Does consciousness exist?

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Does consciousness exist?

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Proverbs 18:17 The one who states his case first seems right, until the other comes and examines him.

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Re: Does consciousness exist?

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JoeyKnothead wrote: Sun Jul 31, 2022 3:36 pm
Inquirer wrote: Sun Jul 31, 2022 12:08 pm
JoeyKnothead wrote: Sat Jul 30, 2022 5:19 pm
Inquirer wrote: Sat Jul 30, 2022 12:21 pm
Invention is using things discovered.
Discovery is finding things that exist.
Creation is making things exist that didn't exist.
And creationism is declaring a creator that can't be shown to exist, did him what he can't be shown to've done.
You mean can't be seen to exist by you? I and many others have no trouble seeing it.
Some have no trouble seeing Santa, Mother Goose, and all manner of things that can't be shown to exist beyond the imagination.
Not me though.

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Inquirer wrote: Sun Jul 31, 2022 5:11 pm
JoeyKnothead wrote: Sun Jul 31, 2022 3:36 pm Some have no trouble seeing Santa, Mother Goose, and all manner of things that can't be shown to exist beyond the imagination.
Not me though.
Says the god seer.
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Re: Does consciousness exist?

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JoeyKnothead wrote: Sun Jul 31, 2022 5:27 pm
Inquirer wrote: Sun Jul 31, 2022 5:11 pm
JoeyKnothead wrote: Sun Jul 31, 2022 3:36 pm Some have no trouble seeing Santa, Mother Goose, and all manner of things that can't be shown to exist beyond the imagination.
Not me though.
Says the god seer.
There's none so blind as those who will not see.

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Inquirer wrote: Mon Aug 01, 2022 11:10 am There's none so blind as those who will not see.
What's to see when there ain't nothing there?
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JoeyKnothead wrote: Mon Aug 01, 2022 12:18 pm
Inquirer wrote: Mon Aug 01, 2022 11:10 am There's none so blind as those who will not see.
What's to see when there ain't nothing there?
Try removing the blinkers then take another look.

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Re: Does consciousness exist?

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Inquirer wrote: Mon Aug 01, 2022 12:35 pm
JoeyKnothead wrote: Mon Aug 01, 2022 12:18 pm
Inquirer wrote: Mon Aug 01, 2022 11:10 am There's none so blind as those who will not see.
What's to see when there ain't nothing there?
Try removing the blinkers then take another look.
I don't have flashing lights anywhere near me.
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JoeyKnothead wrote: Mon Aug 01, 2022 12:43 pm
Inquirer wrote: Mon Aug 01, 2022 12:35 pm
JoeyKnothead wrote: Mon Aug 01, 2022 12:18 pm
Inquirer wrote: Mon Aug 01, 2022 11:10 am There's none so blind as those who will not see.
What's to see when there ain't nothing there?
Try removing the blinkers then take another look.
I don't have flashing lights anywhere near me.
How do you know?

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Re: Does consciousness exist?

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Inquirer wrote: Mon Aug 01, 2022 12:46 pm
JoeyKnothead wrote: Mon Aug 01, 2022 12:43 pm
Inquirer wrote: Mon Aug 01, 2022 12:35 pm
JoeyKnothead wrote: Mon Aug 01, 2022 12:18 pm
Inquirer wrote: Mon Aug 01, 2022 11:10 am There's none so blind as those who will not see.
What's to see when there ain't nothing there?
Try removing the blinkers then take another look.
I don't have flashing lights anywhere near me.
How do you know?
This.

Notice what's happening here, dear observer... Firsts it's implied I refuse to see, then it's implied I have on blinders (blinkers), and now there's an implication I can't see at all.

Christian apologetics, indeed, their holy text, is chock full of insults and slanders against anyone who rejects Christian belief. Let this guide you when considering their 'debate' throughout this site, and just in general.
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Re: Does consciousness exist?

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JoeyKnothead wrote: Mon Aug 01, 2022 1:13 pm
Inquirer wrote: Mon Aug 01, 2022 12:46 pm
JoeyKnothead wrote: Mon Aug 01, 2022 12:43 pm
Inquirer wrote: Mon Aug 01, 2022 12:35 pm
JoeyKnothead wrote: Mon Aug 01, 2022 12:18 pm
Inquirer wrote: Mon Aug 01, 2022 11:10 am There's none so blind as those who will not see.
What's to see when there ain't nothing there?
Try removing the blinkers then take another look.
I don't have flashing lights anywhere near me.
How do you know?
This.

Notice what's happening here, dear observer... Firsts it's implied I refuse to see, then it's implied I have on blinders (blinkers), and now there's an implication I can't see at all.

Christian apologetics, indeed, their holy text, is chock full of insults and slanders against anyone who rejects Christian belief. Let this guide you when considering their 'debate' throughout this site, and just in general.
Says the person who began this one-liner exchange with "Some have no trouble seeing Santa, Mother Goose, and all manner of things that can't be shown to exist beyond the imagination.".

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Re: Does consciousness exist?

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Inquirer wrote: Mon Aug 01, 2022 1:23 pm Says the person who began this one-liner exchange with "Some have no trouble seeing Santa, Mother Goose, and all manner of things that can't be shown to exist beyond the imagination.".
Santa can be seen in malls across the land, that don't mean there's a magic man with magic reindeer. Mother Goose can be seen illustrated in countless books, that don't mean there's a talking goose. Visual (and audible) hallucinations're well documented.

We're being told a god exists, and that you can see him (or effects thereof). And I say we, us humans, have been known to see a bunch of stuff that doesn't exist.

I don't imply folks refuse to see that which can't be shown.

I don't imply folks have blinders (blinkers) on.

I don't imply folks don't have eyes.

I merely pointed out then, as I do now - folks're known, and documented, to report seeing things that can only be shown to be a product of their imagination.
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-Punkinhead Martin

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