How many religions came from America?

[Wootah]

Is it evidence for or against religions if they came from America?

For instance Mormonism and Jehovah's Witnesses. Are there more? Scientology. Any more?

I would argue it is evidence against the religion because America has quite literally nothing the to do with the Bible. What other evidence flows from a religion coming from America?

[oldbadger]

Luke was a physician, and the write ups say most likely while Judas was hanging from the rope, it broke and he lunged forward and whatever fell out of him into that field. So that is what the physician saw as occurring.

"Luke the physician" didn't write anything about a rope at all. If we can just add details where they aren't, why not make the story even cooler?

Judas threw some money into the temple and the priests decided to buy a field with it. Judas went away and hanged himself. It wasn't actually a suicide attempt (let alone fatal), but a weird sex thing. When he was done, he went and collected the "reward for his wickedness." Contrary to popular belief, the "reward" wasn't actually the money he got for betraying Jesus, but was his cut of the take from the highly exciting heist known to the baffled Romans as "the Capernaum caper." The fence got them much more than they expected for the stolen Canaanite sculptures and Judas decided it was finally time to retire. He bought himself a quaint little place in the hills to retire to with a few sheep and Gallic slaves. While he was peeping in the windows of the slave quarters, he tripped and fell and his guts fell out. Luckily, Luke the cybernetic physician was there and replaced the inefficient human intestines with an advanced biomechanical energy harvesting system that would allow him to live forever, barring accident, murder, or predation by a wild animal. Then a Tyrannosaurus rex ate him.

I mean, the Bible doesn't say that stuff didn't happen and nobody has to incorrectly claim that certain English ambiguities also existed in classical Greek.

You should write a gospel compendium......... it would be a best seller.
Even @Transponder would buy a copy!

[kjw47]

I am not twisting what is written, the fact the Jewish leaders could not put that money into Gods things proves they knew Judas was the owner of that money. And it was blood money.

You stopped too soon. Immediately after that, they bought the Field of Blood, contradicting Acts where Judas bought it.

It is no different if your child asks you for $$ to go buy a new computer and you give it to her and she goes and purchases it. In the same sense you bought the computer because it was your $$ used.

[kjw47]

Luke was a physician, and the write ups say most likely while Judas was hanging from the rope, it broke and he lunged forward and whatever fell out of him into that field. So that is what the physician saw as occurring.

"Luke the physician" didn't write anything about a rope at all. If we can just add details where they aren't, why not make the story even cooler?

Judas threw some money into the temple and the priests decided to buy a field with it. Judas went away and hanged himself. It wasn't actually a suicide attempt (let alone fatal), but a weird sex thing. When he was done, he went and collected the "reward for his wickedness." Contrary to popular belief, the "reward" wasn't actually the money he got for betraying Jesus, but was his cut of the take from the highly exciting heist known to the baffled Romans as "the Capernaum caper." The fence got them much more than they expected for the stolen Canaanite sculptures and Judas decided it was finally time to retire. He bought himself a quaint little place in the hills to retire to with a few sheep and Gallic slaves. While he was peeping in the windows of the slave quarters, he tripped and fell and his guts fell out. Luckily, Luke the cybernetic physician was there and replaced the inefficient human intestines with an advanced biomechanical energy harvesting system that would allow him to live forever, barring accident, murder, or predation by a wild animal. Then a Tyrannosaurus rex ate him.

I mean, the Bible doesn't say that stuff didn't happen and nobody has to incorrectly claim that certain English ambiguities also existed in classical Greek.

He didnt have to write about a rope, Matthew did. The rest of your post isnt reality.

[kjw47]

Luke was a physician, and the write ups say most likely while Judas was hanging from the rope, it broke and he lunged forward and whatever fell out of him into that field. So that is what the physician saw as occurring.

OK....... so the Temple leaders picked up those coins, strewn upon the floor by Judas, bought a field, and Judas went to that field to hang himself.

If you are happy with that then...ok. So in the case of this particular account all the trinity gospels are pure and true, not devil guided.

Can you think of any gospel accounts that you believe were devil inspired?

The gospels themselves weren't devil inspired. Errors translated in to fit false council teachings were devil inspired. The biggest being John 1:1-- In the old Greek lexicons, the true God is called Ho Theos in the 2nd line, the word called Plain Theos in the last line, clearly showing a difference, the only other occurrence in the NT where that occurs is 2 Cor 4:4--satan called plain Theos, God called Ho Theos--the translating rule is the same in both places-thus-a god small g belongs in the last line at John 1:1 just like to satan-god at 2 Cor.
In 1822 a Greek scholar A.Kneeland translated the NT, He compared Greek to English side by side to prove to the world-a god is correct, 19 other translations had a god, 3 had was divine. All rejected by trinity clergys because that truth exposes them as false religions.

[kjw47]

The account says because it was bloodmoney they could not put it in the treasury.

The Acts account, yes. But the priesthood stuffed money in to anything, anywhere....... totally corrupted. I can show that easily.

--The Israelite spiritual leaders-NEVER broke Gods laws. They had bad heart conditions that was their problem.

Never? Never?

They had placed themselves on pedastels, thinking they were better than the flock,

So they did bust some laws, like they bust this one.

They were expecting a mighty king to show up and destroy Roman rule over them. A mere carpenters son showed up and told them their errors, they hated him. However in their hatred for their own Messiah they did break Gods law. A man had 7 days to build a defense once arrested. They tried Jesus the first night. The Israelites were apostocised when Jesus came.

More laws bust.
The Priesthood didn't care what happened to the people as long as they got their cut before any Roman takings.
They ran an absolute fraud with their money-changing bazaar and ripped the people off horribly.
They didn't care about disgusting emblems being struck on their God's Temple coinage.
They had sacrifice scams as well......
They were what were called 'quislings' during the last great war when Germany occupied France...... they assisted the occupying force.

They arrested Jesus for smashing up the currency bazaar and picketing the Temple courts two days in a row. It says so in your bible.

Jesus was never arrested but the 1 time. Back in those days, one had to sacrifice birds and animals for their sins. The money changers were selling birds, cows in Gods temple, that is what Jesus disliked. Making profit in Gods holy temple, profaning his Fathers name. John 2:14-16)

[oldbadger]

The gospels themselves weren't devil inspired. Errors translated in to fit false council teachings were devil inspired. The biggest being John 1:1-- In the old Greek lexicons, the true God is called Ho Theos in the 2nd line, the word called Plain Theos in the last line, clearly showing a difference, the only other occurrence in the NT where that occurs is 2 Cor 4:4--satan called plain Theos, God called Ho Theos--the translating rule is the same in both places-thus-a god small g belongs in the last line at John 1:1 just like to satan-god at 2 Cor.
In 1822 a Greek scholar A.Kneeland translated the NT, He compared Greek to English side by side to prove to the world-a god is correct, 19 other translations had a god, 3 had was divine. All rejected by trinity clergys because that truth exposes them as false religions.

I don't believe in trinity either....... OK, are these differences the only differences between your gospels and others?
That would leave many many contradictions which your gospels do still have.

[oldbadger]

Jesus was never arrested but the 1 time.

Yes...... definitely for busting up the temple currency bazaar and picketing the temple courts. He and his were very angry about temople corruption.

Back in those days, one had to sacrifice birds and animals for their sins.

For petty conditions and acts, yes, but scores of crimes carried the death penalty, kjw47.

The money changers were selling birds, cows in Gods temple, that is what Jesus disliked. Making profit in Gods holy temple, profaning his Fathers name. John 2:14-16)

No, you've got that wrong. The money changers were not selling animals in the temple, they were changing any outside currencies in to temple currency, and they were deceiving the people during those transactions.

The stalls selling sacrificial birds and animals were on a brilliant scam as well. I reckon that the priests were condemning sacrificial lambs etc brought to the temple by the people as imperfect, so the a temple lamb had to be purchased at a rip-off price. The condemned lamb would have to be left somewhere and could be recovered later for the priests to sell as perfect...... that's a big guess I'm making but it was bound to be something like that.

Even today with so many tight controls the money changing services at airports and ship ports need to be tested very carefully for cheating. It's easy to scam some people who need to change currencies.

[oldbadger]

The gospels themselves weren't devil inspired. Errors translated in to fit false council teachings were devil inspired. The biggest being John 1:1-

There is a naughty addition in Mark 1:1 as well.
You mentioned the gospel of John........ after arriving in Jerusalem on Palm Sunday Jesus spoke with the people and answered questions, and then he went and hid to get away from them. That isn't what we read in other gospels, though.

John clearly didn't want there to be any mention of Jesus causing trouble in the Temple (that last week) so that didn't happen in his gospel, instead he had Jesus causing trouble in the Temple the week after that wedding in Cana. So many differences.

[Difflugia]

It is no different if your child asks you for $$ to go buy a new computer and you give it to her and she goes and purchases it. In the same sense you bought the computer because it was your $$ used.

The English ambiguity that you're relying on about the "sense" of who did they buying doesn't exist in the Greek of Acts 1:18. When Judas ἐκτήσατο the χωρίον, it means that he did the exchange himself in contradiction to Matthew's story.

"Did you or your child actually go to the store and buy the new computer?" "My child did."

That's the "sense" of Acts 1:18.

[Difflugia]

He didnt have to write about a rope, Matthew did.

He didn't "have to write about a rope" because it wasn't part of Luke's story. In the same way, Matthew "didn't have to write about" exploding guts because it wasn't part of his story.

The rest of your post isnt reality.

There's neither Tyrannosaurus rex nor broken rope in either story. What's your rule or criterion for adding your own details to a story and then believing they were there all along?