Do any christians question God's decision in this election?

[ithinkthereforeiam]

Since everything is God's will, do any christians question God's decision to elect Barack Obama as our next president?

[JoeyKnothead]

God chose? How 'bout all them folks that stood in line? Or are you saying God rigged the election?

[justifyothers]

Since everything is God's will, do any christians question God's decision to elect Barack Obama as our next president?

Well, biblically, and by viewing the world, I'm not sure that everything is God's will. I'll explain....

God gave us a brain to make choices. Clearly this was His will, as He designed us this way.

In Genesis, God says for man to take dominion over the earth. To control things here, we could do it within His will, or without it.

In the gospels, Jesus is tempted by Satan and offered all of Satan's kingdoms on earth if he will only worship him. Why did Satan think the earth's kingdoms were his to give?

Jesus prayed...."Our Father, which art in Heaven, hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done on earth, as it is in Heaven......" Perhaps if we don't pray/ask for God's will in our lives, we don't receive it.

There are things that happen in this world that I cannot imagine are the will of God.

Basically, I think God's will is available to us, should we seek it. But not forced upon us. Thus, WE elected Obama. God may or may not approve.

[myth-one.com]

Oops! Justifyothers immediately above made almost exactly the same point as this post. I should have read more that the original Post before replying. My apologies. (is there any way to delete posts?) BUMMER! ************************** Hast Makes Waste!

Since everything is God's will, do any christians question God's decision to elect Barack Obama as our next president?

If God's will is being done on the earth, why are we instructed in the "Lord's Prayer" to pray for God's will to be done to the earth?

Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven. (Matthew 6:10)

Man's will is being done on earth, and men and women elected Obama. God had no vote.

[LittlePig]

Man's will is being done on earth, and men and women elected Obama. God had no vote.

You guys are trying to lead me astray. Good thing I read my Bible...

During the night the mystery was revealed to Daniel in a vision. Then Daniel praised the God of heaven and said:
"Praise be to the name of God for ever and ever;
wisdom and power are his.
He changes times and seasons;
he sets up kings and deposes them.
He gives wisdom to the wise
and knowledge to the discerning."

'The decision is announced by messengers, the holy ones declare the verdict, so that the living may know that the Most High is sovereign over the kingdoms of men and gives them to anyone he wishes and sets over them the lowliest of men.'

Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God.

If God's will is being done on the earth, why are we instructed in the "Lord's Prayer" to pray for God's will to be done to the earth?

Good question. Will God stop others from doing their own will if we ask that his will be done here on earth?

[myth-one.com]

If God's will is being done on the earth, why are we instructed in the "Lord's Prayer" to pray for God's will to be done to the earth?

Good question. Will God stop others from doing their own will if we ask that his will be done here on earth?

Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven. (Matthew 6:10)

After the Second Coming and Jesus' defeat of Satan, the Earth will once again become part of the Kingdom of God:

The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever. (Revelation 11:15)

At this time, God's kingdom will have returned to the earth. This is the answer to our praying "Thy kingdom come." At that same time, deceased Christians will be born again as spirits from their graves and "God's will" will begin on the earth.

[TMMaria]

Since everything is God's will, do any christians question God's decision to elect Barack Obama as our next president?

God who sees the past, present, or future has omniscience of things to come. No, a Christian would not question God's ratification, as in allowing the events to take their course without directing it to another end, of Obama being elected.

Rather than questioning, we look into things and wait patiently to learn of His Will, because if God allows any evil to happen, that's because He allows things to pave the way for a greater victory of goodness. What that greater victory is....the future shall unfold.

[TMMaria]

If God's will is being done on the earth, why are we instructed in the "Lord's Prayer" to pray for God's will to be done to the earth?

Good question. Will God stop others from doing their own will if we ask that his will be done here on earth?

I believe God will stop certain evil (as in deliver us from evil) from having their days in our life....if we ask for His Will be done on earth. What loving father would give his children rocks when asked for bread?

Asking for His Will be done on earth is like asking for Heaven to start here on earth.

[JoeyKnothead]

In my neck of the woods there was a bit of a todo when George the Curious got elected. Many of the more 'out there' kinds of religious folks were elated that 'one of their own' was elected. To many this was a 'clear' sign of what God wanted, or it was a 'clear' sign "God moved people" to vote for Bush. Now that an otherwise 'enemy' gets elected, there are so many rationalizations for why God 'allowed' Obama to get elected you couldn't add 'em all up if you took a week to do it.

[MagusYanam]

My question is, why should any Christian see Obama as an 'enemy' in the first place? Isn't Obama himself a Christian (United Church of Christ)? He was baptised as an adult and he seems Christian enough in his lifestyle and priorities: he loves his wife and children and his actions in the legislature show that he cares about social justice for the working poor. He is a Niebuhrian just-war theorist (not a position I always agree with, but still well within the Christian tradition), an environmentalist, and has explicitly stated that he favours policies that will reduce the number of abortions.

My guess is that most of these people have more objection to his skin colour showing that he's 'not one of them', rather than his religion, and they rationalise this by saying he's a 'Muslim', which he's not.

And yes, I voted for Obama.