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I know from experience that many people without the knowledge of the Bible, in a last-ditch effort to put away things like drugs, alcohol, or some perverse lifestyle, have prayed to God, a God they do not know, and almost instantly they turned their lives around and began to study the Bible, and become a new person.

What I’m describing is one of the most striking and beautiful patterns in Christian experience, and it lines up with something deeply biblical. God will meet people long before they understand Him. In fact, the above is exactly how countless Christians throughout history have come to faith.

Many people in crisis will cry out to a God they barely know, and He will answer. This is one of the clearest demonstrations of his grace. They don’t know theology. They don’t know doctrine. They don’t know the Trinity, and most don’t even know what they’re asking for. But they know they’re at the end of themselves.

And God responds. This is not because their prayer is theologically precise. It’s because God is merciful, and He delights to rescue people who are drowning. Even before someone knows the Bible, the Holy Spirit can convict, draw, awaken, break chains, and create a hunger for truth.

This is not a “new revelation.” It’s God applying the truth of Scripture to a heart that hasn’t read it yet. In other words, the Holy Spirit prepares the heart before the mind catches up.

What usually follows? they turn to the Bible. Those in crisis don’t stay in vague spirituality; they don’t build a religion out of their experience, nor do they follow “any spirit.” What they do seek is the word, then Christ, truth, and holiness.

This is the proof that their experience was genuine. A true encounter with God always leads a person toward Scripture, not away from it.

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JehovahsWitness wrote: Thu Jan 08, 2026 11:58 pm
OneJack wrote: Thu Jan 08, 2026 7:51 pm
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OneJack wrote: Thu Jan 08, 2026 7:37 pm
Isa 42:8 I am the Lord: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images.

This verse is true.
And what was the original name in Hebrew before it was replaced with "The Lord" by many translators?
I asked the Lord about YHWH and He confirmed that YHWH is His name. Then I further asked, how about Yahweh, Lord? The Lord, again, confirmed Yahweh is His name. I then asked Him about the name Jehovah, but the Lord denies the name Jehovah, saying Jehovah is not my name.
Let's just stick to the truths in the bible ....YHWH is what is written so that is true. Correct?
Let’s just stick to what the Lord Jesus tells us, or to what we’ve heard and will still hear from Him. Jesus is the truth, not the bible.

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OneJack wrote: Fri Jan 09, 2026 12:02 am Let’s just stick to what the Lord Jesus tells us, .... not the bible.
I am sticking with what the Lord tells me, since he hasn't told me to believe YOU , I am not going to believe he spoke to you and gave me a message about what is true or not.

But I do agree with you about the truths in the bible....
OneJack wrote: Thu Jan 08, 2026 6:53 pm
... some things in the bible are TRUE and that those truths (that we can read in the bible) are the words (the declarations) of the Son/Almignty God
Correct!

....so let's just stick to what we have in common. You can let me know if you accept a verse or not and then we can take it from there.... So Almighty God confirmed in writing that YHWH is his name.

Is there another true verse in the bible where He says the four words "....that is my name"?
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JehovahsWitness wrote: Fri Jan 09, 2026 12:06 am
OneJack wrote: Fri Jan 09, 2026 12:02 am Let’s just stick to what the Lord Jesus tells us, .... not the bible.
I am sticking with what the Lord tells me, since he hasn't told me to believe YOU , I am not going to believe he spoke to you and gave me a message about what is true or not.

But I do agree with you about the truths in the bible....
Neither do I say believe in me but only in Jesus, let me clarify that to you. I can do away with the bible, but not with Jesus.
OneJack wrote: Thu Jan 08, 2026 6:53 pm
... some things in the bible are TRUE and that those truths (that we can read in the bible) are the words (the declarations) of the Son/Almignty God
Correct!
....so let's just stick to what we have in common. You can let me know if you accept a verse or not and then we can take it from there.... So Almighty God confirmed in writing that YHWH is his name.
Not only written in the bible, but we heard Him when He confirmed YHWH is His name.
Jehovah’s Witnesses wrote:Is there another true verse in the bible where He says the four words "....that is my name"?
Mostly in the OT accounts. But this does not mean that His name is only YHWH. The Almighty God has His own name in every language.

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OneJack wrote: Fri Jan 09, 2026 1:26 am
Jehovah’s Witnesses wrote:Is there another true verse in the bible where He says the four words "....that is my name"?
Mostly in the OT accounts. ...
so you believe "YES" there is another true verse in the bible that says the words "... that is my name" in the OT? Can you point me to the specific chapter and verse please where almighty God himself declares "that is my name".


Thank you.
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JehovahsWitness wrote: Fri Jan 09, 2026 2:55 am
OneJack wrote: Fri Jan 09, 2026 1:26 am
Jehovah’s Witnesses wrote:Is there another true verse in the bible where He says the four words "....that is my name"?
Mostly in the OT accounts. ...
so you believe "YES" there is another true verse in the bible that says the words "... that is my name" in the OT? Can you point me to the specific chapter and verse please where almighty God himself declares "that is my name".


Thank you.
What for, when even if we see million verses, they’ll surely not be able to save my soul, your soul, and their souls? I don’t see the necessity of looking for more verses, knowing that anyone can come and talk to the Almighty God, so that the latter may respond, for the truth about God and the salvation He offers to all.

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OneJack wrote: Fri Jan 09, 2026 3:03 am
JehovahsWitness wrote: Fri Jan 09, 2026 2:55 am
OneJack wrote: Fri Jan 09, 2026 1:26 am
Jehovah’s Witnesses wrote:Is there another true verse in the bible where He says the four words "....that is my name"?
Mostly in the OT accounts. ...
so you believe "YES" there is another true verse in the bible that says the words "... that is my name" in the OT? Can you point me to the specific chapter and verse please where almighty God himself declares "that is my name".


Thank you.
What for ...
Because that would be a declaration from Almighty and what God says is important. So did you really mean "YES" there is another true verse in the bible that says the words "... that is my name" ?

If so, where?
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JehovahsWitness wrote: Fri Jan 09, 2026 3:53 am
OneJack wrote: Fri Jan 09, 2026 3:03 am
JehovahsWitness wrote: Fri Jan 09, 2026 2:55 am
OneJack wrote: Fri Jan 09, 2026 1:26 am
Jehovah’s Witnesses wrote:Is there another true verse in the bible where He says the four words "....that is my name"?
Mostly in the OT accounts. ...
so you believe "YES" there is another true verse in the bible that says the words "... that is my name" in the OT? Can you point me to the specific chapter and verse please where almighty God himself declares "that is my name".


Thank you.
What for ...
Because that would be a declaration from Almighty and what God says is important. So did you really mean "YES" there is another true verse in the bible that says the words "... that is my name" ?

If so, where?
I’m sorry but I don’t believe in your perception. Just come to the Almighty God, listen to and learn the truth from Him. Don’t let yourself be obsessed over the bible, which is a book of testimonies only to Jesus.

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OneJack wrote: Thu Jan 08, 2026 7:34 pm
the following verses are false;

Gen 2:17. But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

24. For this reason a man shall leave his father and his mother, and be joined to his wife; and they shall become one flesh.

Adam and Eve did not die in the day that they ate the forbidden fruit, hence, false.
Ross wrote:And is the prologue of John which you earlier rejected false?
Yes, it is!
And did the Lord Jesus to whom you have conversations with tell you these things, or did you reason them out on your own?
Out of the eater came something to eat,
And out of the strong came something sweet.

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Ross wrote: Fri Jan 09, 2026 9:22 am
OneJack wrote: Thu Jan 08, 2026 7:34 pm
the following verses are false;

Gen 2:17. But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

24. For this reason a man shall leave his father and his mother, and be joined to his wife; and they shall become one flesh.

Adam and Eve did not die in the day that they ate the forbidden fruit, hence, false.
Ross wrote:And is the prologue of John which you earlier rejected false?
Yes, it is!
And did the Lord Jesus to whom you have conversations with tell you these things, or did you reason them out on your own?
Yes He did. We learned from the Lord that the utterance He made to Adam was, 'on the day that you eat of it, you’ll be clothed in sin.' And verse 24 ended with Jesus' utterance, '..and they shall have one flesh,' meaning offspring, instead of 'they shall become one flesh.'

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OneJack wrote: Fri Jan 09, 2026 9:41 am
Ross wrote: Fri Jan 09, 2026 9:22 am
OneJack wrote: Thu Jan 08, 2026 7:34 pm
the following verses are false;

Gen 2:17. But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

24. For this reason a man shall leave his father and his mother, and be joined to his wife; and they shall become one flesh.

Adam and Eve did not die in the day that they ate the forbidden fruit, hence, false.
Ross wrote:And is the prologue of John which you earlier rejected false?
Yes, it is!
And did the Lord Jesus to whom you have conversations with tell you these things, or did you reason them out on your own?
Yes He did. We learned from the Lord that the utterance He made to Adam was, 'on the day that you eat of it, you’ll be clothed in sin.' And verse 24 ended with Jesus' utterance, '..and they shall have one flesh,' meaning offspring, instead of 'they shall become one flesh.'
You say "we". How does he speak to you and your group? In your heads or audibly? When you are praying? Does he appear physically?
Out of the eater came something to eat,
And out of the strong came something sweet.

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