Christian vs Muslim debate on any subject

[Maseehullah]

If there is any Christian who feels he is convinced that Christianity is true and that the fundamental beliefs of Christianity, such as the trinity, the incarnation, etc., are absolute truth and is willing to defend his/her beliefs in a debate with me, a Muslim, I would give such a person the benefit of the doubt to pick any subject or topic to debate. This can be any topic relating to Islam or Christianity or both.

[JehovahsWitness]

If there is any Christian who feels he is convinced that Christianity is true and that the fundamental beliefs of Christianity, such as the trinity, the incarnation, etc., are absolute truth and is willing to defend his/her beliefs in a debate with me, a Muslim, I would give such a person the benefit of the doubt to pick any subject or topic to debate. This can be any topic relating to Islam or Christianity or both.

I would like to raise the topic of the corruption of the bible. Many Muslims I have spoken to claim that the bible was corrupted and thus there was a need for a new "relelation" from God (the Koran)

#QUESTIONS:

a) According to Muslim scholars when (about which century) was the bible corrupted?
b) Prior to this 'corruption' was everything written in the bible true?
c) If there had NOT been a corruption, would there have still been a need for the Koran?

Thanks

[Lux]

If there is any Christian who feels he is convinced that Christianity is true and that the fundamental beliefs of Christianity, such as the trinity, the incarnation, etc., are absolute truth and is willing to defend his/her beliefs in a debate with me, a Muslim, I would give such a person the benefit of the doubt to pick any subject or topic to debate. This can be any topic relating to Islam or Christianity or both.

I would like to raise the topic of the corruption of the bible. Many Muslims I have spoken to claim that the bible was corrupted and thus there was a need for a new "relelation" from God (the Koran)

#QUESTIONS:

a) According to Muslim scholars when (about which century) was the bible corrupted?
b) Prior to this 'corruption' was everything written in the bible true?
c) If there had NOT been a corruption, would there have still been a need for the Koran?

Thanks

If you want to start a debate about Christianity and Islam, feel free to start a new topic in the C&A subforum, or the Non-christian religions subforum.

[JehovahsWitness]

If there is any Christian who feels he is convinced that Christianity is true and that the fundamental beliefs of Christianity, such as the trinity, the incarnation, etc., are absolute truth and is willing to defend his/her beliefs in a debate with me, a Muslim, I would give such a person the benefit of the doubt to pick any subject or topic to debate. This can be any topic relating to Islam or Christianity or both.

I would like to raise the topic of the corruption of the bible. Many Muslims I have spoken to claim that the bible was corrupted and thus there was a need for a new "relelation" from God (the Koran)

#QUESTIONS:

a) According to Muslim scholars when (about which century) was the bible corrupted?
b) Prior to this 'corruption' was everything written in the bible true?
c) If there had NOT been a corruption, would there have still been a need for the Koran?

Thanks

If you want to start a debate about Christianity and Islam, feel free to start a new topic in the C&A subforum, or the Non-christian religions subforum.

Thank you for the directive (with so many forums its a little confusing).

Just a clarification: I took this as an invitation to pose a question here (ie "click on reply to post" and post my question), may I ask, is this an invitation to go to another section or top post a question or may I reply to the underlined section of the post here? If so what may I ask that would not require opening an new thread? Any advice would be much appreciated.

Thanks again.
JW

[Lux]

Thank you for the directive (with so many forums its a little confusing).

Just a clarification: I took this as an invitation to pose a question here (ie "click on reply to post" and post my question), may I ask, is this an invitation to go to another section or top post a question or may I reply to the underlined section of the post here? If so what may I ask that would not require opening an new thread? Any advice would be much appreciated.

Thanks again.
JW

Hi JW,

What I meant is that if you want to start a debate about Christianity and Islam you should open a new thread in the Christianity and Apologetics subforum, since this subforum is just for chatting, not debating.

[JehovahsWitness]

Thank you for the directive (with so many forums its a little confusing).

Just a clarification: I took this as an invitation to pose a question here (ie "click on reply to post" and post my question), may I ask, is this an invitation to go to another section or top post a question or may I reply to the underlined section of the post here? If so what may I ask that would not require opening an new thread? Any advice would be much appreciated.

Thanks again.
JW

Hi JW,

What I meant is that if you want to start a debate about Christianity and Islam you should open a new thread in the Christianity and Apologetics subforum, since this subforum is just for chatting, not debating.

oh I think I get it now.

Thanks again.

[pasha]

From Maseehullah

Yes, we Muslims accept and believe that the teachings of Jesus (peace be upon him) was a revelation from God, but our position was that Jesus did not preach Christianity.

Well spoken

From Joshua Patrick

From the Qu'ran itself, it states the Jews and Christians both recieved revelations from Allah.

Many of Muhammad's writings, claimed Christianity and Judaism was revelations from God, I can gladly reference some if you wish, but I believe you already know this?

In the Qur'an there are many references to the Jewish and Christian Holy Books. In fact the Qur'an addresses Christians and Jews in terms of the Book: O People of the Book! (5:68 AYA).

Well spoken

Jesus was the Messiah, he came to reveal the everlasting convenant, he established the Catholic Church, that has stood for 2000+ years. This church preaches the message of Christ, it is the same church that compiled the bible, which Muslims refered to as "O People of the Book". What Jesus preached, is what the Catholic Church preaches. The same church the Apostles ( Who walked with Jesus) founded, which as Apostolic succession (Direct successors)

Truly does the CATHOLIC CHURCH today really reflect the state of the early MESSIANIC FAITH, the same faith as the Messiah had?

Muhammad, was not a prophet. He sprang from pagans. But that which he taught was in the main Catholic doctrine, albeit oversimplified

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How do you know? Were you there? Was John the Baptist a real prophet?
We can’t exclude the proof of the evidence, which followed, that GOD allowed Islam to prosper
just as once they excluded Mormons as unchristian and yet, the proof is in how they live a righteous life
Too many claimant christians have jumped to false conclusions be it within their own faiths sects
as well about the many others outside this christian calling.

Mohammed’s teaching never developed among the mass of his followers, or in his own mind, a detailed theology.

RECITE spoke the angel Gabriel,
the devil is in the detail, what is the overall TRUTH within each of these faiths????
As to detailed theology, that is where it all always goes south.



From Maseehullah

First of all, the Bible itself proves that if Jesus is the true Messiah he couldn't have died on the cross.

WHY NOT?? Did He not rise again restored to hale and glory @ the very right hand of GOD/ALLAH???
Why do you think we christians believe on Jesus????
Who intercedes for each Muslim before GOD????
We have an intercessor, a defender, which sadly Moses and Muhammad aren’t able to.
Instead their LAW-laws are used for leverage or excuse...
let me ask this, DOES GOD SEEK MARTYRS @ THEIR OWN HAND?
I do hope you appreciate where this is coming from, for many of the young Muslim Suicide
bombers are taught that they are martyrs for their faith- hence for GOD, and Islam.
Does GOD desire folks to blow themselves and others to kingdom come, or that all men come
to reason and the honor of GOD-ALLAH?

Finally this-

there are not historical witness accounts that prove Jesus died on the cross either.

There are two gospels written independent of the other, as well a latter day epistle by Luke
who recounts what the witnesses he interviewed or heard from reported.
So to me that is like JP saying, there is no proof that Muhammad, blessins be upon him, was a
real prophet of GOD.

I would remind all, that parable of the seeds, the fourth case study shows what
is possible with GOD and the first case study what is possible without ALLAH.


I confine this discussion to the first page only, thanks