Christianity cherry-picked from the 613 Mosaic laws

[oldbadger]

Christianity cherry-picked from the 613 Mosaic laws

It most certainly did!
Would anybody like to challenge that ?

[TRANSPONDER]

There are no inhumane laws in the Mosaic law code

Those laws were perfect for situations in their day, thousands of years ago.

There is no time in which inhumanity is appropriate, much less "perfect" ...so you were wrong to label any of them inhumane.

... I can think of several that ... inhumane

JW

Then you are giving slavery a pass either as God had to go along with human preferences (which is laghable), or it is ok now as it was then, which is reprehensible.

Which I will assert is what Christianity, the Bible and religion in general, is, and is why we need a humanist world where religion is treated like Sci Fi and fgantasy conventions; fine, so long as it is kept indoors.

[oldbadger]

Then you are giving slavery a pass either as God had to go along with human preferences (which is laghable), or it is ok now as it was then, which is reprehensible.

Which I will assert is what Christianity, the Bible and religion in general, is, and is why we need a humanist world where religion is treated like Sci Fi and fgantasy conventions; fine, so long as it is kept indoors.

Trouble is, new secular religions are rising up that may be harder to put down. One notable example being 'academic elitism', which has it's own prophets and taboos.

Where I live millions of working people keep slogging away, day by day, and they will never earn enough to free themselves from the yoke of poverty....a small home being far beyond their abilities to purchase, yet their rent is higher than a mortgage. And they sure get bullied by their bosses. Slavery.

[TRANSPONDER]

Then you are giving slavery a pass either as God had to go along with human preferences (which is laghable), or it is ok now as it was then, which is reprehensible.

Which I will assert is what Christianity, the Bible and religion in general, is, and is why we need a humanist world where religion is treated like Sci Fi and fgantasy conventions; fine, so long as it is kept indoors.

Trouble is, new secular religions are rising up that may be harder to put down. One notable example being 'academic elitism', which has it's own prophets and taboos.

Where I live millions of working people keep slogging away, day by day, and they will never earn enough to free themselves from the yoke of poverty....a small home being far beyond their abilities to purchase, yet their rent is higher than a mortgage. And they sure get bullied by their bosses. Slavery.

That is a political/social problem, and is irrelevant to the Religion /secularism debate.

Apart from arguing that Religion is not good when it gets political. The only argument that really matters is whether (on evidence) religion is true. If not, it would not be good for us even if it did make people behave better, which seems to be sometimes and sometimes not.

I know about boss bullying. I've been a boss. I have seen it first hand. I also know that secularist, progressive and indeed liberal though at least looks at workplace bullying and religion rather brushes it aside as character building, the way things are and the fault of humans, anyway, so why try to make things better? Aside, it is interfering with God's plan.

No, human morality, society and politics is not grist to the Religious mill, never mind theist.

[JehovahsWitness]

There is no time in which inhumanity is appropriate, much less "perfect" ...so you were wrong to label any of them inhumane.

JW

In a JW world (where a majority of citizens are JWs) the Mosaic laws could be introduced, in which case there would be lots of inhumane laws at that time.

No?

What part if there is nothing inhumane about the Mosaic law are you having trouble understanding? You may challenge me if you feel inclined or ignore my post snd go happily on your way but asking a question based on a false premise is circular.

JW

[oldbadger]

That is a political/social problem, and is irrelevant to the Religion /secularism debate.

But I think it is.

[oldbadger]

There is no time in which inhumanity is appropriate, much less "perfect" ...so you were wrong to label any of them inhumane.

JW

In a JW world (where a majority of citizens are JWs) the Mosaic laws could be introduced, in which case there would be lots of inhumane laws at that time.

No?

What part if there is nothing inhumane about the Mosaic law are you having trouble understanding? You may challenge me if you feel inclined or ignore my post snd go happily on your way but asking a question based on a false premise is circular.

JW

Ignore your post? I read your post.
Nothing nothing false about my question.
In a JW World I think that Mosaic law would apply........ True? False?

If Mosaic law would apply then what would court's sentence polyamorists or polygamists to? I would like an answer to that please.

[JehovahsWitness]

There is no time in which inhumanity is appropriate, much less "perfect" ...so you were wrong to label any of them inhumane.

JW

In a JW world (where a majority of citizens are JWs) the Mosaic laws could be introduced, in which case there would be lots of inhumane laws at that time.

No?

What part if there is nothing inhumane about the Mosaic law are you having trouble understanding? ...
JW

...In a JW World I think that Mosaic law would apply........ True? False? If Mosaic law would apply then what would court's sentence polyamorists or polygamists to? I would like an answer to that please.

The question is irrelevant to my point which was challenging any claim to so called "inhumanity" in the mosaic law. Your request is denied.

[oldbadger]

The question is irrelevant to my point which was challenging any claim to so called "inhumanity" in the mosaic law. Your request is denied.

The question was very relevant, JW.
You just didn't want to answer.

[TRANSPONDER]

That is a political/social problem, and is irrelevant to the Religion /secularism debate.

But I think it is.

Ok. You can post what you think matters, so long as the mods are ok with it; and I don't police you. I'm just saying that i won't pursue a discussion that doesn't seem to be relevant to the religion debate. Of course I'm aware that in the US particularly, religion/Morality and politics/society are now combined in religio -political sect.

There is no time in which inhumanity is appropriate, much less "perfect" ...so you were wrong to label any of them inhumane.

JW

In a JW world (where a majority of citizens are JWs) the Mosaic laws could be introduced, in which case there would be lots of inhumane laws at that time.

No?

What part if there is nothing inhumane about the Mosaic law are you having trouble understanding? You may challenge me if you feel inclined or ignore my post and go happily on your way but asking a question based on a false premise is circular.

JW

We have seen problems with gender, race and what we might call information issues. Not food laws as Christianity cherry picked what of the Mosaic law it wanted back in Paul's time. But we do not want a return of religious law based on Some OT laws when even Judaism itself cherry picks which of the OT laws and rules it follows.

There is no time in which inhumanity is appropriate, much less "perfect" ...so you were wrong to label any of them inhumane.

JW

In a JW world (where a majority of citizens are JWs) the Mosaic laws could be introduced, in which case there would be lots of inhumane laws at that time.

No?

What part if there is nothing inhumane about the Mosaic law are you having trouble understanding? ...
JW

...In a JW World I think that Mosaic law would apply........ True? False? If Mosaic law would apply then what would court's sentence polyamorists or polygamists to? I would like an answer to that please.

The question is irrelevant to my point which was challenging any claim to so called "inhumanity" in the mosaic law. Your request is denied.

I think I just answered that. The OT has been used to prop up inhumane practices. The practices are (or were) omitted from society, so if we are to cherry pick what we consider good or bad, then it is our considerations that are relevant not an old book, which we cherry - pick as we like.

a poster on my Other board (before i came here) asked why it wasn't a good thing to pick from the Bible what is good and ignore what is bad. I give the same answer - if we are using human morality to select what is good from the Bible, we don't need the Bible.

[JehovahsWitness]

The question is irrelevant to my point which was challenging any claim to so called "inhumanity" in the mosaic law. Your request is denied.

The question was very relevant, JW.
You just didn't want to answer.

So you claim, however you have provided no proof or argumentation to support this claim. I invite you to do so , making direct mention of "inhumanity/inhumane".