Paradise on Earth

[onewithhim]

When I learned that the Bible speaks of a restored Garden of Eden and the restoration of mankind to the perfection and endless life that Adam forfeited, I was thrilled. Who doesn't want to keep living on this beautiful earth, with our loved ones, and being able to do all the things we love to do---endlessly?

If God said to you today, "When do you want to die?" would you say "now!!"? I don't think very many people would say that.

We CAN live forever here on Earth. The Bible tells us that we can.

Matthew 5:5
Psalm 37:9-11,29

[Capbook]

Remember that YOU posted a variation of the particular word to mean "revealed" or "discovered." That is what you posted. So the word does not necessarily mean "burned up."

Another Bible text that speaks about burned with fire, which Louw and Nida Greek-English of the New Testament defined "burned," in Greek "katakai/w " as to destroy something by burning, to burn something down, reduce to ashes, and etc.

I just wonder if fire used for cooking in your kitchen or the recent forest fire in LA cannot do what was defined by Bible lexicon.

Matt 13:40-41
40 "Therefore just as the tares are gathered up and burned with fire, so shall it be at the end of the age.
NASB

NT:2618
katakai/w katapi/mprhmi
to destroy something by burning - 'to burn something down, to burn something up, to reduce to ashes.
(from Greek-English Lexicon Based on Semantic Domain. Copyright © 1988 United Bible Societies, New York. Used by permission.)

You forget the variation that you posted in a previous posting, that means "discovered," or, "revealed."

Yes, some words carry multiple meaning, in this case we aren't having that issue as several Bible text supports the meaning as burn something down/up, and reduce to ashes, and simply solved it with the context.

Then why did you say that "revealed" or "discovered" was an acceptable variation?

If it is solved with the context then we must consider what it says about the heavens. They will never literally be destroyed. Can you see the entire universe being destroyed?? Nonsense. There must be another meaning of the words that you say mean "burned up," or "reduced to ashes." The context begs for the understanding that the heavens and the earth will be revealed as to the wicked forces that exist and will be cleansed of the evil people and what they've done to the earth and its atmosphere.

Peter wrote of the destruction of the "ungodly men." Those will be destroyed. (2Peter 3:7) Not the literal earth.

I don't know how you define universe, to me, it is huge, what we are discussing here only confine to earth and heavens, which I believe where bird flies. Through context below mentions about heavens and its element will be destroyed, earth and its works will burned up and all these things will be destroyed. No mention of being transfigured but God would make all things new, including the heavens and the earth. New heavens and new earth where the Saints would dwell.

2 Peter 3:10-13
10 But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, in which the heavens will pass away with a roar and the elements will be destroyed with intense heat, and the earth and its works will be burned up.
11 Since all these things are to be destroyed in this way, what sort of people ought you to be in holy conduct and godliness,
12 looking for and hastening the coming of the day of God, on account of which the heavens will be destroyed by burning, and the elements will melt with intense heat!
13 But according to His promise we are looking for new heavens and a new earth, in which righteousness dwells.
NASB

[onewithhim]

Another Bible text that speaks about burned with fire, which Louw and Nida Greek-English of the New Testament defined "burned," in Greek "katakai/w " as to destroy something by burning, to burn something down, reduce to ashes, and etc.

I just wonder if fire used for cooking in your kitchen or the recent forest fire in LA cannot do what was defined by Bible lexicon.

Matt 13:40-41
40 "Therefore just as the tares are gathered up and burned with fire, so shall it be at the end of the age.
NASB

NT:2618
katakai/w katapi/mprhmi
to destroy something by burning - 'to burn something down, to burn something up, to reduce to ashes.
(from Greek-English Lexicon Based on Semantic Domain. Copyright © 1988 United Bible Societies, New York. Used by permission.)

You forget the variation that you posted in a previous posting, that means "discovered," or, "revealed."

Yes, some words carry multiple meaning, in this case we aren't having that issue as several Bible text supports the meaning as burn something down/up, and reduce to ashes, and simply solved it with the context.

Then why did you say that "revealed" or "discovered" was an acceptable variation?

If it is solved with the context then we must consider what it says about the heavens. They will never literally be destroyed. Can you see the entire universe being destroyed?? Nonsense. There must be another meaning of the words that you say mean "burned up," or "reduced to ashes." The context begs for the understanding that the heavens and the earth will be revealed as to the wicked forces that exist and will be cleansed of the evil people and what they've done to the earth and its atmosphere.

Peter wrote of the destruction of the "ungodly men." Those will be destroyed. (2Peter 3:7) Not the literal earth.

I don't know how you define universe, to me, it is huge, what we are discussing here only confine to earth and heavens, which I believe where bird flies. Through context below mentions about heavens and its element will be destroyed, earth and its works will burned up and all these things will be destroyed. No mention of being transfigured but God would make all things new, including the heavens and the earth. New heavens and new earth where the Saints would dwell.

2 Peter 3:10-13
10 But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, in which the heavens will pass away with a roar and the elements will be destroyed with intense heat, and the earth and its works will be burned up.
11 Since all these things are to be destroyed in this way, what sort of people ought you to be in holy conduct and godliness,
12 looking for and hastening the coming of the day of God, on account of which the heavens will be destroyed by burning, and the elements will melt with intense heat!
13 But according to His promise we are looking for new heavens and a new earth, in which righteousness dwells.
NASB

Let's agree to disagree.

I can't believe that anyone would think that God will literally destroy the earth and start over again. There is nothing wrong with this earth. It will simply be cleaned up, and it will go back to the state of being that Adam was supposed to take care of.

[Capbook]

You forget the variation that you posted in a previous posting, that means "discovered," or, "revealed."

Yes, some words carry multiple meaning, in this case we aren't having that issue as several Bible text supports the meaning as burn something down/up, and reduce to ashes, and simply solved it with the context.

Then why did you say that "revealed" or "discovered" was an acceptable variation?

If it is solved with the context then we must consider what it says about the heavens. They will never literally be destroyed. Can you see the entire universe being destroyed?? Nonsense. There must be another meaning of the words that you say mean "burned up," or "reduced to ashes." The context begs for the understanding that the heavens and the earth will be revealed as to the wicked forces that exist and will be cleansed of the evil people and what they've done to the earth and its atmosphere.

Peter wrote of the destruction of the "ungodly men." Those will be destroyed. (2Peter 3:7) Not the literal earth.

I don't know how you define universe, to me, it is huge, what we are discussing here only confine to earth and heavens, which I believe where bird flies. Through context below mentions about heavens and its element will be destroyed, earth and its works will burned up and all these things will be destroyed. No mention of being transfigured but God would make all things new, including the heavens and the earth. New heavens and new earth where the Saints would dwell.

2 Peter 3:10-13
10 But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, in which the heavens will pass away with a roar and the elements will be destroyed with intense heat, and the earth and its works will be burned up.
11 Since all these things are to be destroyed in this way, what sort of people ought you to be in holy conduct and godliness,
12 looking for and hastening the coming of the day of God, on account of which the heavens will be destroyed by burning, and the elements will melt with intense heat!
13 But according to His promise we are looking for new heavens and a new earth, in which righteousness dwells.
NASB

Let's agree to disagree.

I can't believe that anyone would think that God will literally destroy the earth and start over again. There is nothing wrong with this earth. It will simply be cleaned up, and it will go back to the state of being that Adam was supposed to take care of.

Well, as the Word of God speaks of a fire that burned things and put to ashes, I believe it's the same with fire in our kitchen used for cooking. Cleaned up from ashes to me it is to make it as new heavens and new earth. I think we can agree with that.

[onewithhim]

Yes, some words carry multiple meaning, in this case we aren't having that issue as several Bible text supports the meaning as burn something down/up, and reduce to ashes, and simply solved it with the context.

Then why did you say that "revealed" or "discovered" was an acceptable variation?

If it is solved with the context then we must consider what it says about the heavens. They will never literally be destroyed. Can you see the entire universe being destroyed?? Nonsense. There must be another meaning of the words that you say mean "burned up," or "reduced to ashes." The context begs for the understanding that the heavens and the earth will be revealed as to the wicked forces that exist and will be cleansed of the evil people and what they've done to the earth and its atmosphere.

Peter wrote of the destruction of the "ungodly men." Those will be destroyed. (2Peter 3:7) Not the literal earth.

I don't know how you define universe, to me, it is huge, what we are discussing here only confine to earth and heavens, which I believe where bird flies. Through context below mentions about heavens and its element will be destroyed, earth and its works will burned up and all these things will be destroyed. No mention of being transfigured but God would make all things new, including the heavens and the earth. New heavens and new earth where the Saints would dwell.

2 Peter 3:10-13
10 But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, in which the heavens will pass away with a roar and the elements will be destroyed with intense heat, and the earth and its works will be burned up.
11 Since all these things are to be destroyed in this way, what sort of people ought you to be in holy conduct and godliness,
12 looking for and hastening the coming of the day of God, on account of which the heavens will be destroyed by burning, and the elements will melt with intense heat!
13 But according to His promise we are looking for new heavens and a new earth, in which righteousness dwells.
NASB

Let's agree to disagree.

I can't believe that anyone would think that God will literally destroy the earth and start over again. There is nothing wrong with this earth. It will simply be cleaned up, and it will go back to the state of being that Adam was supposed to take care of.

Well, as the Word of God speaks of a fire that burned things and put to ashes, I believe it's the same with fire in our kitchen used for cooking. Cleaned up from ashes to me it is to make it as new heavens and new earth. I think we can agree with that.

No, the heavens and earth as they will be will be a cleaned-up earth with all wickedness and ungodly people gone so that the planet can rejuvenate itself with the help of all righteous people that will survive Armageddon. The ashes thing is not accurate. The one revision that you agreed could be the case is that the earth and the things in it will be "revealed" and it is a metaphor to say that the elements will "melt." The same thing was said in the day of Joel when he said that there would be signs in the sun, moon and stars turning to darkness and blood, and this was fulfilled in the day that the disciples were visited by the Holy Spirit landing on their heads as tongues of fire, at Pentecost on 33 AD. (Joel 2: 30,31) Did the sun turn into darkness or the moon literally turn into blood? No, it's all metaphorical, and so is 2 Peter 3:10,12.

[Capbook]

Then why did you say that "revealed" or "discovered" was an acceptable variation?

If it is solved with the context then we must consider what it says about the heavens. They will never literally be destroyed. Can you see the entire universe being destroyed?? Nonsense. There must be another meaning of the words that you say mean "burned up," or "reduced to ashes." The context begs for the understanding that the heavens and the earth will be revealed as to the wicked forces that exist and will be cleansed of the evil people and what they've done to the earth and its atmosphere.

Peter wrote of the destruction of the "ungodly men." Those will be destroyed. (2Peter 3:7) Not the literal earth.

I don't know how you define universe, to me, it is huge, what we are discussing here only confine to earth and heavens, which I believe where bird flies. Through context below mentions about heavens and its element will be destroyed, earth and its works will burned up and all these things will be destroyed. No mention of being transfigured but God would make all things new, including the heavens and the earth. New heavens and new earth where the Saints would dwell.

2 Peter 3:10-13
10 But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, in which the heavens will pass away with a roar and the elements will be destroyed with intense heat, and the earth and its works will be burned up.
11 Since all these things are to be destroyed in this way, what sort of people ought you to be in holy conduct and godliness,
12 looking for and hastening the coming of the day of God, on account of which the heavens will be destroyed by burning, and the elements will melt with intense heat!
13 But according to His promise we are looking for new heavens and a new earth, in which righteousness dwells.
NASB

Let's agree to disagree.

I can't believe that anyone would think that God will literally destroy the earth and start over again. There is nothing wrong with this earth. It will simply be cleaned up, and it will go back to the state of being that Adam was supposed to take care of.

Well, as the Word of God speaks of a fire that burned things and put to ashes, I believe it's the same with fire in our kitchen used for cooking. Cleaned up from ashes to me it is to make it as new heavens and new earth. I think we can agree with that.

No, the heavens and earth as they will be will be a cleaned-up earth with all wickedness and ungodly people gone so that the planet can rejuvenate itself with the help of all righteous people that will survive Armageddon. The ashes thing is not accurate. The one revision that you agreed could be the case is that the earth and the things in it will be "revealed" and it is a metaphor to say that the elements will "melt." The same thing was said in the day of Joel when he said that there would be signs in the sun, moon and stars turning to darkness and blood, and this was fulfilled in the day that the disciples were visited by the Holy Spirit landing on their heads as tongues of fire, at Pentecost on 33 AD. (Joel 2: 30,31) Did the sun turn into darkness or the moon literally turn into blood? No, it's all metaphorical, and so is 2 Peter 3:10,12.

What Bible translations you based your point, where instead of "new heavens and new earth" became "cleaned up earth"? I believe you would agree with me that Sodom and Gomorrah were part of the earth. It was destroyed by fire and being reduced to ashes. Same author said it, and clearly a literal definition of ashes from Bible lexicon below.(2 Peter 2:6), I noticed JW are not keen on consulting Bible lexicons, we will not know Bible words what it means at the time it was used. We will be also at the mercy from those who teach us that does not know also what it really means.

Louw and Nida Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament define "ashes" in Greek "tefrosas" as 'to reduce to ashes' as 'to burn up completely' or 'to destroy by fire and leave only ashes.'

2 Peter 2:6
6 and if He condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah to destruction by reducing them to ashes, having made them an example to those who would live ungodly thereafter;

NT:5077
'ashes,' to destroy by reducing something to ashes - 'to reduce to ashes.'
'(God) condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah to destruction, reducing them to ashes' 2 Peter 2:6. It is possible to render 'to reduce to ashes' as 'to burn up completely' or 'to destroy by fire and leave only ashes.'
(from Greek-English Lexicon Based on Semantic Domain. Copyright © 1988 United Bible Societies, New York. Used by permission.)

[onewithhim]

I don't know how you define universe, to me, it is huge, what we are discussing here only confine to earth and heavens, which I believe where bird flies. Through context below mentions about heavens and its element will be destroyed, earth and its works will burned up and all these things will be destroyed. No mention of being transfigured but God would make all things new, including the heavens and the earth. New heavens and new earth where the Saints would dwell.

2 Peter 3:10-13
10 But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, in which the heavens will pass away with a roar and the elements will be destroyed with intense heat, and the earth and its works will be burned up.
11 Since all these things are to be destroyed in this way, what sort of people ought you to be in holy conduct and godliness,
12 looking for and hastening the coming of the day of God, on account of which the heavens will be destroyed by burning, and the elements will melt with intense heat!
13 But according to His promise we are looking for new heavens and a new earth, in which righteousness dwells.
NASB

Let's agree to disagree.

I can't believe that anyone would think that God will literally destroy the earth and start over again. There is nothing wrong with this earth. It will simply be cleaned up, and it will go back to the state of being that Adam was supposed to take care of.

Well, as the Word of God speaks of a fire that burned things and put to ashes, I believe it's the same with fire in our kitchen used for cooking. Cleaned up from ashes to me it is to make it as new heavens and new earth. I think we can agree with that.

No, the heavens and earth as they will be will be a cleaned-up earth with all wickedness and ungodly people gone so that the planet can rejuvenate itself with the help of all righteous people that will survive Armageddon. The ashes thing is not accurate. The one revision that you agreed could be the case is that the earth and the things in it will be "revealed" and it is a metaphor to say that the elements will "melt." The same thing was said in the day of Joel when he said that there would be signs in the sun, moon and stars turning to darkness and blood, and this was fulfilled in the day that the disciples were visited by the Holy Spirit landing on their heads as tongues of fire, at Pentecost on 33 AD. (Joel 2: 30,31) Did the sun turn into darkness or the moon literally turn into blood? No, it's all metaphorical, and so is 2 Peter 3:10,12.

What Bible translations you based your point, where instead of "new heavens and new earth" became "cleaned up earth"? I believe you would agree with me that Sodom and Gomorrah were part of the earth. It was destroyed by fire and being reduced to ashes. Same author said it, and clearly a literal definition of ashes from Bible lexicon below.(2 Peter 2:6), I noticed JW are not keen on consulting Bible lexicons, we will not know Bible words what it means at the time it was used. We will be also at the mercy from those who teach us that does not know also what it really means.

Louw and Nida Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament define "ashes" in Greek "tefrosas" as 'to reduce to ashes' as 'to burn up completely' or 'to destroy by fire and leave only ashes.'

2 Peter 2:6
6 and if He condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah to destruction by reducing them to ashes, having made them an example to those who would live ungodly thereafter;

NT:5077
'ashes,' to destroy by reducing something to ashes - 'to reduce to ashes.'
'(God) condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah to destruction, reducing them to ashes' 2 Peter 2:6. It is possible to render 'to reduce to ashes' as 'to burn up completely' or 'to destroy by fire and leave only ashes.'
(from Greek-English Lexicon Based on Semantic Domain. Copyright © 1988 United Bible Societies, New York. Used by permission.)

You said awhile back that "discovered" or "revealed" are other acceptable variations for the word being discussed. It doesn't have to mean burned up. You posted it yourself.

[Capbook]

Let's agree to disagree.

I can't believe that anyone would think that God will literally destroy the earth and start over again. There is nothing wrong with this earth. It will simply be cleaned up, and it will go back to the state of being that Adam was supposed to take care of.

Well, as the Word of God speaks of a fire that burned things and put to ashes, I believe it's the same with fire in our kitchen used for cooking. Cleaned up from ashes to me it is to make it as new heavens and new earth. I think we can agree with that.

No, the heavens and earth as they will be will be a cleaned-up earth with all wickedness and ungodly people gone so that the planet can rejuvenate itself with the help of all righteous people that will survive Armageddon. The ashes thing is not accurate. The one revision that you agreed could be the case is that the earth and the things in it will be "revealed" and it is a metaphor to say that the elements will "melt." The same thing was said in the day of Joel when he said that there would be signs in the sun, moon and stars turning to darkness and blood, and this was fulfilled in the day that the disciples were visited by the Holy Spirit landing on their heads as tongues of fire, at Pentecost on 33 AD. (Joel 2: 30,31) Did the sun turn into darkness or the moon literally turn into blood? No, it's all metaphorical, and so is 2 Peter 3:10,12.

What Bible translations you based your point, where instead of "new heavens and new earth" became "cleaned up earth"? I believe you would agree with me that Sodom and Gomorrah were part of the earth. It was destroyed by fire and being reduced to ashes. Same author said it, and clearly a literal definition of ashes from Bible lexicon below.(2 Peter 2:6), I noticed JW are not keen on consulting Bible lexicons, we will not know Bible words what it means at the time it was used. We will be also at the mercy from those who teach us that does not know also what it really means.

Louw and Nida Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament define "ashes" in Greek "tefrosas" as 'to reduce to ashes' as 'to burn up completely' or 'to destroy by fire and leave only ashes.'

2 Peter 2:6
6 and if He condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah to destruction by reducing them to ashes, having made them an example to those who would live ungodly thereafter;

NT:5077
'ashes,' to destroy by reducing something to ashes - 'to reduce to ashes.'
'(God) condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah to destruction, reducing them to ashes' 2 Peter 2:6. It is possible to render 'to reduce to ashes' as 'to burn up completely' or 'to destroy by fire and leave only ashes.'
(from Greek-English Lexicon Based on Semantic Domain. Copyright © 1988 United Bible Societies, New York. Used by permission.)

You said awhile back that "discovered" or "revealed" are other acceptable variations for the word being discussed. It doesn't have to mean burned up. You posted it yourself.

As Bible definition of "burned up" still confused you applying to context, the Bible word "ashes" will confirmed that fire, burned up and others are literal.
We have to consult Bible lexicons once in a while to understand fully what the context and Bible words means.

[onewithhim]

Well, as the Word of God speaks of a fire that burned things and put to ashes, I believe it's the same with fire in our kitchen used for cooking. Cleaned up from ashes to me it is to make it as new heavens and new earth. I think we can agree with that.

No, the heavens and earth as they will be will be a cleaned-up earth with all wickedness and ungodly people gone so that the planet can rejuvenate itself with the help of all righteous people that will survive Armageddon. The ashes thing is not accurate. The one revision that you agreed could be the case is that the earth and the things in it will be "revealed" and it is a metaphor to say that the elements will "melt." The same thing was said in the day of Joel when he said that there would be signs in the sun, moon and stars turning to darkness and blood, and this was fulfilled in the day that the disciples were visited by the Holy Spirit landing on their heads as tongues of fire, at Pentecost on 33 AD. (Joel 2: 30,31) Did the sun turn into darkness or the moon literally turn into blood? No, it's all metaphorical, and so is 2 Peter 3:10,12.

What Bible translations you based your point, where instead of "new heavens and new earth" became "cleaned up earth"? I believe you would agree with me that Sodom and Gomorrah were part of the earth. It was destroyed by fire and being reduced to ashes. Same author said it, and clearly a literal definition of ashes from Bible lexicon below.(2 Peter 2:6), I noticed JW are not keen on consulting Bible lexicons, we will not know Bible words what it means at the time it was used. We will be also at the mercy from those who teach us that does not know also what it really means.

Louw and Nida Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament define "ashes" in Greek "tefrosas" as 'to reduce to ashes' as 'to burn up completely' or 'to destroy by fire and leave only ashes.'

2 Peter 2:6
6 and if He condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah to destruction by reducing them to ashes, having made them an example to those who would live ungodly thereafter;

NT:5077
'ashes,' to destroy by reducing something to ashes - 'to reduce to ashes.'
'(God) condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah to destruction, reducing them to ashes' 2 Peter 2:6. It is possible to render 'to reduce to ashes' as 'to burn up completely' or 'to destroy by fire and leave only ashes.'
(from Greek-English Lexicon Based on Semantic Domain. Copyright © 1988 United Bible Societies, New York. Used by permission.)

You said awhile back that "discovered" or "revealed" are other acceptable variations for the word being discussed. It doesn't have to mean burned up. You posted it yourself.

As Bible definition of "burned up" still confused you applying to context, the Bible word "ashes" will confirmed that fire, burned up and others are literal.
We have to consult Bible lexicons once in a while to understand fully what the context and Bible words means.

But didn't you find the acceptable variation "revealed" or "discovered" in one of your lexicons?

[Capbook]

No, the heavens and earth as they will be will be a cleaned-up earth with all wickedness and ungodly people gone so that the planet can rejuvenate itself with the help of all righteous people that will survive Armageddon. The ashes thing is not accurate. The one revision that you agreed could be the case is that the earth and the things in it will be "revealed" and it is a metaphor to say that the elements will "melt." The same thing was said in the day of Joel when he said that there would be signs in the sun, moon and stars turning to darkness and blood, and this was fulfilled in the day that the disciples were visited by the Holy Spirit landing on their heads as tongues of fire, at Pentecost on 33 AD. (Joel 2: 30,31) Did the sun turn into darkness or the moon literally turn into blood? No, it's all metaphorical, and so is 2 Peter 3:10,12.

What Bible translations you based your point, where instead of "new heavens and new earth" became "cleaned up earth"? I believe you would agree with me that Sodom and Gomorrah were part of the earth. It was destroyed by fire and being reduced to ashes. Same author said it, and clearly a literal definition of ashes from Bible lexicon below.(2 Peter 2:6), I noticed JW are not keen on consulting Bible lexicons, we will not know Bible words what it means at the time it was used. We will be also at the mercy from those who teach us that does not know also what it really means.

Louw and Nida Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament define "ashes" in Greek "tefrosas" as 'to reduce to ashes' as 'to burn up completely' or 'to destroy by fire and leave only ashes.'

2 Peter 2:6
6 and if He condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah to destruction by reducing them to ashes, having made them an example to those who would live ungodly thereafter;

NT:5077
'ashes,' to destroy by reducing something to ashes - 'to reduce to ashes.'
'(God) condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah to destruction, reducing them to ashes' 2 Peter 2:6. It is possible to render 'to reduce to ashes' as 'to burn up completely' or 'to destroy by fire and leave only ashes.'
(from Greek-English Lexicon Based on Semantic Domain. Copyright © 1988 United Bible Societies, New York. Used by permission.)

You said awhile back that "discovered" or "revealed" are other acceptable variations for the word being discussed. It doesn't have to mean burned up. You posted it yourself.

As Bible definition of "burned up" still confused you applying to context, the Bible word "ashes" will confirmed that fire, burned up and others are literal.
We have to consult Bible lexicons once in a while to understand fully what the context and Bible words means.

But didn't you find the acceptable variation "revealed" or "discovered" in one of your lexicons?

I think you are confused about "burned up" and "ashes".
What you said about "revealed or discovered" is one of the definition of "burned up."
What the Bible lexicon recently defined as literal as "to reduce to ashes' as 'to burn up completely' or 'to destroy by fire and leave only ashes" is the word "ashes" not "burned up". Hope you get it now.

[onewithhim]

What Bible translations you based your point, where instead of "new heavens and new earth" became "cleaned up earth"? I believe you would agree with me that Sodom and Gomorrah were part of the earth. It was destroyed by fire and being reduced to ashes. Same author said it, and clearly a literal definition of ashes from Bible lexicon below.(2 Peter 2:6), I noticed JW are not keen on consulting Bible lexicons, we will not know Bible words what it means at the time it was used. We will be also at the mercy from those who teach us that does not know also what it really means.

Louw and Nida Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament define "ashes" in Greek "tefrosas" as 'to reduce to ashes' as 'to burn up completely' or 'to destroy by fire and leave only ashes.'

2 Peter 2:6
6 and if He condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah to destruction by reducing them to ashes, having made them an example to those who would live ungodly thereafter;

NT:5077
'ashes,' to destroy by reducing something to ashes - 'to reduce to ashes.'
'(God) condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah to destruction, reducing them to ashes' 2 Peter 2:6. It is possible to render 'to reduce to ashes' as 'to burn up completely' or 'to destroy by fire and leave only ashes.'
(from Greek-English Lexicon Based on Semantic Domain. Copyright © 1988 United Bible Societies, New York. Used by permission.)

You said awhile back that "discovered" or "revealed" are other acceptable variations for the word being discussed. It doesn't have to mean burned up. You posted it yourself.

As Bible definition of "burned up" still confused you applying to context, the Bible word "ashes" will confirmed that fire, burned up and others are literal.
We have to consult Bible lexicons once in a while to understand fully what the context and Bible words means.

But didn't you find the acceptable variation "revealed" or "discovered" in one of your lexicons?

I think you are confused about "burned up" and "ashes".
What you said about "revealed or discovered" is one of the definition of "burned up."
What the Bible lexicon recently defined as literal as "to reduce to ashes' as 'to burn up completely' or 'to destroy by fire and leave only ashes" is the word "ashes" not "burned up". Hope you get it now.

You are confusing the issue. The Greek word that is translated as "burned up" is also translated as "revealed" or "discovered." There is more than one way to translate that word. You agreed that the latter words, "revealed" or "discovered" are acceptable, in a previous post. Your Bible lexicon most probably is defining the English word "burned," [up] not the original Greek word. I hope you get it now.