being-component kept silent.
Even while praying to God before the arrest, the separated human being-component agreed that if God wished for the crucifixion to occur, God’s wish should be fulfilled. Even though the human being-component exhibited its normal nature of getting tense and feeling agony, being a perfect devotee of God, the human being-component gave its full consent to God for the crucifixion (“Let thy will be done”). The cruel crucifixion of Jesus was a divine programme meant to reform the cruel hearts of the public and fill their hearts with love and kindness.

[kjw47]

Is the holy spirit a living being with equality to the Father and son? Lets look at bible facts.

1) The Father has a name-YHWH(Jehovah) the son has a name Jesus-Holy spirit-0
2) The Father seen on a throne, the son seen on a throne-Holy spirit-0
3)The Father shares certain things with the son-Holy spirit-0
4)Many very important passages in NT where only the Father and son are spoken of-holy spirit-2
The most important one being John 17:3--This means eternal life, their knowing you( Father) THE ONLY TRUE GOD and the one whom you sent forth Christ Jesus. Holy spirit-0

No is the answer i see. How about you?

By that standard I am not a living being?

I believe what the Bible tells, Holy Spirit is the spirit of truth, that guides person to truth.

However when he, the Spirit of truth, has come, he will guide you into all truth, for he will not speak from himself; but whatever he hears, he will speak. He will declare to you things that are coming.
John 16:13

A few things are spoken of a being a living being in the bible but arent. Every living being has a personal name.

[kjw47]

Is the holy spirit a living being with equality to the Father and son? Lets look at bible facts.

1) The Father has a name-YHWH(Jehovah) the son has a name Jesus-Holy spirit-0
2) The Father seen on a throne, the son seen on a throne-Holy spirit-0
3)The Father shares certain things with the son-Holy spirit-0
4)Many very important passages in NT where only the Father and son are spoken of-holy spirit-2
The most important one being John 17:3--This means eternal life, their knowing you( Father) THE ONLY TRUE GOD and the one whom you sent forth Christ Jesus. Holy spirit-0

No is the answer i see. How about you?

The new Catholic encyclopedia 1967 Vol XIII Page 575-- The majority of NT texts reveal Gods spirit as something not someone.

Devotees are confused about who is Father , Son and Holy Spirit. Today all their spiritual doubts will be clarified for ever.
God comes to this world by entering a deserving devotee existing on this earth called as SON OF GOD to become human incarnation of God. The original God is unimaginable, and invisible. Such God enters an energetic form in the upper world and is called FATHER OF HEAVEN. This Father of heaven enters to a deserving devotee existing on the earth to become SON OF GOD or HUMAN INCARNATION OF GOD.

Thus Jesus was such SON OF GOD to whom FATHER OF HEAVEN ENTERED for the mission of divine knowledge propagation in this world. Whoever has seen alive Jesus that time had seen Father of heaven only, this is the only way for human beings here, when any human being meeting present SON OF GOD he had seen the Father of heaven. This was the reason why Jesus told to Philip that when he had seen Jesus he had verily seen Father of heaven only.

When the same God enters formless energy it become Holy Spirit.
Thus:
Unimaginable absolute God = Father of Heaven = Son of God (God-in-Flesh or Human incarnation) = Holy Spirit

Let us analyse in detail these divine knowledge.


The energetic incarnation in which unimaginable God merged is meant by the word ‘Father’. Son means the human being component selected by Father in which the Father gets merged and such son is called as human incarnation or Son of God. Since the unimaginable God exists in both Father and Son, both are one and the same because anything done by Father and Son must be the same due to the same common unimaginable God.

Hence, there is no difference between Father and Son since both are the incarnations of unimaginable God only. Both are like the two hands doing the same work and two legs walking in the same direction. Jesus is the human incarnation like cotton shirt and the divine Father of heaven is the energetic incarnation like silk shirt of the same person called unimaginable God. Jesus says that the Son of God (Himself) will judge the souls and not the Father.

The meaning of this statement is that though Father and Son are one and the same, you have to call the mediated unimaginable God by the name of the Son of God only since the Son of God (human incarnation) is relevant to this humanity and not the Father (energetic incarnation), who is relevant to the energetic souls present in the upper world only. When a person staying in the state of Tamilnadu says ‘our chief minister’, he is only referring the chief minister of the state of Tamilanadu only and not the chief minister of Orissa though both are the same chief ministers only.

When you are staying in a state, the chief minister of that state is only relevant to you to approach for any grievance and not the chief minister of other state. This statement reveals only the stress of relevance of human incarnation for the humanity. The human being believing the human incarnation is always blessed by the absolute God, who exists in that very human incarnation only and such devotee crosses over from death to life.

Here death means the state in which God is forgotten (Ref.: Sanat Sujitiyam of Mahabharata) and life means the state in which God is always remembered. It is crossing over the worldly bonds to reach bond with God. The believer in the human incarnation participates in the propagation of the knowledge of human incarnation and such a divine servant will not be judged in the upper world since his/her file will be kept inactive in cold storage. Other ordinary souls are judged and dispatched to the concerned upper worlds like heaven and hell as per the judicial inquiry of the file of the soul.

In the Human Incarnation, there are two components: (1) the God-component (Father) and (2) the human being-component(Son of God). Before His arrest, as Jesus was praying to God, it was the human being-component that prayed to God, requesting Him to avoid the crucifixion, if possible. In this situation, the human being-component had separated from God. Later on during the trial, God had merged with the human being-component again and, as a result, the human being-component kept silent.
Even while praying to God before the arrest, the separated human being-component agreed that if God wished for the crucifixion to occur, God’s wish should be fulfilled. Even though the human being-component exhibited its normal nature of getting tense and feeling agony, being a perfect devotee of God, the human being-component gave its full consent to God for the crucifixion (“Let thy will be done”). The cruel crucifixion of Jesus was a divine programme meant to reform the cruel hearts of the public and fill their hearts with love and kindness.

I am not confused whatsoever. The errors translated in by Catholicism to make it seem like Jesus is God is what has confused many.

[sridatta]

I am not confused whatsoever. The errors translated in by Catholicism to make it seem like Jesus is God is what has confused many.

God is unimaginable and beyond space. Such God cannot be even imagined. But when such God comes to this world in human form the we human beings can see Him, touch Him and co-live with Him. God comes for our sake only. Since God is impartial He comes to this world in every human generation to preach and uplift us like Rama, Krishna, Buddha, Jesus, Muhammad, Sai Baba, Shankara etc.

[2timothy316]

I am not confused whatsoever. The errors translated in by Catholicism to make it seem like Jesus is God is what has confused many.

God is unimaginable and beyond space. Such God cannot be even imagined. But when such God comes to this world in human form the we human beings can see Him, touch Him and co-live with Him. God comes for our sake only. Since God is impartial He comes to this world in every human generation to preach and uplift us like Rama, Krishna, Buddha, Jesus, Muhammad, Sai Baba, Shankara etc.

This is completely unscriptural.

“Thou shalt have no other gods before me. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image . . . Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them.” (Ex. 20:3-5, KJ)

"You are my witnesses,” declares Jehovah, “Yes, my servant whom I have chosen, So that you may know and have faith in me And understand that I am the same One. Before me no God was formed, And after me there has been none." Is 43:10

Rama, Krishna, Budda, Jesus, Muhammand, Sai Baba, Shankara, etc. do not exist and they are not Jehovah. These are not many gods but false god made by Satan, "And no wonder, for Satan himself keeps disguising himself as an angel of light." - 2 Cor 11:14

[sridatta]

This is completely unscriptural.

“Thou shalt have no other gods before me. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image . . . Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them.” (Ex. 20:3-5, KJ)

"You are my witnesses,” declares Jehovah, “Yes, my servant whom I have chosen, So that you may know and have faith in me And understand that I am the same One. Before me no God was formed, And after me there has been none." Is 43:10

Rama, Krishna, Budda, Jesus, Muhammand, Sai Baba, Shankara, etc. do not exist and they are not Jehovah.

Jehovah only came as Rama, Krishna, Budda, Jesus, Muhammand, Sai Baba, Shankara, etc. We can see Jehovah when we die and goes to the upperworld. But we can see the same Jehovah when He comes here in human form known as Human incarnation of God or Son of God or God in flesh. This is the only way we can see Jehovah here on this earth. No other way than this way for us human beings. We can touch Jehovah , see Jehovah and live with Jehovah when He comes here in human form. You have to conquer your ego and jealosy towards other human beings then only you can recognise Jehovah when He comes here in human form. Since Jehovah is an impartial God, He comes to this world in every human generation to avoid partiality to only one generation alone.

[2timothy316]

[Replying to sridatta in post #8]

Still not scriptural, your reply is just your dogma and is just an opinion and not proven as truth. Back yourself up with scripture.

[kjw47]

I am not confused whatsoever. The errors translated in by Catholicism to make it seem like Jesus is God is what has confused many.

God is unimaginable and beyond space. Such God cannot be even imagined. But when such God comes to this world in human form the we human beings can see Him, touch Him and co-live with Him. God comes for our sake only. Since God is impartial He comes to this world in every human generation to preach and uplift us like Rama, Krishna, Buddha, Jesus, Muhammad, Sai Baba, Shankara etc.

The bible teaches God sent someone, thus he did not come down in human form. The only true living God there ever was = YHWH(Jehovah)