The Failure Of Marriage In ‘One Flesh’ Issue

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The Failure Of Marriage In ‘One Flesh’ Issue

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Genesis 2:24 (KJV): "Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be ‘one flesh.’

Many have overlooked the failure of marriage as far as the phrase ‘one flesh’ is concerned - the failure of making the two couples ‘one flesh,’ per se!

Question: Why does the union of a man and a woman in marriage turn them into a couple instead of ‘one flesh,’ as written in the bible?

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[Replying to OneJack in post #1]
Why does the union of a man and a woman in marriage turn them into a couple instead of ‘one flesh,’ as written in the bible?
Even with "one flesh" being taken in a spiritual sense, how does biblical law declare that man and woman always remain one flesh when it allows them to divorce (Deuteronomy 24:1-3)?
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Athetotheist wrote: Mon Mar 30, 2026 12:40 pm [Replying to OneJack in post #1]
Why does the union of a man and a woman in marriage turn them into a couple instead of ‘one flesh,’ as written in the bible?
Even with "one flesh" being taken in a spiritual sense, how does biblical law declare that man and woman always remain one flesh when it allows them to divorce (Deuteronomy 24:1-3)?
The revealing truth continues to testify to us, at all times, that 'becoming one flesh' is not true based on the biblical verse because even in the material or spiritual realm, a married couple remains two individual flesh. So, it's a big mistake that is written in the Bible; not because God is wrong, but those who wrote the scripture are likely the ones who made the error, for reasons only they know, and God certainly knows.

If we observe carefully, in marriage, God gives a gift to the couple, and that is to have a child, formed from the man's sperm and the woman's egg, meaning 'one flesh' from two flesh that united - a result of intercourse. Whether or not the couple gets a divorce, they remain two flesh until death, and even in eternity.

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It indicates the level of closeness God wishes for us in marriage.

Marriage is the ultimate symbol of the union between God and man. God wants to be that close to us.

The fact of divorce and not being one flesh just reflects our sin nature. Celebrating our sin nature is what our society does. It's part of the ways of man.
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Wootah wrote: Tue Mar 31, 2026 4:14 pm It indicates the level of closeness God wishes for us in marriage.

Marriage is the ultimate symbol of the union between God and man. God wants to be that close to us.

The fact of divorce and not being one flesh just reflects our sin nature. Celebrating our sin nature is what our society does. It's part of the ways of man.
Wow that's a whole bunch of claims. And not a single bit of support for any of them. Given that, they all can and should be ignored. At least you didn't attempt to use the Bible which isn't considered authoritative in this subforum. That is one positive.

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Wootah wrote: Tue Mar 31, 2026 4:14 pm It indicates the level of closeness God wishes for us in marriage.

Marriage is the ultimate symbol of the union between God and man. God wants to be that close to us.

The fact of divorce and not being one flesh just reflects our sin nature. Celebrating our sin nature is what our society does. It's part of the ways of man.
Even without divorce, the reality that the couple is still two individual flesh-and-blood people prevails over what is written in the Bible, don't you think? We cannot shift the meaning of 'one flesh' to the spiritual realm, because the couple remains two individual spirit entities when they die.

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Tcg wrote: Tue Mar 31, 2026 7:26 pm
Wootah wrote: Tue Mar 31, 2026 4:14 pm It indicates the level of closeness God wishes for us in marriage.

Marriage is the ultimate symbol of the union between God and man. God wants to be that close to us.

The fact of divorce and not being one flesh just reflects our sin nature. Celebrating our sin nature is what our society does. It's part of the ways of man.
Wow that's a whole bunch of claims. And not a single bit of support for any of them. Given that, they all can and should be ignored. At least you didn't attempt to use the Bible which isn't considered authoritative in this subforum. That is one positive.

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Question: Why does the union of a man and a woman in marriage turn them into a couple instead of ‘one flesh,’ as written in the bible?
Do you agree that the person who created the thread is asking for Bible interpretations for their thread?
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Wootah wrote: Sat Apr 04, 2026 12:09 am
Tcg wrote: Tue Mar 31, 2026 7:26 pm
Wootah wrote: Tue Mar 31, 2026 4:14 pm It indicates the level of closeness God wishes for us in marriage.

Marriage is the ultimate symbol of the union between God and man. God wants to be that close to us.

The fact of divorce and not being one flesh just reflects our sin nature. Celebrating our sin nature is what our society does. It's part of the ways of man.
Wow that's a whole bunch of claims. And not a single bit of support for any of them. Given that, they all can and should be ignored. At least you didn't attempt to use the Bible which isn't considered authoritative in this subforum. That is one positive.

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Question: Why does the union of a man and a woman in marriage turn them into a couple instead of ‘one flesh,’ as written in the bible?
Do you agree that the person who created the thread is asking for Bible interpretations for their thread?
Have you seen anything in the bible, so far?

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OneJack wrote: Tue Mar 31, 2026 8:22 pm
Wootah wrote: Tue Mar 31, 2026 4:14 pm It indicates the level of closeness God wishes for us in marriage.

Marriage is the ultimate symbol of the union between God and man. God wants to be that close to us.

The fact of divorce and not being one flesh just reflects our sin nature. Celebrating our sin nature is what our society does. It's part of the ways of man.
Even without divorce, the reality that the couple is still two individual flesh-and-blood people prevails over what is written in the Bible, don't you think? We cannot shift the meaning of 'one flesh' to the spiritual realm, because the couple remains two individual spirit entities when they die.
What do you think one flesh means according to the Bible verse you are using?

If there was a creature that had two separate bodies moving around in the world would that be one flesh?
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Wootah wrote: Sat Apr 04, 2026 12:55 am
OneJack wrote: Tue Mar 31, 2026 8:22 pm
Wootah wrote: Tue Mar 31, 2026 4:14 pm It indicates the level of closeness God wishes for us in marriage.

Marriage is the ultimate symbol of the union between God and man. God wants to be that close to us.

The fact of divorce and not being one flesh just reflects our sin nature. Celebrating our sin nature is what our society does. It's part of the ways of man.
Even without divorce, the reality that the couple is still two individual flesh-and-blood people prevails over what is written in the Bible, don't you think? We cannot shift the meaning of 'one flesh' to the spiritual realm, because the couple remains two individual spirit entities when they die.
What do you think one flesh means according to the Bible verse you are using?
I don’t believe in the ‘one flesh’ issue in the bible if the couple in marriage is the object and recipient thereof.
Wootah wrote:If there was a creature that had two separate bodies moving around in the world would that be one flesh?
That would be creatures, so to speak, not a one-flesh creature.

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