How many religions came from America?

[Wootah]

Is it evidence for or against religions if they came from America?

For instance Mormonism and Jehovah's Witnesses. Are there more? Scientology. Any more?

I would argue it is evidence against the religion because America has quite literally nothing the to do with the Bible. What other evidence flows from a religion coming from America?

[kjw47]

God hid many realities, it kept satan in darkness, so he couldnt screw it all up like he tries through his religions and teachers.( 2Cor 11:12-15)and yes humans. One must learn from the teachers Jesus appoints to learn bible truth. Lots can be understood but some cannot without being taught by them.

Are you and yours appointed by Jesus to learn and give out bible truth?
If so, please clear up the problem about the death of Judas....was it by suicide or accident?

It doesnt matter how Judas died, it has 0 bearing on whats going on between you and your judgement that is coming. Today has all the bearing. Catholicism screwed much of the NT up, Only their translating remained of the NT when the protestants translated. They caused many contradictions.

[kjw47]

Its not a contradiction. It was Judas's money, so in that sense he bought the field. If your daughter needs a new computer but has no money and you give her the money and she goes to purchase it--Who bought it? You did. That is the sense of what is being said.

The Greek doesn't allow for "that sense," though. The middle voice (often considered an active middle deponent) of κτάομαι always carries a meaning that in English would be called reflexive: οὗτος ἐκτήσατο means "this man acquired for himself." Nobody else bought it for him. In different tenses, it could mean that the subject acquired something for someone else, but even that's the in the wrong direction for your apologetic response. No matter how one slices it, Judas did the active acquiring in Acts. In Matthew, the priest did. They cannot be true together and at least one must be false.

You know the facts-Judas threw away the $, the Israelite spiritual teachers paid for the field but Judas owned the $. no need to twist it, It doesnt have any bearing on anything.

[oldbadger]

Such a poor understanding--on purpose i would say.

Everything that you and I write is 'on purpose', isn't that true?
But you didn't answer my question which was 'Did Judas die by accident or suicide?' and you didn't answer.

Do you believe that questions like the above, which you didn't answer, are nasty or something?
There are contradictions in the bible, kjw47, and I chose one at random....... the glaring ones are much more obvious than such as that.

[oldbadger]

It doesnt matter how Judas died, it has 0 bearing on whats going on between you and your judgement that is coming. Today has all the bearing.

It mattered enough (how Judas died) for the bible to include such accounts.
My judgement that is coming?
I am a Deist, kjw47.

Catholicism screwed much of the NT up, Only their translating remained of the NT when the protestants translated. They caused many contradictions.

.....many contradictions. That is what I wrote, many posts back.

[oldbadger]

You know the facts-Judas threw away the $, the Israelite spiritual teachers paid for the field but Judas owned the $. no need to twist it, It doesnt have any bearing on anything.

But I don't know the facts!
I have read that Judas committed suicide, and I have read that Judas died by accident.
The bible included both accounts, and if this has no bearing upon anything then your church's translators could either have received a clear indication about what happened or they could have just included the material which your church thinks is essential to eternal life.

I think that such accounts, including everything that Jesus and his did in Jerusalem during that last week is important to me. I am an HJ student.

[kjw47]

Such a poor understanding--on purpose i would say.

Everything that you and I write is 'on purpose', isn't that true?
But you didn't answer my question which was 'Did Judas die by accident or suicide?' and you didn't answer.

Do you believe that questions like the above, which you didn't answer, are nasty or something?
There are contradictions in the bible, kjw47, and I chose one at random....... the glaring ones are much more obvious than such as that.

He committed suicide. Yes some things are worded differently by different writers.

[kjw47]

It doesnt matter how Judas died, it has 0 bearing on whats going on between you and your judgement that is coming. Today has all the bearing.

It mattered enough (how Judas died) for the bible to include such accounts.
My judgement that is coming?
I am a Deist, kjw47.

Catholicism screwed much of the NT up, Only their translating remained of the NT when the protestants translated. They caused many contradictions.

.....many contradictions. That is what I wrote, many posts back.

I know every trinity translation is filled with contradictions by satans will to mislead. It has caused a house divided( 34,000 trinity religionsssssss) they will not stand. They are a mass of confusion.

[kjw47]

You know the facts-Judas threw away the $, the Israelite spiritual teachers paid for the field but Judas owned the $. no need to twist it, It doesnt have any bearing on anything.

But I don't know the facts!
I have read that Judas committed suicide, and I have read that Judas died by accident.
The bible included both accounts, and if this has no bearing upon anything then your church's translators could either have received a clear indication about what happened or they could have just included the material which your church thinks is essential to eternal life.

I think that such accounts, including everything that Jesus and his did in Jerusalem during that last week is important to me. I am an HJ student.

Show me both spots please about Judas death.

[Difflugia]

You know the facts-Judas threw away the $, the Israelite spiritual teachers paid for the field but Judas owned the $. no need to twist it, It doesnt have any bearing on anything.

That's just it. What you're claiming are the "facts" aren't supported by what's written. The only way you can find them in what's written is by twisting what's written.

[kjw47]

You know the facts-Judas threw away the $, the Israelite spiritual teachers paid for the field but Judas owned the $. no need to twist it, It doesnt have any bearing on anything.

That's just it. What you're claiming are the "facts" aren't supported by what's written. The only way you can find them in what's written is by twisting what's written.

I am not twisting what is written, the fact the Jewish leaders could not put that money into Gods things proves they knew Judas was the owner of that money. And it was blood money.