People in Crisis

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I know from experience that many people without the knowledge of the Bible, in a last-ditch effort to put away things like drugs, alcohol, or some perverse lifestyle, have prayed to God, a God they do not know, and almost instantly they turned their lives around and began to study the Bible, and become a new person.

What I’m describing is one of the most striking and beautiful patterns in Christian experience, and it lines up with something deeply biblical. God will meet people long before they understand Him. In fact, the above is exactly how countless Christians throughout history have come to faith.

Many people in crisis will cry out to a God they barely know, and He will answer. This is one of the clearest demonstrations of his grace. They don’t know theology. They don’t know doctrine. They don’t know the Trinity, and most don’t even know what they’re asking for. But they know they’re at the end of themselves.

And God responds. This is not because their prayer is theologically precise. It’s because God is merciful, and He delights to rescue people who are drowning. Even before someone knows the Bible, the Holy Spirit can convict, draw, awaken, break chains, and create a hunger for truth.

This is not a “new revelation.” It’s God applying the truth of Scripture to a heart that hasn’t read it yet. In other words, the Holy Spirit prepares the heart before the mind catches up.

What usually follows? they turn to the Bible. Those in crisis don’t stay in vague spirituality; they don’t build a religion out of their experience, nor do they follow “any spirit.” What they do seek is the word, then Christ, truth, and holiness.

This is the proof that their experience was genuine. A true encounter with God always leads a person toward Scripture, not away from it.

[JehovahsWitness]

So to sum up , you believe that : some things in the bible are TRUE and that those truths (that we can read in the bible) are the words (the declarations) of the Son/Almighty God

Correct!

.. and what God says is important.

I’m sorry but I don’t believe in your perception.

You don't believe what God says is important?

Please clarify.

[OneJack]

So to sum up , you believe that : some things in the bible are TRUE and that those truths (that we can read in the bible) are the words (the declarations) of the Son/Almighty God

Correct!

.. and what God says is important.

I’m sorry but I don’t believe in your perception.

You don't believe what God says is important?

Please clarify.

What we [all] heard, hear, and will hear from the real and forever Living God [Lord Jesus] is important because they are truths. Reading news items is different from hearing and witnessing the same; the latter weighs more than the former.

[OneJack]

the following verses are false;

Gen 2:17. But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

24. For this reason a man shall leave his father and his mother, and be joined to his wife; and they shall become one flesh.

Adam and Eve did not die in the day that they ate the forbidden fruit, hence, false.

And is the prologue of John which you earlier rejected false?

Yes, it is!

And did the Lord Jesus to whom you have conversations with tell you these things, or did you reason them out on your own?

Yes He did. We learned from the Lord that the utterance He made to Adam was, 'on the day that you eat of it, you’ll be clothed in sin.' And verse 24 ended with Jesus' utterance, '..and they shall have one flesh,' meaning offspring, instead of 'they shall become one flesh.'

You say "we".

Yes, ‘we’ means my family, relatives, and friends.

How does he speak to you and your group?

For the kick off, the Lord sent angels to my nephew, who brought him the good tidings from the Lord Jesus, to wit:

March 26, 1987, a baby was born and named Marco or Makie. From childhood, Makie's eyes were open to spirits like angels and demons. As he grew up, he didn't tell anyone what he saw. Many times a day, he saw spirits. Sometimes they were with him while walking, sometimes while eating, but the light spirits of the angels didn't speak. The spirits with ugly appearances, however, said and ordered him to do things. As time passed, the number of spirits he saw increased. This went on and on, and the number kept growing. He was 7 years old when this mysterious event happened. Here's his account:

11:30 PM, I woke up feeling strange, accompanied by a cold wind that seemed to be circulating around me. Soon, I heard a loud thud, and a fire came out from the ceiling of our house and suddenly disappeared. Exactly 12:00 AM, a cold smoke entered the house with seven lights, but I didn't know they were angels. Suddenly, they spoke for the first time, saying,

"Peace, don't be afraid or troubled, for we are angels sent from heaven to reveal God's blessing to you. The next coming of the Lord God Almighty is near, and you will prepare His way in the world. Listen, you, your uncle Rosento's family, a woman named Marita, and your cousin Rebida's family will be revealed by God on the appointed day. Listen carefully, at first, Rebida and her family will be with you in the ministry God will establish, but because of her trust in a person, they will be removed from that ministry. However, a worker of your uncle and his family will replace Rebida's family, but not all members of the family of your uncle's worker will be part of the church you will establish, because some of them still have doubts. A man will also be with you because he will work with Marianie's nephew, Rosento's wife's relative. Before all this happens, you will have an unusual illness because that illness will come from demons. You won't be able to study for a year because of your illness. You will be taken to different hospitals, but none of the doctors who examine you will be able to explain your illness and will say you're going crazy. Even albularios (spiritual healers) won't be able to explain your illness and will say you're bewitched. You and the albulario will be played by demons, and one person will be ruined. Many will stay away from you because they think you're crazy. The demons will do many things to destroy you completely. Before we leave, there's only one question you need to answer: Do you agree to these things happening or not?"

I answered and said I agreed to that agreement. After my answer, the angels said goodbye, but before they left, they introduced themselves and said their names - Michael, Daniel, Samuel, Raniel, Ezekiel, Gristel, and Josakiel. And the angels left.

In your heads or audibly?

Through audible and visual manifestations, as I mentioned above.

When you are praying?

He responds to me through physical manifestation.

Does he appear physically?

No, only through manifestations. We’re always blindfolded every time the Lord spoke with us for approximately 14 years.

[Ross]

the following verses are false;

Gen 2:17. But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

24. For this reason a man shall leave his father and his mother, and be joined to his wife; and they shall become one flesh.

Adam and Eve did not die in the day that they ate the forbidden fruit, hence, false.


Yes, it is!

And did the Lord Jesus to whom you have conversations with tell you these things, or did you reason them out on your own?

Yes He did. We learned from the Lord that the utterance He made to Adam was, 'on the day that you eat of it, you’ll be clothed in sin.' And verse 24 ended with Jesus' utterance, '..and they shall have one flesh,' meaning offspring, instead of 'they shall become one flesh.'

You say "we".

Yes, ‘we’ means my family, relatives, and friends.

How does he speak to you and your group?

For the kick off, the Lord sent angels to my nephew, who brought him the good tidings from the Lord Jesus, to wit:

March 26, 1987, a baby was born and named Marco or Makie. From childhood, Makie's eyes were open to spirits like angels and demons. As he grew up, he didn't tell anyone what he saw. Many times a day, he saw spirits. Sometimes they were with him while walking, sometimes while eating, but the light spirits of the angels didn't speak. The spirits with ugly appearances, however, said and ordered him to do things. As time passed, the number of spirits he saw increased. This went on and on, and the number kept growing. He was 7 years old when this mysterious event happened. Here's his account:

11:30 PM, I woke up feeling strange, accompanied by a cold wind that seemed to be circulating around me. Soon, I heard a loud thud, and a fire came out from the ceiling of our house and suddenly disappeared. Exactly 12:00 AM, a cold smoke entered the house with seven lights, but I didn't know they were angels. Suddenly, they spoke for the first time, saying,

"Peace, don't be afraid or troubled, for we are angels sent from heaven to reveal God's blessing to you. The next coming of the Lord God Almighty is near, and you will prepare His way in the world. Listen, you, your uncle Rosento's family, a woman named Marita, and your cousin Rebida's family will be revealed by God on the appointed day. Listen carefully, at first, Rebida and her family will be with you in the ministry God will establish, but because of her trust in a person, they will be removed from that ministry. However, a worker of your uncle and his family will replace Rebida's family, but not all members of the family of your uncle's worker will be part of the church you will establish, because some of them still have doubts. A man will also be with you because he will work with Marianie's nephew, Rosento's wife's relative. Before all this happens, you will have an unusual illness because that illness will come from demons. You won't be able to study for a year because of your illness. You will be taken to different hospitals, but none of the doctors who examine you will be able to explain your illness and will say you're going crazy. Even albularios (spiritual healers) won't be able to explain your illness and will say you're bewitched. You and the albulario will be played by demons, and one person will be ruined. Many will stay away from you because they think you're crazy. The demons will do many things to destroy you completely. Before we leave, there's only one question you need to answer: Do you agree to these things happening or not?"

I answered and said I agreed to that agreement. After my answer, the angels said goodbye, but before they left, they introduced themselves and said their names - Michael, Daniel, Samuel, Raniel, Ezekiel, Gristel, and Josakiel. And the angels left.

In your heads or audibly?

Through audible and visual manifestations, as I mentioned above.

When you are praying?

He responds to me through physical manifestation.

Does he appear physically?

No, only through manifestations. We’re always blindfolded every time the Lord spoke with us for approximately 14 years.

Thank you. So how many are in your church or movement now, and does it have a name? And do you practice glossolalia?

[JehovahsWitness]

So to sum up , you believe that : some things in the bible are TRUE and that those truths (that we can read in the bible) are the words (the declarations) of the Son/Almighty God

Correct!

What we [all] heard, hear, and will hear from the real and forever Living God [Lord Jesus] is important because they are truths ....

Did you not confirm as correct the fact that we can also {QUOTE } "READ in the bible ... the words (the declarations) of the Son/Almighty God"?

[OneJack]

And did the Lord Jesus to whom you have conversations with tell you these things, or did you reason them out on your own?

Yes He did. We learned from the Lord that the utterance He made to Adam was, 'on the day that you eat of it, you’ll be clothed in sin.' And verse 24 ended with Jesus' utterance, '..and they shall have one flesh,' meaning offspring, instead of 'they shall become one flesh.'

You say "we".

Yes, ‘we’ means my family, relatives, and friends.

How does he speak to you and your group?

For the kick off, the Lord sent angels to my nephew, who brought him the good tidings from the Lord Jesus, to wit:

March 26, 1987, a baby was born and named Marco or Makie. From childhood, Makie's eyes were open to spirits like angels and demons. As he grew up, he didn't tell anyone what he saw. Many times a day, he saw spirits. Sometimes they were with him while walking, sometimes while eating, but the light spirits of the angels didn't speak. The spirits with ugly appearances, however, said and ordered him to do things. As time passed, the number of spirits he saw increased. This went on and on, and the number kept growing. He was 7 years old when this mysterious event happened. Here's his account:

11:30 PM, I woke up feeling strange, accompanied by a cold wind that seemed to be circulating around me. Soon, I heard a loud thud, and a fire came out from the ceiling of our house and suddenly disappeared. Exactly 12:00 AM, a cold smoke entered the house with seven lights, but I didn't know they were angels. Suddenly, they spoke for the first time, saying,

"Peace, don't be afraid or troubled, for we are angels sent from heaven to reveal God's blessing to you. The next coming of the Lord God Almighty is near, and you will prepare His way in the world. Listen, you, your uncle Rosento's family, a woman named Marita, and your cousin Rebida's family will be revealed by God on the appointed day. Listen carefully, at first, Rebida and her family will be with you in the ministry God will establish, but because of her trust in a person, they will be removed from that ministry. However, a worker of your uncle and his family will replace Rebida's family, but not all members of the family of your uncle's worker will be part of the church you will establish, because some of them still have doubts. A man will also be with you because he will work with Marianie's nephew, Rosento's wife's relative. Before all this happens, you will have an unusual illness because that illness will come from demons. You won't be able to study for a year because of your illness. You will be taken to different hospitals, but none of the doctors who examine you will be able to explain your illness and will say you're going crazy. Even albularios (spiritual healers) won't be able to explain your illness and will say you're bewitched. You and the albulario will be played by demons, and one person will be ruined. Many will stay away from you because they think you're crazy. The demons will do many things to destroy you completely. Before we leave, there's only one question you need to answer: Do you agree to these things happening or not?"

I answered and said I agreed to that agreement. After my answer, the angels said goodbye, but before they left, they introduced themselves and said their names - Michael, Daniel, Samuel, Raniel, Ezekiel, Gristel, and Josakiel. And the angels left.

In your heads or audibly?

Through audible and visual manifestations, as I mentioned above.

When you are praying?

He responds to me through physical manifestation.

Does he appear physically?

No, only through manifestations. We’re always blindfolded every time the Lord spoke with us for approximately 14 years.

Thank you. So how many are in your church or movement now, and does it have a name? And do you practice glossolalia?

We were able to reach a maximum of 17 souls during the Lord’s shepherding, and we’re now on our own families following the teachings left to us by the Lord to observe daily. The name of our church while the Lord was shepherding us was Beginning A New Life With Jesus, but it existed only during the stay of the Lord with us. The Lord told us that we established a church only to follow the law of the government of the people, where we are duty-bound to be subservient unconditionally, but, in reality, there is no need for that church because the Lord can teach us all by Himself simultaneously, even if we are billions followers of the Lord.

Regarding glossolalia, it is not to be practiced, as many do during live telecast broadcasts. Speaking in tongues is spontaneous, and no one knows when and where it will come, or who will be its recipient. The Lord told us that whoever practices this glossolalia, wittingly or unwittingly, is merely inviting the devils [hovering around] to possess them at random.

[Ross]

Yes He did. We learned from the Lord that the utterance He made to Adam was, 'on the day that you eat of it, you’ll be clothed in sin.' And verse 24 ended with Jesus' utterance, '..and they shall have one flesh,' meaning offspring, instead of 'they shall become one flesh.'

You say "we".

Yes, ‘we’ means my family, relatives, and friends.

How does he speak to you and your group?

For the kick off, the Lord sent angels to my nephew, who brought him the good tidings from the Lord Jesus, to wit:

March 26, 1987, a baby was born and named Marco or Makie. From childhood, Makie's eyes were open to spirits like angels and demons. As he grew up, he didn't tell anyone what he saw. Many times a day, he saw spirits. Sometimes they were with him while walking, sometimes while eating, but the light spirits of the angels didn't speak. The spirits with ugly appearances, however, said and ordered him to do things. As time passed, the number of spirits he saw increased. This went on and on, and the number kept growing. He was 7 years old when this mysterious event happened. Here's his account:

11:30 PM, I woke up feeling strange, accompanied by a cold wind that seemed to be circulating around me. Soon, I heard a loud thud, and a fire came out from the ceiling of our house and suddenly disappeared. Exactly 12:00 AM, a cold smoke entered the house with seven lights, but I didn't know they were angels. Suddenly, they spoke for the first time, saying,

"Peace, don't be afraid or troubled, for we are angels sent from heaven to reveal God's blessing to you. The next coming of the Lord God Almighty is near, and you will prepare His way in the world. Listen, you, your uncle Rosento's family, a woman named Marita, and your cousin Rebida's family will be revealed by God on the appointed day. Listen carefully, at first, Rebida and her family will be with you in the ministry God will establish, but because of her trust in a person, they will be removed from that ministry. However, a worker of your uncle and his family will replace Rebida's family, but not all members of the family of your uncle's worker will be part of the church you will establish, because some of them still have doubts. A man will also be with you because he will work with Marianie's nephew, Rosento's wife's relative. Before all this happens, you will have an unusual illness because that illness will come from demons. You won't be able to study for a year because of your illness. You will be taken to different hospitals, but none of the doctors who examine you will be able to explain your illness and will say you're going crazy. Even albularios (spiritual healers) won't be able to explain your illness and will say you're bewitched. You and the albulario will be played by demons, and one person will be ruined. Many will stay away from you because they think you're crazy. The demons will do many things to destroy you completely. Before we leave, there's only one question you need to answer: Do you agree to these things happening or not?"

I answered and said I agreed to that agreement. After my answer, the angels said goodbye, but before they left, they introduced themselves and said their names - Michael, Daniel, Samuel, Raniel, Ezekiel, Gristel, and Josakiel. And the angels left.

In your heads or audibly?

Through audible and visual manifestations, as I mentioned above.

When you are praying?

He responds to me through physical manifestation.

Does he appear physically?

No, only through manifestations. We’re always blindfolded every time the Lord spoke with us for approximately 14 years.

Thank you. So how many are in your church or movement now, and does it have a name? And do you practice glossolalia?

We were able to reach a maximum of 17 souls during the Lord’s shepherding, and we’re now on our own families following the teachings left to us by the Lord to observe daily. The name of our church while the Lord was shepherding us was Beginning A New Life With Jesus, but it existed only during the stay of the Lord with us. The Lord told us that we established a church only to follow the law of the government of the people, where we are duty-bound to be subservient unconditionally, but, in reality, there is no need for that church because the Lord can teach us all by Himself simultaneously, even if we are billions followers of the Lord.

Regarding glossolalia, it is not to be practiced, as many do during live telecast broadcasts. Speaking in tongues is spontaneous, and no one knows when and where it will come, or who will be its recipient. The Lord told us that whoever practices this glossolalia, wittingly or unwittingly, is merely inviting the devils [hovering around] to possess them at random.

Thank you for answering my questions. Where are you based geographically?

You said that the movement was by heavenly ordination to do the following:

The next coming of the Lord God Almighty is near, and you will prepare His way in the world.

Surely you and your associates with heavenly support should have changed the world and Christendom by now?

[OneJack]

You say "we".

Yes, ‘we’ means my family, relatives, and friends.

How does he speak to you and your group?

For the kick off, the Lord sent angels to my nephew, who brought him the good tidings from the Lord Jesus, to wit:

March 26, 1987, a baby was born and named Marco or Makie. From childhood, Makie's eyes were open to spirits like angels and demons. As he grew up, he didn't tell anyone what he saw. Many times a day, he saw spirits. Sometimes they were with him while walking, sometimes while eating, but the light spirits of the angels didn't speak. The spirits with ugly appearances, however, said and ordered him to do things. As time passed, the number of spirits he saw increased. This went on and on, and the number kept growing. He was 7 years old when this mysterious event happened. Here's his account:

11:30 PM, I woke up feeling strange, accompanied by a cold wind that seemed to be circulating around me. Soon, I heard a loud thud, and a fire came out from the ceiling of our house and suddenly disappeared. Exactly 12:00 AM, a cold smoke entered the house with seven lights, but I didn't know they were angels. Suddenly, they spoke for the first time, saying,

"Peace, don't be afraid or troubled, for we are angels sent from heaven to reveal God's blessing to you. The next coming of the Lord God Almighty is near, and you will prepare His way in the world. Listen, you, your uncle Rosento's family, a woman named Marita, and your cousin Rebida's family will be revealed by God on the appointed day. Listen carefully, at first, Rebida and her family will be with you in the ministry God will establish, but because of her trust in a person, they will be removed from that ministry. However, a worker of your uncle and his family will replace Rebida's family, but not all members of the family of your uncle's worker will be part of the church you will establish, because some of them still have doubts. A man will also be with you because he will work with Marianie's nephew, Rosento's wife's relative. Before all this happens, you will have an unusual illness because that illness will come from demons. You won't be able to study for a year because of your illness. You will be taken to different hospitals, but none of the doctors who examine you will be able to explain your illness and will say you're going crazy. Even albularios (spiritual healers) won't be able to explain your illness and will say you're bewitched. You and the albulario will be played by demons, and one person will be ruined. Many will stay away from you because they think you're crazy. The demons will do many things to destroy you completely. Before we leave, there's only one question you need to answer: Do you agree to these things happening or not?"

I answered and said I agreed to that agreement. After my answer, the angels said goodbye, but before they left, they introduced themselves and said their names - Michael, Daniel, Samuel, Raniel, Ezekiel, Gristel, and Josakiel. And the angels left.

In your heads or audibly?

Through audible and visual manifestations, as I mentioned above.

When you are praying?

He responds to me through physical manifestation.

Does he appear physically?

No, only through manifestations. We’re always blindfolded every time the Lord spoke with us for approximately 14 years.

Thank you. So how many are in your church or movement now, and does it have a name? And do you practice glossolalia?

We were able to reach a maximum of 17 souls during the Lord’s shepherding, and we’re now on our own families following the teachings left to us by the Lord to observe daily. The name of our church while the Lord was shepherding us was Beginning A New Life With Jesus, but it existed only during the stay of the Lord with us. The Lord told us that we established a church only to follow the law of the government of the people, where we are duty-bound to be subservient unconditionally, but, in reality, there is no need for that church because the Lord can teach us all by Himself simultaneously, even if we are billions followers of the Lord.

Regarding glossolalia, it is not to be practiced, as many do during live telecast broadcasts. Speaking in tongues is spontaneous, and no one knows when and where it will come, or who will be its recipient. The Lord told us that whoever practices this glossolalia, wittingly or unwittingly, is merely inviting the devils [hovering around] to possess them at random.

Thank you for answering my questions. Where are you based geographically?

Southeast Asia

You said that the movement was by heavenly ordination to do the following:

The next coming of the Lord God Almighty is near, and you will prepare His way in the world.

Surely you and your associates with heavenly support should have changed the world and Christendom by now?

The Lord God sent the Son to save the world, but the Jews and the whole world are still not moved or changed until now. Heaven, in any manner, will not meddle to move and change the hearts of the people to come back to God, even though we were tasked [by the Lord] to prepare the way for His impending return. The basis of God in everything we all do, to merit salvation and eternal life on the day of reckoning, is free will. Obviously and sadly, the heart of the Pharaoh is still living in almost all of us in this world.

If you may, kindly face the mirror, look closely at yourself straight in the eyes, and ask yourself, ‘Quo vadis, Ross?’


NOTE: If your terminology, ‘Christendom,’ refers to the biblical believing denominations around the face of the globe, they are actually bibliolaters or followers of the bible, which they elevate to the status of the Almighty God, the Lord Jesus Christ.

If they were all Christians, the world would not be in great chaos and trouble, as it is right now.

[Ross]

the following verses are false;

Gen 2:17. But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

Adam and Eve did not die in the day that they ate the forbidden fruit, hence, false.

He was told that he would die on the day of eating. He died spiritually immediately, but died physically at 930 years of age according to the account, so the Biblical 2 Peter 3:8 "one day is as a thousand years to The Lord" is relevant in this Genesis account.

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the following verses are false;

Gen 2:17. But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

Adam and Eve did not die in the day that they ate the forbidden fruit, hence, false.

He was told that he would die on the day of eating. He died spiritually immediately, but died physically at 930 years of age according to the account, so the Biblical 2 Peter 3:8 "one day is as a thousand years to The Lord" is relevant in this Genesis account.

Mr. Ross, you get an A+. Mr. OneJack, D-.