With the exception of the occasional "wedding cake issue" or the like, it seems that the 'Christian vs. Gay" argument has died down a lot in the USA since gay marriage has become legal.
Have Christians given up on the complaining about how bad gay people are, are Christians re-grouping, have Christians that complained about gay people gone on holiday or have Christians all of a sudden, become "OK" with gay people?
Or, perhaps, the media has found other causes to accost us with these days?
Or are there other reasons (sinister or benign)?
Where did it go?
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Post #2Bathroom police springs to mind.Youkilledkenny wrote: Or, perhaps, the media has found other causes to accost us with these days?
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Post #3You beat me to it. They are too busy hating on the transgenders now.Bust Nak wrote:Bathroom police springs to mind.Youkilledkenny wrote: Or, perhaps, the media has found other causes to accost us with these days?
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Post #4Much like it did here in New Zealand after a very short time. Basically it was just a storm in a teacup. People hate change.Youkilledkenny wrote: With the exception of the occasional "wedding cake issue" or the like, it seems that the 'Christian vs. Gay" argument has died down a lot in the USA since gay marriage has become legal.
As with New Zealand, I'm guessing people have discovered that gay marriage hasn't had any earth shattering consequences. Some gay people got married. That's all. Doesn't affect the rest of us. Life went on as usual for everyone else.
I was against it at first, but then I began to realize that it wasn't such a big deal. The institution of marriage hasn't been destroyed. It was already a big mess as it was.
People love to complain. I'm sure there's something else they're complaining about now.Youkilledkenny wrote: Have Christians given up on the complaining about how bad gay people are, are Christians re-grouping, have Christians that complained about gay people gone on holiday or have Christians all of a sudden, become "OK" with gay people?
Or, perhaps, the media has found other causes to accost us with these days?
Or are there other reasons (sinister or benign)?
Society and its morals evolve and will continue to evolve. The bible however remains the same and just requires more and more apologetics and claims of "metaphors" and "symbolism" to justify it.
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Same place most have been all along, minding their own business, hoping to be free to associate with whoever they wish. These issues generally come up as the punch line to "Two liberals walk into a . . . . and demand . . . "
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Post #6[Replying to post 4 by OnceConvinced]
What the world does is its business, and what Christians believe is their business.
Neither one should expect the other to jump to the crack of their whip, as it were.
Well then, this is something us two kiwis can agree on.I was against it at first, but then I began to realize that it wasn't such a big deal. The institution of marriage hasn't been destroyed. It was already a big mess as it was.
What the world does is its business, and what Christians believe is their business.
Neither one should expect the other to jump to the crack of their whip, as it were.
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Post #7[Replying to post 1 by Youkilledkenny]
Well as Jehovah's Witnesses we were never really part of that dialogue- we don't condemn people but stick to bible standards and educate any who care to listen as to what we believe to be bible standards.
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Post #8Give this a read. You will come to understand our faith better. What good it does to you if you just say: "They hate homosexuality."Divine Insight wrote:You beat me to it. They are too busy hating on the transgenders now.Bust Nak wrote:Bathroom police springs to mind.Youkilledkenny wrote: Or, perhaps, the media has found other causes to accost us with these days?
What do you even know? How about, instead you learn about sin. What is sin, what do they believe? And as you come to understand, you won't have so short-sighted answers.
That sounds smart. Are you willing to challenge yourself?
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Post #9How does one go about "learning about sin?" Sin is not a force in the universe. Sin has no physical property's. Sin is simply an opinion. "Learning about sin" can never be anything more than an exercise in listening to another person's opinion on just what sin is. Most of us are perfectly capable of determining right and wrong for ourselves. Others however envision themselves as sheep, incapable of knowing right from wrong without guidance. Whom they choose for a guide inevitably involves just what belief system they were indoctrinated into as a child.rosary wrote:Give this a read. You will come to understand our faith better. What good it does to you if you just say: "They hate homosexuality."Divine Insight wrote:You beat me to it. They are too busy hating on the transgenders now.Bust Nak wrote:Bathroom police springs to mind.Youkilledkenny wrote: Or, perhaps, the media has found other causes to accost us with these days?
What do you even know? How about, instead you learn about sin. What is sin, what do they believe? And as you come to understand, you won't have so short-sighted answers.
That sounds smart. Are you willing to challenge yourself?
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Post #10Presuming you are among those with that capability, does that capability exist with no guidance whatsoever? If not, how much guidance can one get before one turns into a sheep?Tired of the Nonsense wrote: Most of us are perfectly capable of determining right and wrong for ourselves. Others however envision themselves as sheep, incapable of knowing right from wrong without guidance.