How many religions came from America?

[Wootah]

Is it evidence for or against religions if they came from America?

For instance Mormonism and Jehovah's Witnesses. Are there more? Scientology. Any more?

I would argue it is evidence against the religion because America has quite literally nothing the to do with the Bible. What other evidence flows from a religion coming from America?

[oldbadger]

He committed suicide. Yes some things are worded differently by different writers.

Ah...... so Luke's version in Acts was clearly different, a contradiction about how Judas died. But I can understand that because Luke never met either Jesus or Judas, and so gathered his account second-hand. Fair enough.

[oldbadger]

I know every trinity translation is filled with contradictions by satans will to mislead. It has caused a house divided( 34,000 trinity religionsssssss) they will not stand. They are a mass of confusion.

Well, it seems as if satan or somebody must certainly misguided Luke's pen about Judas's death.... for sure.

Where do your gospels differ from all those other translations?

[oldbadger]

Show me both spots please about Judas death.

Of course....... Have you not seen these before?
These are as shown in the KJV bible.

Acts (by Luke) {1:16} Men [and] brethren,...............concerning Judas, which was guide to them that took Jesus. {1:17} For he was numbered with us, and had obtained part of this ministry. {1:18} Now this man purchased a field with the reward of iniquity; and falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all his bowels gushed out. {1:19} And it was known unto all the dwellers at Jerusalem; insomuch as that field is called in their proper tongue, Aceldama, that is to say, The field of blood. {1:20}..............

Matthew {27:3} Then Judas, which had betrayeth him, when he saw that he was condemned, repented himself, and brought again the thirty pieces of silver to the chief priests and elders, {27:4} Saying, I have sinned in that I have betrayed the innocent blood. And they said, What [is that] to us? see
thou [to that. ]{27:5} And he cast down the pieces of silver in the temple, and departed, and went and hanged himself. {27:6} And the chief priests took the silver pieces, and said, It is not lawful for to put them into the treasury, because it is the price of blood. {27:7} And they took counsel, and bought with them the potter’s field, to bury strangers in. {27:8} Wherefore that field was called, The field of blood,

[oldbadger]

I am not twisting what is written, the fact the Jewish leaders could not put that money into Gods things proves they knew Judas was the owner of that money. And it was blood money.

Sadly, the Jewish leaders didn't give a hoot about 'God's things'.
The Temple coin had been struck with an image of a pagan god (Melgarth Heracles, or Baal), an engraved image and the name of Caesar in Greek abbreviation. That's a bit like a Christian church having its own coins struck with a picture of the devil, a couple making love and a pagan religion's ensignia.... now your leaders wouldn't put up with that...... but the Priesthood and Temple leaders did!

They didn't give a damn where silver came from as long as the silver was good, kjw47. Your account as shown is not true.

[kjw47]

I know every trinity translation is filled with contradictions by satans will to mislead. It has caused a house divided( 34,000 trinity religionsssssss) they will not stand. They are a mass of confusion.

Well, it seems as if satan or somebody must certainly misguided Luke's pen about Judas's death.... for sure.

Where do your gospels differ from all those other translations?

Luke was a physician, and the write ups say most likely while Judas was hanging from the rope, it broke and he lunged forward and whatever fell out of him into that field. So that is what the physician saw as occurring.

[kjw47]

I am not twisting what is written, the fact the Jewish leaders could not put that money into Gods things proves they knew Judas was the owner of that money. And it was blood money.

Sadly, the Jewish leaders didn't give a hoot about 'God's things'.
The Temple coin had been struck with an image of a pagan god (Melgarth Heracles, or Baal), an engraved image and the name of Caesar in Greek abbreviation. That's a bit like a Christian church having its own coins struck with a picture of the devil, a couple making love and a pagan religion's ensignia.... now your leaders wouldn't put up with that...... but the Priesthood and Temple leaders did!

They didn't give a damn where silver came from as long as the silver was good, kjw47. Your account as shown is not true.

The account says because it was bloodmoney they could not put it in the treasury.--The Israelite spiritual leaders-NEVER broke Gods laws. They had bad heart conditions that was their problem. They had placed themselves on pedastels, thinking they were better than the flock, They were expecting a mighty king to show up and destroy Roman rule over them. A mere carpenters son showed up and told them their errors, they hated him. However in their hatred for their own Messiah they did break Gods law. A man had 7 days to build a defense once arrested. They tried Jesus the first night. The Israelites were apostocised when Jesus came.

[Difflugia]

I am not twisting what is written, the fact the Jewish leaders could not put that money into Gods things proves they knew Judas was the owner of that money. And it was blood money.

You stopped too soon. Immediately after that, they bought the Field of Blood, contradicting Acts where Judas bought it.

[Difflugia]

Luke was a physician, and the write ups say most likely while Judas was hanging from the rope, it broke and he lunged forward and whatever fell out of him into that field. So that is what the physician saw as occurring.

"Luke the physician" didn't write anything about a rope at all. If we can just add details where they aren't, why not make the story even cooler?

Judas threw some money into the temple and the priests decided to buy a field with it. Judas went away and hanged himself. It wasn't actually a suicide attempt (let alone fatal), but a weird sex thing. When he was done, he went and collected the "reward for his wickedness." Contrary to popular belief, the "reward" wasn't actually the money he got for betraying Jesus, but was his cut of the take from the highly exciting heist known to the baffled Romans as "the Capernaum caper." The fence got them much more than they expected for the stolen Canaanite sculptures and Judas decided it was finally time to retire. He bought himself a quaint little place in the hills to retire to with a few sheep and Gallic slaves. While he was peeping in the windows of the slave quarters, he tripped and fell and his guts fell out. Luckily, Luke the cybernetic physician was there and replaced the inefficient human intestines with an advanced biomechanical energy harvesting system that would allow him to live forever, barring accident, murder, or predation by a wild animal. Then a Tyrannosaurus rex ate him.

I mean, the Bible doesn't say that stuff didn't happen and nobody has to incorrectly claim that certain English ambiguities also existed in classical Greek.

[oldbadger]

Luke was a physician, and the write ups say most likely while Judas was hanging from the rope, it broke and he lunged forward and whatever fell out of him into that field. So that is what the physician saw as occurring.

OK....... so the Temple leaders picked up those coins, strewn upon the floor by Judas, bought a field, and Judas went to that field to hang himself.

If you are happy with that then...ok. So in the case of this particular account all the trinity gospels are pure and true, not devil guided.

Can you think of any gospel accounts that you believe were devil inspired?

[oldbadger]

The account says because it was bloodmoney they could not put it in the treasury.

The Acts account, yes. But the priesthood stuffed money in to anything, anywhere....... totally corrupted. I can show that easily.

--The Israelite spiritual leaders-NEVER broke Gods laws. They had bad heart conditions that was their problem.

Never? Never?

They had placed themselves on pedastels, thinking they were better than the flock,

So they did bust some laws, like they bust this one.

They were expecting a mighty king to show up and destroy Roman rule over them. A mere carpenters son showed up and told them their errors, they hated him. However in their hatred for their own Messiah they did break Gods law. A man had 7 days to build a defense once arrested. They tried Jesus the first night. The Israelites were apostocised when Jesus came.

More laws bust.
The Priesthood didn't care what happened to the people as long as they got their cut before any Roman takings.
They ran an absolute fraud with their money-changing bazaar and ripped the people off horribly.
They didn't care about disgusting emblems being struck on their God's Temple coinage.
They had sacrifice scams as well......
They were what were called 'quislings' during the last great war when Germany occupied France...... they assisted the occupying force.

They arrested Jesus for smashing up the currency bazaar and picketing the Temple courts two days in a row. It says so in your bible.