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Are you a creationist?

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Hi all,

The thing about creation is that we do it every moment.

- I look at a lump of matter and make it into my wife every day of my marriage.

- Apparently, there is a bunch of atoms that I recognise every day how to get back to and I call it my home.

The day you are not a creationist, you likely have lost your mind.

Are you a creationist? Thoughts?
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Re: Are you a creationist?

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OneWay wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 9:59 pm
TRANSPONDER wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 9:25 pm
OneWay wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 9:11 pm
TRANSPONDER wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 8:55 pm
OneWay wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 6:32 pm
brunumb wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 5:22 pm
OneWay wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 3:29 am
brunumb wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 3:06 am
OneWay wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 2:09 am
brunumb wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 2:03 am

Perhaps it would be of some value if you actually answered the question.
Cut and past any question you say I have not answered.
Question in red. Response in blue. The response does not answer the question.
You must excuse me if I reach the conclusion that we are being trolled.
I did answer the question.
I asked you why should anyone care? Now you answer the question.
You did not answer my question. You simply asked me another question. Is English not your first language? Or are you simply trolling us and wasting our time? Going back through all your posts it seems you are not here to contribute anything.
My oh my how did you get to be so wise. I am overwhelmed by it.
Time for a translation. Theist to English "I can't or won't answer your question, so I will do some sarcastic sneering". In fact I tend to see this "Oh you are so very clever" type of sneer as a grudging realisation that the other fellow is in fact the wiser.

If Adam is just a character in a mythological tale, why indeed would it matter? If you can't or won't, it means he wins. As I recall,YOUR question was answered (refuted) but you asked it again below the answer .(1)

Your argument seems to be going down the tube and taking the religious credit with it.

(1) or maybe not. You tried a red herring of asking who decides the accuracy of Genesis. Short answer, Science refutes it. But as the Mod says, there is a thread on it. But the point you ignore is that IF (as you implied hypothetically) Genesis was a mythological tale, that Adam was a character means nothing and (as exhaustively refuted) imagining a character though an act of human imaginative creation is not a validation of claimed divine creation, nor does it make everyone creationists, which has a very specific meaning.

On every level, evidence, logic and even intellectual integrity, you have lost ground on this one.
Are there people in your life, who have to rely on your decisions and judgements and have to endure
whatever they bring upon them, other than just you?
As it happens, yes, so what does that have to do with anything? I could express concern that there may be people who are affected by the judgements of someone who reasons as poorly as you do, but i fail to see the relevance.
In life, there are many times that you will have to step out in faith because
there is no way to measure the accuracy of the evidence that is presented before you.
That is the relevancy that you fail to see, and the reason being you are a failure at it is
because you have a carnal mind and spirit and cannot forsake and let go of the things
that enslave you to only that to which you can see and comprehend in your carnal mind
and spirit. Thus you are always contained within the limitations of the boundaries
where there is nothing but death and hell at the end of it all.

If that is to far above your understanding
then please forgive me.
:D Chum,there is nothing to forgive, because you haven't caused me any harm nor even miff. I reckon I understand you very well, though I could always be wrong, because I admit human limitations while you, through Faith, cannot admit yours.

I even have a hypothesis about the things that you think enable you to comprehend things beyond the boundaries of the things that things limit us to so we cannot see the things beyond, and many other things. But I accept 'we don't know' but you don't. You fail to produce anything valid as evidence of this, and that is where you fail. If that offends you, then it is not personal.

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Re: Are you a creationist?

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JoeyKnothead wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 12:58 am
OneWay wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 12:43 am
JoeyKnothead wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 12:39 am
OneWay wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 11:59 pm Are there people in your life, who have to rely on your decisions and judgements and have to endure whatever they bring upon them, other than just you?
Not gonna work on me. I'm confined to my property by legal / psychiatric order, and the pretty thing has control of the finances.

My point about the collection plate was your preaching about...
...because you have a carnal mind and spirit and cannot forsake and let go of the things
that enslave you to only that to which you can see and comprehend in your carnal mind
and spirit. Thus you are always contained within the limitations of the boundaries
where there is nothing but death and hell at the end of it all.
You're just another theist who thinks preaching is debate.
I am not even a Christian and I do not believe
everything written in the bible is the truth.

So your theory about me is all incorrect.
Where in my comment did I call you a Christian?

Your hypothesis is incorrect.
I did not say you said I was a Christian. I am not a theist.
I am never incorrect.

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Re: Are you a creationist?

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TRANSPONDER wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 1:43 am
OneWay wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 9:59 pm
TRANSPONDER wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 9:25 pm
OneWay wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 9:11 pm
TRANSPONDER wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 8:55 pm
OneWay wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 6:32 pm
brunumb wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 5:22 pm
OneWay wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 3:29 am
brunumb wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 3:06 am
OneWay wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 2:09 am Cut and past any question you say I have not answered.
Question in red. Response in blue. The response does not answer the question.
You must excuse me if I reach the conclusion that we are being trolled.
I did answer the question.
I asked you why should anyone care? Now you answer the question.
You did not answer my question. You simply asked me another question. Is English not your first language? Or are you simply trolling us and wasting our time? Going back through all your posts it seems you are not here to contribute anything.
My oh my how did you get to be so wise. I am overwhelmed by it.
Time for a translation. Theist to English "I can't or won't answer your question, so I will do some sarcastic sneering". In fact I tend to see this "Oh you are so very clever" type of sneer as a grudging realisation that the other fellow is in fact the wiser.

If Adam is just a character in a mythological tale, why indeed would it matter? If you can't or won't, it means he wins. As I recall,YOUR question was answered (refuted) but you asked it again below the answer .(1)

Your argument seems to be going down the tube and taking the religious credit with it.

(1) or maybe not. You tried a red herring of asking who decides the accuracy of Genesis. Short answer, Science refutes it. But as the Mod says, there is a thread on it. But the point you ignore is that IF (as you implied hypothetically) Genesis was a mythological tale, that Adam was a character means nothing and (as exhaustively refuted) imagining a character though an act of human imaginative creation is not a validation of claimed divine creation, nor does it make everyone creationists, which has a very specific meaning.

On every level, evidence, logic and even intellectual integrity, you have lost ground on this one.
Are there people in your life, who have to rely on your decisions and judgements and have to endure
whatever they bring upon them, other than just you?
As it happens, yes, so what does that have to do with anything? I could express concern that there may be people who are affected by the judgements of someone who reasons as poorly as you do, but i fail to see the relevance.
In life, there are many times that you will have to step out in faith because
there is no way to measure the accuracy of the evidence that is presented before you.
That is the relevancy that you fail to see, and the reason being you are a failure at it is
because you have a carnal mind and spirit and cannot forsake and let go of the things
that enslave you to only that to which you can see and comprehend in your carnal mind
and spirit. Thus you are always contained within the limitations of the boundaries
where there is nothing but death and hell at the end of it all.

If that is to far above your understanding
then please forgive me.
:D Chum,there is nothing to forgive, because you haven't caused me any harm nor even miff. I reckon I understand you very well, though I could always be wrong, because I admit human limitations while you, through Faith, cannot admit yours.

I even have a hypothesis about the things that you think enable you to comprehend things beyond the boundaries of the things that things limit us to so we cannot see the things beyond, and many other things. But I accept 'we don't know' but you don't. You fail to produce anything valid as evidence of this, and that is where you fail. If that offends you, then it is not personal.

"I'm not trying to rob you, I'm trying to help you." (Gandalf) and

"I think this food would do you good, if you could just try it, but perhaps you can't even try yet." (Frodo).
lol

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Re: Are you a creationist?

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JoeyKnothead wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 11:06 pm
OneWay wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 9:59 pm
TRANSPONDER wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 9:25 pm
OneWay wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 9:11 pm
TRANSPONDER wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 8:55 pm
OneWay wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 6:32 pm
brunumb wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 5:22 pm
OneWay wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 3:29 am
brunumb wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 3:06 am
OneWay wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 2:09 am Cut and past any question you say I have not answered.
Question in red. Response in blue. The response does not answer the question.
You must excuse me if I reach the conclusion that we are being trolled.
I did answer the question.
I asked you why should anyone care? Now you answer the question.
You did not answer my question. You simply asked me another question. Is English not your first language? Or are you simply trolling us and wasting our time? Going back through all your posts it seems you are not here to contribute anything.
My oh my how did you get to be so wise. I am overwhelmed by it.
Time for a translation. Theist to English "I can't or won't answer your question, so I will do some sarcastic sneering". In fact I tend to see this "Oh you are so very clever" type of sneer as a grudging realisation that the other fellow is in fact the wiser.

If Adam is just a character in a mythological tale, why indeed would it matter? If you can't or won't, it means he wins. As I recall,YOUR question was answered (refuted) but you asked it again below the answer .(1)

Your argument seems to be going down the tube and taking the religious credit with it.

(1) or maybe not. You tried a red herring of asking who decides the accuracy of Genesis. Short answer, Science refutes it. But as the Mod says, there is a thread on it. But the point you ignore is that IF (as you implied hypothetically) Genesis was a mythological tale, that Adam was a character means nothing and (as exhaustively refuted) imagining a character though an act of human imaginative creation is not a validation of claimed divine creation, nor does it make everyone creationists, which has a very specific meaning.

On every level, evidence, logic and even intellectual integrity, you have lost ground on this one.
Are there people in your life, who have to rely on your decisions and judgements and have to endure
whatever they bring upon them, other than just you?
As it happens, yes, so what does that have to do with anything? I could express concern that there may be people who are affected by the judgements of someone who reasons as poorly as you do, but i fail to see the relevance.
In life, there are many times that you will have to step out in faith because
there is no way to measure the accuracy of the evidence that is presented before you.
That is the relevancy that you fail to see, and the reason being you are a failure at it is
because you have a carnal mind and spirit and cannot forsake and let go of the things
that enslave you to only that to which you can see and comprehend in your carnal mind
and spirit. Thus you are always contained within the limitations of the boundaries
where there is nothing but death and hell at the end of it all.

If that is to far above your understanding
then please forgive me.
Can anyone here break a one? I gotta put some money in the plate.
Thw towering hubris masquerading as piety is surely worth a dollar.

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Re: Are you a creationist?

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TRANSPONDER wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 2:05 am
JoeyKnothead wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 11:06 pm
OneWay wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 9:59 pm
TRANSPONDER wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 9:25 pm
OneWay wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 9:11 pm
TRANSPONDER wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 8:55 pm
OneWay wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 6:32 pm
brunumb wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 5:22 pm
OneWay wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 3:29 am
brunumb wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 3:06 am

Question in red. Response in blue. The response does not answer the question.
You must excuse me if I reach the conclusion that we are being trolled.
I did answer the question.
I asked you why should anyone care? Now you answer the question.
You did not answer my question. You simply asked me another question. Is English not your first language? Or are you simply trolling us and wasting our time? Going back through all your posts it seems you are not here to contribute anything.
My oh my how did you get to be so wise. I am overwhelmed by it.
Time for a translation. Theist to English "I can't or won't answer your question, so I will do some sarcastic sneering". In fact I tend to see this "Oh you are so very clever" type of sneer as a grudging realisation that the other fellow is in fact the wiser.

If Adam is just a character in a mythological tale, why indeed would it matter? If you can't or won't, it means he wins. As I recall,YOUR question was answered (refuted) but you asked it again below the answer .(1)

Your argument seems to be going down the tube and taking the religious credit with it.

(1) or maybe not. You tried a red herring of asking who decides the accuracy of Genesis. Short answer, Science refutes it. But as the Mod says, there is a thread on it. But the point you ignore is that IF (as you implied hypothetically) Genesis was a mythological tale, that Adam was a character means nothing and (as exhaustively refuted) imagining a character though an act of human imaginative creation is not a validation of claimed divine creation, nor does it make everyone creationists, which has a very specific meaning.

On every level, evidence, logic and even intellectual integrity, you have lost ground on this one.
Are there people in your life, who have to rely on your decisions and judgements and have to endure
whatever they bring upon them, other than just you?
As it happens, yes, so what does that have to do with anything? I could express concern that there may be people who are affected by the judgements of someone who reasons as poorly as you do, but i fail to see the relevance.
In life, there are many times that you will have to step out in faith because
there is no way to measure the accuracy of the evidence that is presented before you.
That is the relevancy that you fail to see, and the reason being you are a failure at it is
because you have a carnal mind and spirit and cannot forsake and let go of the things
that enslave you to only that to which you can see and comprehend in your carnal mind
and spirit. Thus you are always contained within the limitations of the boundaries
where there is nothing but death and hell at the end of it all.

If that is to far above your understanding
then please forgive me.
Can anyone here break a one? I gotta put some money in the plate.
Thw towering hubris masquerading as piety is surely worth a dollar.
I got it made. My Lord is God.
I am going to live on the new earth.
My God has already created it.

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Re: Are you a creationist?

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OneWay wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 1:49 am
JoeyKnothead wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 12:58 am
OneWay wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 12:43 am
JoeyKnothead wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 12:39 am
OneWay wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 11:59 pm Are there people in your life, who have to rely on your decisions and judgements and have to endure whatever they bring upon them, other than just you?
Not gonna work on me. I'm confined to my property by legal / psychiatric order, and the pretty thing has control of the finances.

My point about the collection plate was your preaching about...
...because you have a carnal mind and spirit and cannot forsake and let go of the things
that enslave you to only that to which you can see and comprehend in your carnal mind
and spirit. Thus you are always contained within the limitations of the boundaries
where there is nothing but death and hell at the end of it all.
You're just another theist who thinks preaching is debate.
I am not even a Christian and I do not believe
everything written in the bible is the truth.

So your theory about me is all incorrect.
Where in my comment did I call you a Christian?

Your hypothesis is incorrect.
I did not say you said I was a Christian. I am not a theist.
I am never incorrect.
You just can't put truth to your theist claims.
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OneWay wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 2:30 am I got it made. My Lord is God.
I am going to live on the new earth.
My God has already created it.
Aren't you supposed to wait for the comet Hale-Bopp to come back around?
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brunumb wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 5:29 am
OneWay wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 2:30 am I got it made. My Lord is God.
I am going to live on the new earth.
My God has already created it.
Aren't you supposed to wait for the comet Hale-Bopp to come back around?
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