Quranic contradictions?

[Abdullah]

None,

I challenge every person here to find any, you won't succeed.

[k-nug]

I'm not sure what makes me want to be more Muslim. Blowing myself up on a bus, or blowing myself up in a cafe, killing other Muslims. I like being alive.

Sorry, but I do have a point. Fanatical Christians can be nutty, even scary. Once in a great while you get ones blowing up clinics. Nothing, however on the scale of Muslim violence. There is nothing about the example that Muslims the world over are setting that would make me ever want to even open a Quran, much less walk into a mosque.
While 72 virgins sounds nice, I find it hard to believe that God is using sin, tempting young Muslims with lust and eternal pleasure in order to get them to commit another sin (murder/suicide) for their God. If that God is real, I want nothing to do with him.

[Ramadi]

I'm not sure what makes me want to be more Muslim. Blowing myself up on a bus, or blowing myself up in a cafe, killing other Muslims. I like being alive.

So are you saying that the conditions you are living in are the same as the ones a palestinian lives in?
They say walk a mile in one man's shoes before judging him.
Since 1948 Palestinians have been treated as subhumans under the pretext that the jews own the land.

BTW there is 1.5 Billion muslims in the world if we all blew up, well...

While 72 virgins sounds nice, I find it hard to believe that God is using sin, tempting young Muslims with lust and eternal pleasure in order to get them to commit another sin (murder/suicide) for their God. If that God is real, I want nothing to do with him.

This is a spinning
Allah(SWT) Promised martyrs( those who die in his way) hour al ayn (beutiful maidens) are creatures of the almighty that is a recompense for the believer who gave his life for the almighty. They are not to be confused with young women. The word used to describe them is "pure".

How can man make a sin AFTER the day of reckoning????
By the time a martyr will be with his 72 hour al ayn, he will have been judged.

[k-nug]

I'm not sure what makes me want to be more Muslim. Blowing myself up on a bus, or blowing myself up in a cafe, killing other Muslims. I like being alive.

So are you saying that the conditions you are living in are the same as the ones a palestinian lives in?
They say walk a mile in one man's shoes before judging him.
Since 1948 Palestinians have been treated as subhumans under the pretext that the jews own the land.

I never said the conditions I live in were the same as a Palestinian. I'm saying blowing up civilians in a cafe or a bus is wrong. Especially in the name of a God. You want the land? take it back. Stop killing innocent women and children. contrary to your probably stereotyping of me, I am not in support of Israel. And you can't use the jewish occupation as an excuse, as there are plenty of Iraqi muslims killing each other in the name of land. And they've been liberated by the U.S. What is your excuse there?

BTW there is 1.5 Billion muslims in the world if we all blew up, well...

While 72 virgins sounds nice, I find it hard to believe that God is using sin, tempting young Muslims with lust and eternal pleasure in order to get them to commit another sin (murder/suicide) for their God. If that God is real, I want nothing to do with him.

This is a spinning
Allah(SWT) Promised martyrs( those who die in his way) hour al ayn (beutiful maidens) are creatures of the almighty that is a recompense for the believer who gave his life for the almighty. They are not to be confused with young women. The word used to describe them is "pure".

How can man make a sin AFTER the day of reckoning????
By the time a martyr will be with his 72 hour al ayn, he will have been judged.

Im not sure what you mean by the last statement. According to your religion, God is commanding you to kill those who do not believe the same as you. Murder is a sin (i have to guess and say that murder is still wrong in the muslim world.) yet your God commands it when it suits his needs. He's a hypocrite. If there is a hell, which I don't think there is, surely Hitler will be sitting alongside Dahmer and all the suicide bombers the world over.

[k-nug]

I'm not sure what makes me want to be more Muslim. Blowing myself up on a bus, or blowing myself up in a cafe, killing other Muslims. I like being alive.

So are you saying that the conditions you are living in are the same as the ones a palestinian lives in?
They say walk a mile in one man's shoes before judging him.
Since 1948 Palestinians have been treated as subhumans under the pretext that the jews own the land.

I never said the conditions I live in were the same as a Palestinian. I'm saying blowing up civilians in a cafe or a bus is wrong. Especially in the name of a God. You want the land? take it back. Stop killing innocent women and children. contrary to your probably stereotyping of me, I am not in support of Israel. And you can't use the jewish occupation as an excuse, as there are plenty of Iraqi muslims killing each other in the name of land. And they've been liberated by the U.S. What is your excuse there?

BTW there is 1.5 Billion muslims in the world if we all blew up, well...

While 72 virgins sounds nice, I find it hard to believe that God is using sin, tempting young Muslims with lust and eternal pleasure in order to get them to commit another sin (murder/suicide) for their God. If that God is real, I want nothing to do with him.

This is a spinning
Allah(SWT) Promised martyrs( those who die in his way) hour al ayn (beutiful maidens) are creatures of the almighty that is a recompense for the believer who gave his life for the almighty. They are not to be confused with young women. The word used to describe them is "pure".

How can man make a sin AFTER the day of reckoning????
By the time a martyr will be with his 72 hour al ayn, he will have been judged.[/quote] Im not sure what you mean by the last statement. According to your religion, God is commanding you to kill those who do not believe the same as you. Murder is a sin (i have to guess and say that murder is still wrong in the muslim world.) yet your God commands it when it suits his needs. He's a hypocrite. If there is a hell, which I don't think there is, surely Hitler will be sitting alongside Dahmer and all the suicide bombers the world over.

[Ramadi]

. I'm saying blowing up civilians in a cafe or a bus is wrong.

So do we but judging them from far away and without understanding their lives is stupid.

You want the land? take it back. Stop killing innocent women and children.

Sounds easy, can you please tell me how do I take it back. Where do I have to go? Do you have any address?

contrary to your probably stereotyping of me, I am not in support of Israel.

You do not support Israel but you are blatantly against those opposing it.

And you can't use the jewish occupation as an excuse

So If there where no jewish occupation do you think there will be suicide bombings?

as there are plenty of Iraqi muslims killing each other in the name of land.

Does it mean that it is encouraged by Islam?
Many muslims don't pray those it mean that prayer is not part of Islam?

And they've been liberated by the U.S.

Children in Fallujah under the rubbles would beg to differ.
Hell even those who passed time in Saddam's jails don't agree with you.
America by destroying Iraq's infrastructure and instoring a blatantly sectarian government has opened the way for sectarian killing absent in Saddam's days.

God is commanding you to kill those who do not believe the same as you.

To every People have We appointed rites and ceremonies which they must follow, let them not then dispute with you on the matter, but do invite (them) to your Lord: for you are assuredly on the Right Way. If they do wrangle with you, say, 'God knows best what it is you are doing.' 'God will judge between you on the Day of Judgment concerning the matters in which you differ') (Al-Hajj 21:76-69)

There is no compulsion in religion) (Al-Baqarah 2:256).

If then they turn away, We have not sent you as a guard over them. Your duty is but to convey (the Message)…) (Ash-Shura 42:48)

(Invite (all) to the Way of your Lord with wisdom and beautiful preaching; and argue with them in ways that are best and most gracious. Your Lord knows best, who have strayed from His Path, and who receive guidance) (An-Nahl 16:125).

And say, 'The truth is from your Lord, so whosoever wants let him believe and whosoever wants let him deny’) (An-Nahl 16:29)

All those verses beg to differ Now its either you whom I should trust for information on Islam or the Qoran

Murder is a sin

Even if your life, family and land depended on it?

yet your God commands it when it suits his needs.

The Allmighty does not NEED anything he is self sustainable he does not need anything nor anyone to exist . Wether you believe in him or not wether you live or not you do not change him a single bit.

Please do not insult God, you can criticize as much as you want but do not blatantly insult him.

[Nameless]

There might be found some food for thought (and lots of spin) in the;

Skeptic's Annotated Quran

http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/quran/index.htm

The Skeptic's Annotated Bible and The Skeptic's Annotated Book of Mormon can also be found here...

Plenty of room for apologetics and spin to go around. No 'scripture' aught be taken literally, to gain understanding of any depth at all...

[k-nug]

I think you misunderstood part of my post. I will post later on when I have time. In short, I was not saying 'murder is sin'. That's a religious belief and I am atheist. I believe murder is wrong except for self-or family defense. I will reply in depth later.

[Ramadi]

By the way you said that God needs us to murder.
Just so you would know, God said:
“Every deed a person does is for his own self except fasting; it is for Me and I compensate for it”.
One reasoning given is that fasting cannot be shown off.

[daylight]

i'm sorry i don't have an english quran with me, cuz u guys don't allowe it translated.

Who said there isnt translations for the Quran..It is translated to numerous languages keeping in mind that it is not the Quran but a translation of the meanings. The Quran is only the arabic text revealed to the prophet Muhammad (pbuh).

First the quran calls him merciful.
second one of the first verses of the quran, says " some people will not believe that mohammad is the prophet, they won't believe because god does not want them to believe, god wants them to burn in hell, so don't bother preaching to them"
Now that is hardly merciful is it?

and this is only the tip of the iceberg. if i had my arabic quran with me i would have translated dozens of other contradictions. if the bible could be defended some, the quran not at all.[/quote]

I know the Quran by heart..These is no such verse in the Quran. If you claim tha it exists..I'm ready to be baptized right now, because simply it doesnt exist,just pure propaganda against the truth (ISLAM).

[Pazuzu bin Hanbi]

Numerous passages in the Qur’an make reference to Allah sealing the hearts of disbelievers. How, then, can Allah hold them responsible for not believing in Islam if he has already ensured they will ignore its message?