Are you a creationist?

[Wootah]

Hi all,

The thing about creation is that we do it every moment.

- I look at a lump of matter and make it into my wife every day of my marriage.

- Apparently, there is a bunch of atoms that I recognise every day how to get back to and I call it my home.

The day you are not a creationist, you likely have lost your mind.

Are you a creationist? Thoughts?

[OneWay]

[Replying to OneWay in post #102]

Yes but go deeper. Or not. Somewhere in our brain all the data we collate that something is a tree we called it a tree.

Why does Adam get given the role of naming the animals?

Where has it been established, as a matter of truth, that Adam was given the role to name anythingI?

Extra points will be awarded to anyone who can offer confirmation that Adam even existed.

Adam existed in the book of Genesis.

Tinkerbell existed in the book of Peter Pan.
So what?

Are you asking me for guidance?

[TRANSPONDER]

[Replying to OneWay in post #102]

Yes but go deeper. Or not. Somewhere in our brain all the data we collate that something is a tree we called it a tree.

Why does Adam get given the role of naming the animals?

Where has it been established, as a matter of truth, that Adam was given the role to name anythingI?

Extra points will be awarded to anyone who can offer confirmation that Adam even existed.

Adam existed in the book of Genesis.

Tinkerbell existed in the book of Peter Pan.
So what?

Are you asking me for guidance?

We are asking you for good reasons why we should believe the statement you posted.

Another hint; wriggling and evasion will only make you and your case and indeed, your religion,look bad, not us.

[OneWay]

[Replying to OneWay in post #102]

Yes but go deeper. Or not. Somewhere in our brain all the data we collate that something is a tree we called it a tree.

Why does Adam get given the role of naming the animals?

Where has it been established, as a matter of truth, that Adam was given the role to name anythingI?

Extra points will be awarded to anyone who can offer confirmation that Adam even existed.

Adam existed in the book of Genesis.

Tinkerbell existed in the book of Peter Pan.
So what?

Are you asking me for guidance?

We are asking you for good reasons why we should believe the statement you posted.

Another hint; wriggling and evasion will only make you and your case and indeed, your religion,look bad, not us.

You are not going to believe me even if I tell you the truth.
Therefore I have no good reasons for you to believe me.

They asked to give them confirmation that Adam existed,
to which I gave it to them.

Anything else would cost extra.

And if you do not believe Adam existed in the book of Genesis,
then go read it and you will see...Adam indeed existed.
You will find his name in it several times.

[brunumb]

You are not going to believe me even if I tell you the truth.
Therefore I have no good reasons for you to believe me.

Until you can demonstrate that Genesis is literally true, then everything you say is just an unsupported opinion and we have no good reason to believe what you claim.

[OneWay]

You are not going to believe me even if I tell you the truth.
Therefore I have no good reasons for you to believe me.

Until you can demonstrate that Genesis is literally true, then everything you say is just an unsupported opinion and we have no good reason to believe what you claim.

I am tempted to refer to you as a moron, but I overcame the temptation
and I will not.

It does not matter if the book of Genesis is real or not real,
the fact of the matter is that the man, God created named Adam, exist in the book of Genesis.

Now he may not exist anywhere else, but you can find him right there in the book of Genesis.

[Wootah]

Please don't derail the thread. So long as no one is using Adam authoritatively the usage is OK. So I am told.

I used to think that meant if someone wrote 'because the Bible says blah then you have to accept blah' then that was reportable in this forum.

I personally never thought it meant that people would come to a debating Christianity forum and not debate Christianity.

I think we need a mod clarification.

[brunumb]

It does not matter if the book of Genesis is real or not real,
the fact of the matter is that the man, God created named Adam, exist in the book of Genesis.

In that case, why should anyone care?

[TRANSPONDER]

[Replying to OneWay in post #102]

Yes but go deeper. Or not. Somewhere in our brain all the data we collate that something is a tree we called it a tree.

Why does Adam get given the role of naming the animals?

Where has it been established, as a matter of truth, that Adam was given the role to name anythingI?

Extra points will be awarded to anyone who can offer confirmation that Adam even existed.

Adam existed in the book of Genesis.

Tinkerbell existed in the book of Peter Pan.
So what?

Are you asking me for guidance?

We are asking you for good reasons why we should believe the statement you posted.

Another hint; wriggling and evasion will only make you and your case and indeed, your religion,look bad, not us.

You are not going to believe me even if I tell you the truth.
Therefore I have no good reasons for you to believe me.

They asked to give them confirmation that Adam existed,
to which I gave it to them.

Anything else would cost extra.

And if you do not believe Adam existed in the book of Genesis,
then go read it and you will see...Adam indeed existed.
You will find his name in it several times.

Whether I believe you or not is unimportant. It is rarely about convincing the other side in these debates (they have to convince themselves) but making a good case for the lurkers and browsers, who are the meat and potatoes of forums like this.

What this comes down to is whether you can make a good case for the Bible, Genesis or Adam. If you can't, then your assertions of Belief are also irrelevant. I have to accept denial all the time in such debates. The other side will deny evidence of history, science and even the Bible, ifit doesn't suit them (it is Holy Writ if it looks like it does). But it os the peanut gallery and the popcorn seats that is in my mind when i post, as well as testing and refining the arguments I have learned, and having fun as well .

Bottom line, if you make no case, you appear to have no case, and you lose, even if you think you win.

You are not going to believe me even if I tell you the truth.
Therefore I have no good reasons for you to believe me.

Until you can demonstrate that Genesis is literally true, then everything you say is just an unsupported opinion and we have no good reason to believe what you claim.

yup.

You are not going to believe me even if I tell you the truth.
Therefore I have no good reasons for you to believe me.

Until you can demonstrate that Genesis is literally true, then everything you say is just an unsupported opinion and we have no good reason to believe what you claim.

I am tempted to refer to you as a moron, but I overcame the temptation
and I will not.

It does not matter if the book of Genesis is real or not real,
the fact of the matter is that the man, God created named Adam, exist in the book of Genesis.

Now he may not exist anywhere else, but you can find him right there in the book of Genesis.

I wouldn't toss insults about if I were you; it is against ToS. And nobody here is moronic, even if they the do try to argue that Adam exists in a Mythological story exists,even if he never existed.

Please don't derail the thread. So long as no one is using Adam authoritatively the usage is OK. So I am told.

I used to think that meant if someone wrote 'because the Bible says blah then you have to accept blah' then that was reportable in this forum.

I personally never thought it meant that people would come to a debating Christianity forum and not debate Christianity.

I think we need a mod clarification.

I think we do.I have no idea what you are trying to say here. Bottom line - however we use the term 'Adam'and whatever it says about Adam in the Bible (I have a pet theory that the messianic spirit was the spirit of Adam thus 'Son of man', but I could be wrong) Is Genesis reporting what actually happened or is it just a myth?

[JoeyKnothead]

[Replying to OneWay in post #102]

Yes but go deeper. Or not. Somewhere in our brain all the data we collate that something is a tree we called it a tree.

Why does Adam get given the role of naming the animals?

Where has it been established, as a matter of truth, that Adam was given the role to name anythingI?

Extra points will be awarded to anyone who can offer confirmation that Adam even existed.

Adam existed in the book of Genesis.

Where has it been established the book of Genesis is an accurate record?

[OneWay]

It does not matter if the book of Genesis is real or not real,
the fact of the matter is that the man, God created named Adam, exist in the book of Genesis.

In that case, why should anyone care?

Why should anyone care about anything?