Christianity cherry-picked from the 613 Mosaic laws

[oldbadger]

Christianity cherry-picked from the 613 Mosaic laws

It most certainly did!
Would anybody like to challenge that ?

[oldbadger]

The question is irrelevant to my point which was challenging any claim to so called "inhumanity" in the mosaic law. Your request is denied.

The question was very relevant, JW.
You just didn't want to answer.

So you claim, however you have provided no proof or argumentation to support this claim. I invite you to do do , makeibg direct mention of "inhumanity/inhumane".

So you demand to see either of those two words? Let me reply that inhumanity is a decision that any people can make without your rules.

Leviticus 20,10. Adultery = stoning
Lev 20,13. Homosexuality = death
Lev 20,27. Spiritual seances = stoning
Lev 34,23 Blasphemy = stoning.

Some actions even attract sentences of burning! 20,14.

Are you telling me that these sentences are not inhumane? Are you?

[JehovahsWitness]

Leviticus 20,10. Adultery = stoning
Lev 20,13. Homosexuality = death
Lev 20,27. Spiritual seances = stoning
Lev 34,23 Blasphemy = stoning.

Some actions even attract sentences of burning! 20,14.

Are you telling me that these sentences are not inhumane? Are you?

If you are refering to the sentences (laws) in the bible , then yes that is exactly what I'm saying. Would you like to present argumentation that they are? ("These laws are inhumane because ...")



JW

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THE MOSAIC LAW, CONTROVERSAL MANDATES and ...ABOLITION

[oldbadger]

Leviticus 20,10. Adultery = stoning
Lev 20,13. Homosexuality = death
Lev 20,27. Spiritual seances = stoning
Lev 34,23 Blasphemy = stoning.

Some actions even attract sentences of burning! 20,14.

Are you telling me that these sentences are not inhumane? Are you?

If you are refering to the sentences (laws) in the bible , then yes that is exactly what I'm saying. Would you like to present argumentation that they are? ("These laws are inhumane because ...")

JW

Amazing!
3-4 thousand years after the time that these laws were written, you a Jehovah Witness writes that the Mosaic sentences shown above are not inhumane.
Are you sure?

Don't forget that flogging or beating for many offences can also be the sentence.

I don't think that the general public need proof that 'flogging or execution including by burning' for so many offences which include misdemeanours and civil offences today are inhumane.

I think that even a majority of your congregations would stand up against such sentences.

[JehovahsWitness]

Leviticus 20,10. Adultery = stoning
Lev 20,13. Homosexuality = death
Lev 20,27. Spiritual seances = stoning
Lev 34,23 Blasphemy = stoning.

Some actions even attract sentences of burning! 20,14.

Are you telling me that these sentences are not inhumane? Are you?

If you are refering to the sentences (laws) in the bible , then yes that is exactly what I'm saying. Would you like to present argumentation that they are? ("These laws are inhumane because ...")

JW

Amazing!

I cannot debate your feelings and your amazement does not amount to reason or argumentation. Would you like to try again or shall we call it a day ?

• These laws are inhumane because ...

[oldbadger]

I cannot debate your feelings and your amazement does not amount to reason or argumentation. Would you like to try again or shall we call it a day ?

• These laws are inhumane because ...

Inhumanity is decided by the majority, and flogging people with up to forty lashes will certainly gain the 'inhumanity' vote.
As for execution by stoning or on flames, guess what vote will be?

Do you get the reasoning? Mostly everybody else will

[JehovahsWitness]

I cannot debate your feelings and your amazement does not amount to reason or argumentation. Would you like to try again or shall we call it a day ?

• These laws are inhumane because ...

Inhumanity is decided by the majority...

Not according to the bible: scripturally it is God that decides what is to be considered "inhumane" (extremely cruel and brutal behaviour) not a majority of imperfect humans. After all Jesus himself was found guilty or blasphemy and executed on a majority vote, illustrating the majority can be wrong.

If your only reason to deem someting "inhumane" is that it reflects the majority view, then you'd best hope the Nazis don't populatity.

JW

[oldbadger]

Not according to the bible:
JW

I believe that men wrote every book in the bible.

Your one-liner about majorities voting for Nazis doesn't help you because it was majorities that put them down.....not your God.

I think that the Mosaic laws were brilliant in their time and under those conditions but I most certainly believe that very clever people wrote them down.

[Difflugia]

Inhumanity is decided by the majority,

I'm not sure that's true. If we regard "humanity" in this context as a sense of compassion and empathy as opposed to cruelty, then the punishments are selected specifically for inhumanity and its deterrent value. Deciding that the cost-value tradeoff of inhumanity vs. altered social behavior is justified isn't the same as claiming that the punishments aren't inhuman.

scripturally it is God that decides what is to be considered "inhumane" (extremely cruel and brutal behaviour) not a majority of imperfect humans.

Once again, you're confusing a theological judgement with being scriptural. Can you find some scriptural passage that shows that it's up to God to decide what "inhumane" means? There are many verses about God wreaking vengeance and other cruelty onto people and calling it just, but I don't see anything where such behavior is described by God as being either humane or inhumane.

[JehovahsWitness]

Not according to the bible:
JW

I believe that men wrote every book in the bible.

I dont recall asking you what you believe, but thanks for sharing. Anyway if you believe something is right or wrong not from whether it is beneficial, wholesome and /or protective but from whether it is popular you have at least finally communicated that.

Have a most excellent day,


JEHOVAH'S WITNESS

[oldbadger]

Inhumanity is decided by the majority,

I'm not sure that's true. If we regard "humanity" in this context as a sense of compassion and empathy as opposed to cruelty, then the punishments are selected specifically for inhumanity and its deterrent value. Deciding that the cost-value tradeoff of inhumanity vs. altered social behavior is justified isn't the same ..........

I'm sad to say that I think it is.
Although your perception of inhumanity might differ from another culture's, the opinions of the people around where you live will decide upon this question.

Our UK judicial system does it's best to apply rehabilitation to sentences rather than revenge, for example.