The Truth of Evolution

[axeplayer]

Hello everyone. I'm not sure if this has been brought up before in the forum, so if it has, forgive me. But I was wondering if any of the evolutionists out there could answer this question for me......do you know of any truths that exist in the theory of evolution? In other words, is it purely based on speculation and the combination of completely different fossils to make it look like gradualism? Or is there actually truth to it?

[perplexed101]

[QED]

That's one very long quote perplexed101. I'm not sure what other readers are meant to do with it? It would help if you had prefaced it with some sort of explanation of what prompted you to copy it here. It seems to be a warning to theists to stay away from accepting any part of evolutionary theory, listing as it does ten dangers of contradicting the bible.

[jwu]

[jwu]

[QED]

Hello everyone. I'm not sure if this has been brought up before in the forum, so if it has, forgive me. But I was wondering if any of the evolutionists out there could answer this question for me......do you know of any truths that exist in the theory of evolution? In other words, is it purely based on speculation and the combination of completely different fossils to make it look like gradualism? Or is there actually truth to it?

I recently started a topic with the intention of delivering Proof that evolution works. The proof exists in terms of our ability to take the theory of evolution as read directly from nature and make machines that harness the principles to produce autonomous designs for us. This must be accepted as proof that the underlying principles of the theory are true.

All that is left to be argued is whether this proven mechanism accounts for the apparent design seen in organic life. I would argue that the likelihood for this is very high given that we drew our inspiration for our engineering applications from direct observations of nature in the first place -- i.e. it was not our idea but hers.

Theories are normally judged by their powers of explanation and prediction. The fact that it has been possible to turn this theory into practice compels me to see it as a good candidate for the source of apparent design in biology. The predictions made by the theory are also very evident in biology which tells me it is beyond doubt the mechanism used by nature as well.

[micatala]

Theistic evolution = matter + evolutionary factors (chance and necessity + mutation + selection + isolation + death) + very long time periods + God.

In this system God is not the omnipotent Lord of all things, whose Word has to be taken seriously by all men, but He is integrated into the evolutionary philosophy. This leads to 10 dangers for Christians.

As jwu responded point by point to the 10 dangers, I will not (at least until I have more time ).

I will point out that whether or not any of these dangers are really valid is irrelevant to the truth of evolution. Just because an idea may have possible negative consequences does not mean it is true.

I will also offer one danger of believing in a 6-day creation, in spite of overwhelming scientific evidence to the contrary. It is the same danger suffered by those who believed the Copernican System was unbiblical and antithetical to proper Christian doctrine. Namely, being absolutely insistent on a particular interpretation of scripture that subsequently proves to be false can lead to an undermining of the faith, or at least a blow to the reputation of the faith or those who believe in it.