Daniel’s book still contains a few remaining secrets that are only now to be revealed. Most of us believe we are close to the time of the “catching away” of the church, the coming “Great Tribulation,” the revealing of God’s two witnesses, and the antichrist and his High Priest. These few remaining mysteries will be revealed and understood solely to exalt God and to inspire us. They are to be applied to truth by supernatural communication, through the Holy Spirit. Secrets that have remained hidden from us until the fullness of time, which I believe is now.
These remaining mysteries have been stamped with a special character on all who embrace them and invest in those who receive them, special insights. I believe Daniel’s prophecies still hold secrets that are now only being revealed. Here are the two verses under discussion. Here is how I understand the two verses. My comments are in (---). Also remember, the first 49 years of the 490 years are past and the next 434 years begin in Daniel 9:26.
Daniel 9:26-27, “After threescore and two weeks (434 years) shall Messiah (Jesus) be cut off (middle to end of October of 27 A.D.) but not for himself (to save the lost sheep of the house of Israel): and the people (Roman Legions) of the prince (the Lord) that shall come shall destroy the city (Jerusalem) and the sanctuary (Herod’s Temple); and the end (of the Temple and city) thereof shall be with a flood (70 A.D. was Israel’s end) and into the end of the war desolations are determined.”
Verse 27, “And he Jesus) shall confirm the covenant (his new covenant) with many (Jews) for one week (7 years): and in the middle of the week (3 ½ years) “he” (Jesus) shall cause the (Temple) sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it (the Temple) desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.”
There’s a great deal of surface information in the above two verses, and even more, hidden beneath the surface in carefully chosen words written in both verses. Let’s begin with several questions. Remember, Daniel wrote in ancient Hebrew with a touch of the ancient Chaldean. He uses words not found in any other book of the Bible, so careful study is needed. Here are my three questions.
1. Who do you think the “he” is?
2. And who caused the Temple sacrifices and offerings to cease?
3. What covenant is to be confirmed for 7 years, but the person who brought the covenant to the Jews was cut off after 3 ½ years?
We can begin with these three questions; what are your thoughts?
Daniel 9:26-27
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Re: Daniel 9:26-27
Post #2This is an interesting subject to discuss and important because it affects everyone living. It's my favorite subject, because it involves the events happening today in the Middle East, Israel, and the Islamic world. If you have no input, then ask me a question. If you don't, I'll have to go to my Captains room and start talking to myselfplacebofactor wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 1:21 pm Daniel’s book still contains a few remaining secrets that are only now to be revealed. Most of us believe we are close to the time of the “catching away” of the church, the coming “Great Tribulation,” the revealing of God’s two witnesses, and the antichrist and his High Priest. These few remaining mysteries will be revealed and understood solely to exalt God and to inspire us. They are to be applied to truth by supernatural communication, through the Holy Spirit. Secrets that have remained hidden from us until the fullness of time, which I believe is now.
These remaining mysteries have been stamped with a special character on all who embrace them and invest in those who receive them, special insights. I believe Daniel’s prophecies still hold secrets that are now only being revealed. Here are the two verses under discussion. Here is how I understand the two verses. My comments are in (---). Also remember, the first 49 years of the 490 years are past and the next 434 years begin in Daniel 9:26.
Daniel 9:26-27, “After threescore and two weeks (434 years) shall Messiah (Jesus) be cut off (middle to end of October of 27 A.D.) but not for himself (to save the lost sheep of the house of Israel): and the people (Roman Legions) of the prince (the Lord) that shall come shall destroy the city (Jerusalem) and the sanctuary (Herod’s Temple); and the end (of the Temple and city) thereof shall be with a flood (70 A.D. was Israel’s end) and into the end of the war desolations are determined.”
Verse 27, “And he Jesus) shall confirm the covenant (his new covenant) with many (Jews) for one week (7 years): and in the middle of the week (3 ½ years) “he” (Jesus) shall cause the (Temple) sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it (the Temple) desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.”
There’s a great deal of surface information in the above two verses, and even more, hidden beneath the surface in carefully chosen words written in both verses. Let’s begin with several questions. Remember, Daniel wrote in ancient Hebrew with a touch of the ancient Chaldean. He uses words not found in any other book of the Bible, so careful study is needed. Here are my three questions.
1. Who do you think the “he” is?
2. And who caused the Temple sacrifices and offerings to cease?
3. What covenant is to be confirmed for 7 years, but the person who brought the covenant to the Jews was cut off after 3 ½ years?
We can begin with these three questions; what are your thoughts?
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Re: Daniel 9:26-27
Post #3DANIEL 9:27
“And he [1] will keep the covenant in force for the many for one week; and at the half of the week, he [2] will cause sacrifice and gift offering to cease.
He [1] =Jesus {"keep the covenant in force for the many"}placebofactor wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 1:21 pm 1. Who do you think the “he” is?
2. And who caused the Temple sacrifices and offerings to cease?
He [2] = JEHOVAH {"cause sacrifice and gift offering to cease"}
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“And he [Jesus] will keep the covenant in force for the many for one week ...
The Abrahamic Covenant.placebofactor wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 1:21 pm
3. What covenant is to be confirmed for {"seven days"} 7 years ....?

The Abrahamic Covenant instigated in 1943 BCE was a unilateral promise by God to bless Abrahams descendants and eventually through them to produce a "seed" that would would be the means of blessing for all humankind.
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Re: Daniel 9:26-27
Post #5JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2025 4:15 pmDANIEL 9:27
“And he [Jesus] will keep the covenant in force for the many for one week ...The Abrahamic Covenant.placebofactor wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 1:21 pm
3. What covenant is to be confirmed for {"seven days"} 7 years ....?
Please consider the following verses.
I have good reason to believe the confirmation of the new covenant with the Jews has been assigned to Jesus Christ. So the question, "What covenant?"
Isaiah 42:6, “I the LORD (Father) have called you (Jesus) in righteousness, and will hold your hand, and will keep you, and give you for a covenant of (to) the people for a light of the Gentiles;”
Jeremiah 31:31, “Behold, the days come, said the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:”
In the last book of the O.T. written 400 years before Christ's birth. Malachi wrote, 3:1, “Behold, I will send my messenger (John the Baptist) and he shall prepare the way before me (Jesus): and the Lord, whom you (the Jews) seek, shall suddenly come to his temple, even the messenger of the covenant,” That was Jesus.
Luke 22:20, Jesus is speaking to his disciples at the last supper. “This cup is the New Testament (or covenant) in my blood, which is shed for you.” Covenant and Testament are the same Greek.
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Post #6placebofactor wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 1:21 pm
3. What covenant is to be confirmed for {"seven days"} 7 years ....?
placebofactor wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2025 4:54 pmPlease consider the following verses.JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2025 4:15 pmThe Abrahamic Covenant.DANIEL 9:27
“And he [Jesus] will keep the covenant in force for the many for one week ...
Thanks you, I have considered the verses.
Now, did you have a point to make regarding my statement that Dan 9:27 was refering to the Abrahamic covenant? If so could you state clearly what your point is?
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Re: Daniel 9:26-27
Post #7[Replying to JehovahsWitness in post #4]
Abrahams descendants = Gods chosen= Galations 3:27-29= ALL who put on Christ are Abrahams offspring)))= Not literal Israel religion. They reject Christ to this day.
Abrahams descendants = Gods chosen= Galations 3:27-29= ALL who put on Christ are Abrahams offspring)))= Not literal Israel religion. They reject Christ to this day.
Re: Daniel 9:26-27
Post #8placebofactor wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 1:21 pm Daniel’s book still contains a few remaining secrets that are only now to be revealed. Most of us believe we are close to the time of the “catching away” of the church, the coming “Great Tribulation,” the revealing of God’s two witnesses, and the antichrist and his High Priest. These few remaining mysteries will be revealed and understood solely to exalt God and to inspire us. They are to be applied to truth by supernatural communication, through the Holy Spirit. Secrets that have remained hidden from us until the fullness of time, which I believe is now.
These remaining mysteries have been stamped with a special character on all who embrace them and invest in those who receive them, special insights. I believe Daniel’s prophecies still hold secrets that are now only being revealed. Here are the two verses under discussion. Here is how I understand the two verses. My comments are in (---). Also remember, the first 49 years of the 490 years are past and the next 434 years begin in Daniel 9:26.
Daniel 9:26-27, “After threescore and two weeks (434 years) shall Messiah (Jesus) be cut off (middle to end of October of 27 A.D.) but not for himself (to save the lost sheep of the house of Israel): and the people (Roman Legions) of the prince (the Lord) that shall come shall destroy the city (Jerusalem) and the sanctuary (Herod’s Temple); and the end (of the Temple and city) thereof shall be with a flood (70 A.D. was Israel’s end) and into the end of the war desolations are determined.”
The first 69 weeks of this prophecy represents the 483 years that transpired between the commandment to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until the day Jesus was cut off on Mount Calvary.
Verse 27, “And he Jesus) shall confirm the covenant (his new covenant) with many (Jews) for one week (7 years): and in the middle of the week (3 ½ years) “he” (Jesus) shall cause the (Temple) sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it (the Temple) desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.”
The last week represents the 7 years of tribulation determined for the end time just prior to Jesus returning to the Mt. of Olives to begin His thousand year earthly reign.
There’s a great deal of surface information in the above two verses, and even more, hidden beneath the surface in carefully chosen words written in both verses. Let’s begin with several questions. Remember, Daniel wrote in ancient Hebrew with a touch of the ancient Chaldean. He uses words not found in any other book of the Bible, so careful study is needed. Here are my three questions.
1. Who do you think the “he” is?
2. And who caused the Temple sacrifices and offerings to cease?
3. What covenant is to be confirmed for 7 years, but the person who brought the covenant to the Jews was cut off after 3 ½ years?
We can begin with these three questions; what are your thoughts?
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Re: Daniel 9:26-27
Post #9This is incorrect : The final (70th) "week" corresponds to the 7 years following Jesus baptism
= 3.5 years : earthly ministry
= 3.5 years : Jews special (exclusive) relationship with God
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Post #10The first 3.5 years of the 7 years of tribulation will appear to be peaceful but in the middle of the tribulation the antichrist shall offer the abomination of desolation on the temple altar and declare himself to be God in God's place. That is when all the unnatural devastation and plagues of God's judgment will begin.JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Sun Jan 12, 2025 2:53 amThis is incorrect : The final (70th) "week" corresponds to the 7 years following Jesus baptism
= 3.5 years : earthly ministry
= 3.5 years : Jews special (exclusive) relationship with God
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27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.