Jehovah’s Witnesses and Salvation

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The Jehovah's Witnesses are taught to look to their organization for salvation rather than to Christ Jesus. Their salvation is elusive, works-oriented, and different for the two classes of believers.

See Watchtower, April 1, 1947, page 204: “To get one’s name written in the Book of Life will depend upon one’s works.” Is it any wonder they call themselves slaves in their Bible?

Therefore, every witness must ask themself if they’re good enough to enter Paradise. All their members fall into one of two categories.
1. Those who self-righteously assume that Jehovah will preserve them through Armageddon on account of their good works.
2. Those who know they are sinners unworthy of eternal life.

Those in the flesh cannot please Jehovah. The only ones not in the flesh, and therefore able to please Jehovah, are those who have received the spirit of sonship as fellow heirs with Christ: who would one day be glorified with him.”

Now, the Watchtower teaches that only 144,000 individuals throughout the centuries who receive God’s spirit will become joint heirs with Christ and will end up glorified with him in heaven.

So, it appears that the millions of Witnesses today have no chance of receiving the spirit. Those who are consigned as the “great crowd” of non-spirit-anointed followers to a position where they cannot please God, no matter how hard the work.

My advice: Don’t trust the Watchtower’s invitation to “Come to Jehovah’s organization for salvation.” See Watchtower, November 15, 1981, page 21.

Jesus said, Matthew 11:28, “Come unto me, all you that labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.”
John 6:37, “All that the Father gives me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.”

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He who created the heaven and the earth is God. Even the N.W.T. states that Jesus created all "other" things, Colossians 1:16. And if he created "all other things," he must be Jehovah of Genesis 1:1, "God created the heaven and the earth." The heaven and the earth are all other things. You can't have it both ways.

God created all things through Jesus. It was God's power that he gave to Jesus to do the creating. Jesus couldn't have done anything without the Father's own power and authority, which was allotted to him by the Father.

Jesus as co-creator of man when the Father said, "let us make man in our image. (Gen 1:27)

Yes, exactly.

Would that mean before Jesus emptied Himself the form of God, He had the power to create same with the Father?

Jesus was given the power to create by the Father. They were a team, so to speak, with the power coming from Jehovah to the Son who carried out his Father's will in creating. Jesus was the Father's Master Worker, the "one He was especially fond of day by day, being glad before Him all the time." (Proverbs 8:30)

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God created all things through Jesus. It was God's power that he gave to Jesus to do the creating. Jesus couldn't have done anything without the Father's own power and authority, which was allotted to him by the Father.

Jesus as co-creator of man when the Father said, "let us make man in our image. (Gen 1:27)

Yes, exactly.

Would that mean before Jesus emptied Himself the form of God, He had the power to create same with the Father?

Jesus was given the power to create by the Father. They were a team, so to speak, with the power coming from Jehovah to the Son who carried out his Father's will in creating. Jesus was the Father's Master Worker, the "one He was especially fond of day by day, being glad before Him all the time." (Proverbs 8:30)

I believe your quoted verse through context was when Jesus was already on earth, already emptied Himself the form of God and take the form of a servant in the likeness of man as the verse mentioned "rejoicing in the world, and sons of mankind, listen to me."

Pro 8:30 Then I was beside Him, as a master workman; And I was His delight daily, Rejoicing always before Him,
Pro 8:31 Rejoicing in the world, His earth, And having my delight in the sons of mankind.
Pro 8:32 “Now then, sons, listen to me, For blessed are those who keep my ways.

[onewithhim]

Jesus as co-creator of man when the Father said, "let us make man in our image. (Gen 1:27)

Yes, exactly.

Would that mean before Jesus emptied Himself the form of God, He had the power to create same with the Father?

Jesus was given the power to create by the Father. They were a team, so to speak, with the power coming from Jehovah to the Son who carried out his Father's will in creating. Jesus was the Father's Master Worker, the "one He was especially fond of day by day, being glad before Him all the time." (Proverbs 8:30)

I believe your quoted verse through context was when Jesus was already on earth, already emptied Himself the form of God and take the form of a servant in the likeness of man as the verse mentioned "rejoicing in the world, and sons of mankind, listen to me."

Pro 8:30 Then I was beside Him, as a master workman; And I was His delight daily, Rejoicing always before Him,
Pro 8:31 Rejoicing in the world, His earth, And having my delight in the sons of mankind.
Pro 8:32 “Now then, sons, listen to me, For blessed are those who keep my ways.

No, Jesus wasn't already on Earth when Proverb 8 was written. It speaks of him creating with his Father when the earth was being formed, and it was written several centuries before Jesus came here from heaven. Now, what is your point in quoting Proverb 8:30-32?

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Jesus as co-creator of man when the Father said, "let us make man in our image. (Gen 1:27)

Yes, exactly.

Would that mean before Jesus emptied Himself the form of God, He had the power to create same with the Father?

Jesus was given the power to create by the Father. They were a team, so to speak, with the power coming from Jehovah to the Son who carried out his Father's will in creating. Jesus was the Father's Master Worker, the "one He was especially fond of day by day, being glad before Him all the time." (Proverbs 8:30)

I believe your quoted verse through context was when Jesus was already on earth, already emptied Himself the form of God and take the form of a servant in the likeness of man as the verse mentioned "rejoicing in the world, and sons of mankind, listen to me."

Pro 8:30 Then I was beside Him, as a master workman; And I was His delight daily, Rejoicing always before Him,
Pro 8:31 Rejoicing in the world, His earth, And having my delight in the sons of mankind.
Pro 8:32 “Now then, sons, listen to me, For blessed are those who keep my ways.

There you go, "Master worker." Where do you people get these ridiculous phrases from? Jesus was the Architect of the Creation, the designer. The Holy Spirit was the "Master Worker." Genesis 1:2, "The Job 26:13, "By his Spirit he has garnished (adorned) the heavens; his (the Spirit's) hand has formed the crooked serpent."

Jesus the Creator delights in the sons of man. Man was formed in Jesus' image and his likeness. How much does Jesus' delight in mankind? He gave his life to save us from a trip to the lake of fire. Now, don't say it's the Father's image and likeness; no man knows what the Father's image and likeness are like. Opp's, I forgot, the Watchtower doesn't believe in hell or the lake of fire.

Of all the cults that I have studied, I have never seen so many holes in doctrine that I see coming out of the teachers of the Watchtower. Is it any wonder they had to rewrite the Bible?