Does the Bible contain all the teachings and words of Jesus Christ ?
Does the Bible give indication or evidence that there are more of his teachings that we do not currently have?
All the words and teachings of Jesus?
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Re: All the words and teachings of Jesus?
Post #101Thanks for your acknowledgment; you’re a Christian. Christians believe Jesus is the Almighty God who came in the flesh - the flesh of the man who was called the Son of God, per se. Haven’t you heard and learned that from the Lord Jesus?Athetotheist wrote: ↑Wed Jun 17, 2026 9:06 pm [Replying to OneJack in post #99]
I was raised in a nominally Christian home, though I don't see how that's relevant to the discussion we're having here.How did you become a Christian? What exactly did you do?
Could you please tell me what exactly you mean with your phrase, ‘which they do not believe of the Bible?’
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Re: All the words and teachings of Jesus?
Post #102[Replying to OneJack in post #101]
I told you how I was raised. I've experienced a lot since then.Thanks for your acknowledgment; you’re a Christian.
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Re: All the words and teachings of Jesus?
Post #103Could you please tell me what exactly you mean with your phrase, ‘which they do not believe of the Bible?’Athetotheist wrote: ↑Wed Jun 17, 2026 10:06 pm [Replying to OneJack in post #101]
I told you how I was raised. I've experienced a lot since then.Thanks for your acknowledgment; you’re a Christian.
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Re: All the words and teachings of Jesus?
Post #104[Replying to OneJack in post #103]
Christians believe that the Bible is the written word of God. They do not believe that the Bible is the word made flesh. That's what they believe Jesus is.Could you please tell me what exactly you mean with your phrase, ‘which they do not believe of the Bible?’
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Re: All the words and teachings of Jesus?
Post #105I'm sorry, but the Lord Jesus Christ did not teach that to His disciples. He defined the scriptures/Bible as testimonies to Him that He truly exists, so that people may come to Him for their salvation and eternal life. God's words come out from the mouth of the Lord Jesus, to whom we have to come to hear [from Him] the fresh words of God. You were supposed to learn this from the Lord Jesus Christ, being a Christian.Athetotheist wrote: ↑Wed Jun 17, 2026 11:11 pm [Replying to OneJack in post #103]
Christians believe that the Bible is the written word of God.Could you please tell me what exactly you mean with your phrase, ‘which they do not believe of the Bible?’
Okay, we're on the same boat here.They do not believe that the Bible is the word made flesh.
The appropriate phrase for this would be 'Jesus is the Almighty God who came in the flesh - the flesh of the man who was called the Son of God, per se. Jesus is God, not was God, which the Word in John 1:1 connoted.That's what they believe Jesus is.
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Re: All the words and teachings of Jesus?
Post #106[Replying to OneJack in post #105]
Christians believe that the Bible is the written word of God.
Christians believe that the Bible is the written word of God.
Then you have a problem. You cast scriptures as testimonies that he exists but you have those testimonies full of errors, so you can't trust them.I'm sorry, but the Lord Jesus Christ did not teach that to His disciples. He defined the scriptures/Bible as testimonies to Him that He truly exists
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Re: All the words and teachings of Jesus?
Post #107The phrase 'testimonies to Jesus' simply means proofs that Jesus is real and alive; He truly exists. Whether those testimonies are full of errors or not, His existence remains intact and true, and the role of the scriptures in testifying to Jesus remains intact in itself. That's why if you are looking for the truth, you have to come and call on the Lord and seek from Him the truth you're looking for, and you are not obliged to render trust and confidence in the scriptures, but in the Lord alone.Athetotheist wrote: ↑Thu Jun 18, 2026 8:36 am [Replying to OneJack in post #105]
Christians believe that the Bible is the written word of God.
Then you have a problem. You cast scriptures as testimonies that he exists but you have those testimonies full of errors, so you can't trust them.I'm sorry, but the Lord Jesus Christ did not teach that to His disciples. He defined the scriptures/Bible as testimonies to Him that He truly exists
You should have learned these things from the Lord Jesus since He is the Pastor and Teacher of all Christians, across all generations.
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Re: All the words and teachings of Jesus?
Post #108[Replying to OneJack in post #107]
Then why need scriptures to be testimonies?The phrase 'testimonies to Jesus' simply means proofs that Jesus is real and alive; He truly exists. Whether those testimonies are full of errors or not, His existence remains intact and true, and the role of the scriptures in testifying to Jesus remains intact in itself. That's why if you are looking for the truth, you have to come and call on the Lord and seek from Him the truth you're looking for, and you are not obliged to render trust and confidence in the scriptures, but in the Lord alone.
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Re: All the words and teachings of Jesus?
Post #109Two things:Athetotheist wrote: ↑Thu Jun 18, 2026 10:58 pm [Replying to OneJack in post #107]
Then why need scriptures to be testimonies?The phrase 'testimonies to Jesus' simply means proofs that Jesus is real and alive; He truly exists. Whether those testimonies are full of errors or not, His existence remains intact and true, and the role of the scriptures in testifying to Jesus remains intact in itself. That's why if you are looking for the truth, you have to come and call on the Lord and seek from Him the truth you're looking for, and you are not obliged to render trust and confidence in the scriptures, but in the Lord alone.
1. For people to know that God is real and alive forever, and
2. For people to come to God to have salvation and everlasting life.
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Re: All the words and teachings of Jesus?
Post #110[Replying to OneJack in post #109]
Why couldn't that be conveyed without scripture? Did you need any scripture to come to all the knowledge you claim to have?Then why need scriptures to be testimonies?
Two things:
1. For people to know that God is real and alive forever, and
2. For people to come to God to have salvation and everlasting life.
"The religious idea of God cannot do full duty for the metaphysical infinity."
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