JESUS IS NOT GOD

[onewithhim]

I would very much like to get opinions on this subject. I'll provide several verses from the King James Version of the Bible, and I ask you to give me feed-back.


Jesus' words:

1) "Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise." (John 5:19)

2) "My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me." (John 7:16)

3) "Neither came I of myself, but he sent me." (John 8:42)

He replied, after the Pharisees accused him of making himself God:
4) "Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the SON of God?" (John 10:36)

5) "For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say....Whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak." (John 12:49,50)

6) To his Father in prayer: "And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God , and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent." (John 17:3)

7) "I ascend unto my Father, and your Father, and to my God, and your God." (John 20:17)

To John in the Revelation:
8) "Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God..." (Revelation 3:12)



Do these quotations show that Jesus was NOT God?

Do YOU believe that he claimed to be God?

[Capbook]

Though you did not address ...

I addressed everything that was relevant to the point being made.


Be blessed,

JEHOVAH'S WITNESS

I made a point that Jesus Christ is mentioned in Greek in 1John 5:20, also you did not address.

[JehovahsWitness]

Though you did not address ...

I addressed everything that was relevant to the point being made.


Be blessed,

JEHOVAH'S WITNESS

I made a point that Jesus Christ is mentioned in Greek in 1John 5:20, also you did not address.

And I pointed out that the Greek passage only mentions Jesus by name once, not twice as the quoted translators presumed to do.

[Capbook]

Though you did not address ...

I addressed everything that was relevant to the point being made.


Be blessed,

JEHOVAH'S WITNESS

I made a point that Jesus Christ is mentioned in Greek in 1John 5:20, also you did not address.

And I pointed out that the Greek passage only mentions Jesus by name once, not twice as the quoted translators presumed to do.

Though mentioned once but it did refer to Jesus Christ.
There has been much difference of opinion in regard to this important passage; whether it refers to the Lord Jesus Christ, the immediate antecedent, or to a more remote antecedent - referring to God, as such. The question is of importance in its bearing on the doctrine of the divinity of the Saviour; for if it refers to him, it furnishes an unequivocal declaration that he is divine. The question is, whether John “meant” that it should be referred to him? Without going into an extended examination of the passage, the following considerations seem to me to make it morally certain that by the phrase “this is the true God,” etc., he did refer to the Lord Jesus Christ. (Barne's)

[JehovahsWitness]

Though mentioned once but it did refer to Jesus Christ.

I did not suggest otherwise.

[Capbook]

Though mentioned once but it did refer to Jesus Christ.

I did not suggest otherwise.

But the text said so, and also in Phil 2:6, equality is debatable but "in the form of God" is not. Jesus is God.

[JehovahsWitness]

Though mentioned once but it did refer to Jesus Christ.

I did not suggest otherwise.

But the text said so, ...

I just said that the text refer to Jesus Christ, you seem to be arguing with yourself.

[Capbook]

Though mentioned once but it did refer to Jesus Christ.

I did not suggest otherwise.

But the text said so, ...

I just said that the text refer to Jesus Christ, you seem to be arguing with yourself.

Good, so it did refer to Jesus Christ just like Barne's said about 1John5:20.

[JehovahsWitness]

Good, so it did refer to Jesus Christ just like Barne's said about 1John5:20.

The passage makes reference to Jesus Christ. I disagree with Barne's conclusion about what its saying about that One.

JW

[Capbook]

Good, so it did refer to Jesus Christ just like Barne's said about 1John5:20.

The passage makes reference to Jesus Christ. I disagree with Barne's conclusion about what its saying about that One.

JW

As always you can disagree as you're all bound to the belief of the GB.
But in Phil 2:6, as I've said "equality" is debatable but "being in the form God" is not. Jesus is God.

[JehovahsWitness]

Good, so it did refer to Jesus Christ just like Barne's said about 1John5:20.

The passage makes reference to Jesus Christ. I disagree with Barne's conclusion about what its saying about that One.

JW

As always you can disagree ...

I do disagree with Barnes on this matter. I might not on another subject.