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I know from experience that many people without the knowledge of the Bible, in a last-ditch effort to put away things like drugs, alcohol, or some perverse lifestyle, have prayed to God, a God they do not know, and almost instantly they turned their lives around and began to study the Bible, and become a new person.

What I’m describing is one of the most striking and beautiful patterns in Christian experience, and it lines up with something deeply biblical. God will meet people long before they understand Him. In fact, the above is exactly how countless Christians throughout history have come to faith.

Many people in crisis will cry out to a God they barely know, and He will answer. This is one of the clearest demonstrations of his grace. They don’t know theology. They don’t know doctrine. They don’t know the Trinity, and most don’t even know what they’re asking for. But they know they’re at the end of themselves.

And God responds. This is not because their prayer is theologically precise. It’s because God is merciful, and He delights to rescue people who are drowning. Even before someone knows the Bible, the Holy Spirit can convict, draw, awaken, break chains, and create a hunger for truth.

This is not a “new revelation.” It’s God applying the truth of Scripture to a heart that hasn’t read it yet. In other words, the Holy Spirit prepares the heart before the mind catches up.

What usually follows? they turn to the Bible. Those in crisis don’t stay in vague spirituality; they don’t build a religion out of their experience, nor do they follow “any spirit.” What they do seek is the word, then Christ, truth, and holiness.

This is the proof that their experience was genuine. A true encounter with God always leads a person toward Scripture, not away from it.

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OneJack wrote: Wed Jan 07, 2026 9:56 pm [Replying to placebofactor in post #48]
olacebofactor wrote:Commentary: “Remember, no one else will teach you except Me.”
K.J.B. Isaiah 54:13, “And all thy children shall be taught of the LORD; and great shall be the peace of thy children.”
Jeremiah 31:34, “And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me…”
John 6:45 “It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me.”
1 John 2:27, “…ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things…”
The weight is on the phrase ‘no one will teach you except Me,’ which each one of us shall seek its reality, not through the bible, but by and through the Lord Himself, who is real and forever living. As long as we continue to confine ourselves to the limits and bounds of the pages of the bible, we’re still in bondage to bibliolatry, which is the same as idolatry.
placebofactor wrote:Commentary: “If you explain to one another, it's only according to your own will, according to your own thoughts.”
K.J.B. Jeremiah 23:16, “…they speak a vision of their own heart, and not out of the mouth of the LORD.”
Colossians 2:8, “Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.”
Proverbs 3:5, “Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.”
The Lord is talking here about conversation like we’re doing right now. He is not talking about someone who speaks outside the scriptures only. Trust in the Lord with all thine hearts does not mean trust all the words that you read in the bible.
placebofactor wrote:Commentary: “So remember, anyone who stands as a pastor, who stands as a leader of My church, is working iniquity and stealing My place as the Good Pastor.”
K.J.B. John 10:11, “I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep.”
John 10:12, “But he that is an hireling, and not the shepherd, whose own the sheep are not, seeth the wolf coming, and leaveth the sheep, and fleeth…”
Ezekiel 34:2, “Woe be to the shepherds of Israel that do feed themselves! should not the shepherds feed the flocks?”
Matthew 23:8, 10, “But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren… Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ.”
These are all the self-proclaimed pastors across all religious denominations, whose powerful weapon in luring people into their sheep’s fold is the Bible. The Lord ordains no one as pastor in His flock but Himself only.

placebofactor wrote:Commentary: “Because you are only human, you who are pastors, you who teach and stand before people, you who work iniquity…”
K.J.B. James 3:1 “My brethren, be not many masters, knowing that we shall receive the greater condemnation.”
Matthew 23:27–28, “…ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.”
Ezekiel 34:3–4, “Ye eat the fat, and ye clothe you with the wool, ye kill them that are fed: but ye feed not the flock…”
The moment you brazenly take the bible and stand up, as a pastor, in any congregation to preach Jesus, you’re a worker of iniquity, as simple as that.
placebofactor wrote:Commentary: “…you who cast out demons in My name…”
K.J.B. Matthew 7:22, “Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not… in thy name cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?”
Luke 10:17, “And the seventy returned again with joy, saying, Lord, even the devils are subject unto us through thy name.”
These people (self-proclaimed pastors) are famous in various born-again movements and the likes, and they perform on TV shows via live satellite feed. I know you know them.
placebofactor wrote:Commentary: “Remember that when I return, many will call out to Me, ‘Lord, Lord, didn't we do mighty works and cast out demons in Your name, didn't we heal?’”
K.J.B. Matthew 7:22, “Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?”
Matthew 25:11, “Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us.”

Commentary: “But remember, I will say to them, ‘I never knew you, I never recognized you, you who work iniquity…’”
K.J.B. Matthew 7:23, “And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.”

Commentary: “…you who cast out demons.”
K.J.B. Matthew 7:22–23, “…in thy name have cast out devils?… I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.”

Commentary: “Remember, when you cast out demons, you're taking away the role that belongs to Me.”
K.J.B. Luke 11:20, “But if I with the finger of God cast out devils, no doubt the kingdom of God is come upon you.”
Mark 16:17, “And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils…”
Acts 19:13–16, “…some of the vagabond Jews, exorcists, took upon them to call over them which had evil spirits the name of the Lord Jesus… And the evil spirit answered and said, Jesus I know, and Paul I know; but who are ye? And the man … overcame them…”
People do not recognize them because they use the bible in preaching Jesus.
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OneJack wrote: Wed Jan 07, 2026 9:15 pm
Some verses in the bible .... are false.
And on what basis do you reach this conclusion?

And is the prologue of John which you earlier rejected false?
Out of the eater came something to eat,
And out of the strong came something sweet.

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OneJack wrote: Wed Jan 07, 2026 9:15 pm
Some verses in the bible are true...
OneJack wrote: Tue Jan 06, 2026 7:04 pm
Jehova’s Witnesses wrote:It seems as if you are saying there are some things that are TRUE and that those truths (that we can read in the bible) are the words (the declarations) of the Son/Almignty God.
Exactly!
So to sum up , you believe that : some things in the bible are TRUE and that those truths (that we can read in the bible) are the words (the declarations) of the Son/Almignty God

Correct?
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JehovahsWitness wrote: Thu Jan 08, 2026 6:04 pm
OneJack wrote: Wed Jan 07, 2026 9:15 pm
Some verses in the bible are true...
OneJack wrote: Tue Jan 06, 2026 7:04 pm
Jehova’s Witnesses wrote:It seems as if you are saying there are some things that are TRUE and that those truths (that we can read in the bible) are the words (the declarations) of the Son/Almignty God.
Exactly!
So to sum up , you believe that : some things in the bible are TRUE and that those truths (that we can read in the bible) are the words (the declarations) of the Son/Almignty God

Correct?
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OneJack wrote: Thu Jan 08, 2026 6:53 pm
JehovahsWitness wrote: Thu Jan 08, 2026 6:04 pm So to sum up , you believe that : some things in the bible are TRUE and that those truths (that we can read in the bible) are the words (the declarations) of the Son/Almignty God ...
Correct!

So is Isaiah 42 verse 8 a true verse or a false verse?
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Ross wrote: Thu Jan 08, 2026 12:11 pm
OneJack wrote: Wed Jan 07, 2026 9:15 pm
Some verses in the bible .... are false. And on what basis do you reach this conclusion?
Two things - Godlical, and Biblical means are my basis.

1.Godlically speaking, the Lord Jesus said,

“You are ignorant of your sins. Your good deeds won't save you. Come and I will teach you. Only your Lord can teach you the meaning of sin, especially since there are many errors and not included in the Bible.”

2. Biblically speaking, the following verses are false;

Gen 2:17. But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

24. For this reason a man shall leave his father and his mother, and be joined to his wife; and they shall become one flesh.

Adam and Eve did not die in the day that they ate the forbidden fruit, hence, false.
Ross wrote:And is the prologue of John which you earlier rejected false?
Yes, it is!

1. Biblically speaking,

Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.


God was all alone in the beginning of creation contrary to John’s account, which says:

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

2 The same was in the beginning with God.

3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.


The phrase ‘the Word was with God’ is directly contradictory to Gen 1:1-3 and Isaiah 45:12, which says,

Isa 45:12 I have made the earth, and created man upon it: I, even my hands, have stretched out the heavens, and all their host have I commanded.

Note: The Lord Jesus revealed to us that John 1:1 began with the narrative that says,

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JehovahsWitness wrote: Thu Jan 08, 2026 6:58 pm
OneJack wrote: Thu Jan 08, 2026 6:53 pm
JehovahsWitness wrote: Thu Jan 08, 2026 6:04 pm So to sum up , you believe that : some things in the bible are TRUE and that those truths (that we can read in the bible) are the words (the declarations) of the Son/Almignty God ...
Correct!

So is Isaiah 42 verse 8 a true verse or a false verse?
Isa 42:8 I am the Lord: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images.

This verse is true.

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OneJack wrote: Thu Jan 08, 2026 7:37 pm
Isa 42:8 I am the Lord: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images.

This verse is true.
And what was the original name in Hebrew before it was replaced with "The Lord" by many translators?
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JehovahsWitness wrote: Thu Jan 08, 2026 7:40 pm
OneJack wrote: Thu Jan 08, 2026 7:37 pm
Isa 42:8 I am the Lord: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images.

This verse is true.
And what was the original name in Hebrew before it was replaced with "The Lord" by many translators?
I asked the Lord about YHWH and He confirmed that YHWH is His name. Then I further asked, how about Yahweh, Lord? The Lord, again, confirmed Yahweh is His name. I then asked Him about the name Jehovah, but the Lord denies the name Jehovah, saying Jehovah is not my name.

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OneJack wrote: Thu Jan 08, 2026 7:51 pm I asked the Lord about YHWH and He confirmed that YHWH is His name. ...
Let's just stick to the truths in the bible ...(.I haven't confirmed with the Lord if he spoke to you or not) .

So YHWH is what is written and the verse is true. So Almight God confirmed in writing that YHWH is his name. Correct?


Is there another true verse in the bible where He says the four words "that is my name"?
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