For debate: Is Jesus good?The Rich and the Kingdom of God
17 As Jesus started on his way, a man ran up to him and fell on his knees before him. “Good teacher,” he asked, “what must I do to inherit eternal life?”
18 “Why do you call me good?” Jesus answered. “No one is good—except God alone. 19 You know the commandments: ‘You shall not murder, you shall not commit adultery, you shall not steal, you shall not give false testimony, you shall not defraud, honor your father and mother.’[d]”
20 “Teacher,” he declared, “all these I have kept since I was a boy.”
21 Jesus looked at him and loved him. “One thing you lack,” he said. “Go, sell everything you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.”
22 At this the man’s face fell. He went away sad, because he had great wealth.
23 Jesus looked around and said to his disciples, “How hard it is for the rich to enter the kingdom of God!”
24 The disciples were amazed at his words. But Jesus said again, “Children, how hard it is[e] to enter the kingdom of God! 25 It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.”
26 The disciples were even more amazed, and said to each other, “Who then can be saved?”
27 Jesus looked at them and said, “With man this is impossible, but not with God; all things are possible with God.”
Is Jesus good? Mark 10:8
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Is Jesus good? Mark 10:8
Post #1Proverbs 18:17 The one who states his case first seems right, until the other comes and examines him.
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Re: Is Jesus good? Mark 10:8
Post #2Jesus tells only God is good and Jesus also says God is greater than him, therefore I think, by what is said in the bible, Jesus doesn't think he is good. I think he is better than everyone else than God.
Jesus asked him, "Why do you call me good? No one is good, ex-cept one--God.
Luke 18:19
the Father is greater than I.
John 14:28
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Post #3Proverbs 18:17 The one who states his case first seems right, until the other comes and examines him.
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Re: Is Jesus good? Mark 10:8
Post #4What is the context in which Jesus is saying this?
A quick search gives these examples.
•Tov
“Tov is from the Hebrew word for "good", but with a fuller intent which implies something which fulfills the purpose for which it was created.
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•(a) Possessing desirable qualities, beneficial, agreeable, e.g. "good for food" (Genesis 2:9); "We will do thee good" (Numbers 10:29); Who will show us any good?" (Psalms 4:6); "good tidings of good" (Isaiah 52:7).
•It only appears four times in the New Testament, but it stems from an adjective – agathos – that shows up over 100 times! Agathos, “good,” is a versatile word, meaning excellence of many kinds. It can describe fertile soil (Luke 8:8) or productive trees (Matthew 7:17).
A quick search gives these examples.
•Tov
“Tov is from the Hebrew word for "good", but with a fuller intent which implies something which fulfills the purpose for which it was created.
also
•(a) Possessing desirable qualities, beneficial, agreeable, e.g. "good for food" (Genesis 2:9); "We will do thee good" (Numbers 10:29); Who will show us any good?" (Psalms 4:6); "good tidings of good" (Isaiah 52:7).
•It only appears four times in the New Testament, but it stems from an adjective – agathos – that shows up over 100 times! Agathos, “good,” is a versatile word, meaning excellence of many kinds. It can describe fertile soil (Luke 8:8) or productive trees (Matthew 7:17).

An immaterial nothing creating a material something is as logically sound as square circles and married bachelors.
Unjustified Fact Claim(UFC) example - belief (of any sort) based on personal subjective experience. (Belief-based belief)
Justified Fact Claim(JFC) Example, The Earth is spherical in shape. (Knowledge-based belief)
Irrefutable Fact Claim (IFC) Example Humans in general experience some level of self-awareness. (Knowledge-based knowledge)
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Post #6Is Jesus good or not? Yes or no.
Proverbs 18:17 The one who states his case first seems right, until the other comes and examines him.
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Re: Is Jesus good? Mark 10:8
Post #8[Replying to 1213 in post #7]
No, you aren't being clear.
I say, "Yes, Jesus is good."
You say, "___, Jesus is ___ good."
No, you aren't being clear.
I say, "Yes, Jesus is good."
You say, "___, Jesus is ___ good."
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Re: Is Jesus good? Mark 10:8
Post #9Why do you disagree with Jesus?Wootah wrote: ↑Thu Sep 26, 2024 3:49 pm [Replying to 1213 in post #7]
No, you aren't being clear.
I say, "Yes, Jesus is good."
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Post #10Proverbs 18:17 The one who states his case first seems right, until the other comes and examines him.
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