Can you guys please help me with school?

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Can you guys please help me with school?

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I know this isn't conventional but I could really use your help

Can you guys help me by taking this survey for a school project. Your help is greatly appreciated!

Answer choices: Strongly agree, agree, neutral, disagree, strongly disagree


Oklahoma passed House Bill 2656 on April 2010 that states that doctors are not required to inform the mother if they suspect that the fetus may have birth defects. The bills purpose is to prevent lawsuits against doctors from parents in hindsight wish that the doctor had counseled them to abort the disabled child. Supporters of the bill argue that this will provide doctors with protection against unfair lawsuits. However, opponents of the bill state that it will protect doctors who purposefully mislead a woman to keep her from choosing abortion. Opponents also claim that this will lead to a distrust between a doctor and the patient since doctors are allowed to lie to their patients without any consequence. Currently abortions in all states are restricted based on the age of the fetus rather than the condition. Oklahoma legislature has not released information which states that this is a problem in their state or if a certain lawsuit sparked this law. Oklahoma State Senator and majority flood leader has been quoted stating, “The goal of this legislation is just to make a statement for the sanctity of human life.� AMA and other official doctor organizations have yet to release a public statement on this new law. Individual doctors however are divided on their position regarding this law.



1. I would not file a lawsuit against my doctor blaming him for medical issues if I trusted him.

2. I believe that doctors let their own morals influence the advice they give patients.

3. I believe that doctors are often at risk for unjustified lawsuits that blame them for the state of the child.

4. I believe that doctors give advice to their patients without bias.

5. I believe that even if a doctor withholds information because they believe it is for the best, that they are violating the trust between the doctor and the patient.

6. I trust my doctor to provide me with the information I need.

7. I don't believe that doctors will misuse Oklahoma's new law in order

to further their own beliefs.

8. I do believe that doctors will misuse Oklahoma's new law in order to further their own beliefs.

9. I do not need to know about a potential health complication if the chances of it occurring are less than 50%.

10. I would be less likely to trust my doctor if this law was in place in my state.

11. The trust between a doctor and a patient is important to me.

12. I believe that doctors should have more legal protection.



Demographic information:

Age:

Gender:

Level of education:

Religious Status:

Marital status:

Position on abortion:

Have you ever had or knew someone that has had an abortion?

How many children do you have?
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Flail

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Strongly disagree. IMO, any such law would violate a physician's hippocratic oath, be contrary to the statutorily protected physician patient relationship and be otherwise unconstitutional as a violation of due process and equal protection. Any law that permits lying or withholding of information by a physician to his patient is patently untenable.

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Flail wrote:Strongly disagree. IMO, any such law would violate a physician's hippocratic oath, be contrary to the statutorily protected physician patient relationship and be otherwise unconstitutional as a violation of due process and equal protection. Any law that permits lying or withholding of information by a physician to his patient is patently untenable.
Thanks! but uhh if you don't mind could you take the survey?

Sorry I know it's a hassle but I'm supposed to analyze the results :( :( :(

WinePusher

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Sneha wrote:Oklahoma passed House Bill 2656 on April 2010 that states that doctors are not required to inform the mother if they suspect that the fetus may have birth defects. The bills purpose is to prevent lawsuits against doctors from parents in hindsight wish that the doctor had counseled them to abort the disabled child. Supporters of the bill argue that this will provide doctors with protection against unfair lawsuits. However, opponents of the bill state that it will protect doctors who purposefully mislead a woman to keep her from choosing abortion. Opponents also claim that this will lead to a distrust between a doctor and the patient since doctors are allowed to lie to their patients without any consequence. Currently abortions in all states are restricted based on the age of the fetus rather than the condition. Oklahoma legislature has not released information which states that this is a problem in their state or if a certain lawsuit sparked this law. Oklahoma State Senator and majority flood leader has been quoted stating, “The goal of this legislation is just to make a statement for the sanctity of human life.� AMA and other official doctor organizations have yet to release a public statement on this new law. Individual doctors however are divided on their position regarding this law.
I am neutral. While I think a woman has every right to know the potential defects her child may have, I also think that exist to many frivilious malpractice lawsuits aganist doctors by lawyers who want to make a buck.
1. I would not file a lawsuit against my doctor blaming him for medical issues if I trusted him.
Neutral
2. I believe that doctors let their own morals influence the advice they give patients.
Agree
3. I believe that doctors are often at risk for unjustified lawsuits that blame them for the state of the child.
Strongly Agree
4. I believe that doctors give advice to their patients without bias.
Neutral
5. I believe that even if a doctor withholds information because they believe it is for the best, that they are violating the trust between the doctor and the patient.
Strongly Agree
6. I trust my doctor to provide me with the information I need.
Strongly Agree
7. I don't believe that doctors will misuse Oklahoma's new law in order to further their own beliefs.
Strongly Agree
8. I do believe that doctors will misuse Oklahoma's new law in order to further their own beliefs.
Strongly Agree
9. I do not need to know about a potential health complication if the chances of it occurring are less than 50%.
Neutral
10. I would be less likely to trust my doctor if this law was in place in my state.
Neutral
11. The trust between a doctor and a patient is important to me.
Agree
12. I believe that doctors should have more legal protection.
Strongly Agree
Age
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Gender:
Male
Level of education:
Current college student
Religious Status:
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Marital status:
Not Married
Position on abortion:
Pro Life.
Have you ever had or knew someone that has had an abortion?
Yes
How many children do you have?
Zero.

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Sneha wrote:I know this isn't conventional but I could really use your help

Can you guys help me by taking this survey for a school project. Your help is greatly appreciated!

Answer choices: Strongly agree, agree, neutral, disagree, strongly disagree


Oklahoma passed House Bill 2656 on April 2010 that states that doctors are not required to inform the mother if they suspect that the fetus may have birth defects. The bills purpose is to prevent lawsuits against doctors from parents in hindsight wish that the doctor had counseled them to abort the disabled child. Supporters of the bill argue that this will provide doctors with protection against unfair lawsuits. However, opponents of the bill state that it will protect doctors who purposefully mislead a woman to keep her from choosing abortion. Opponents also claim that this will lead to a distrust between a doctor and the patient since doctors are allowed to lie to their patients without any consequence. Currently abortions in all states are restricted based on the age of the fetus rather than the condition. Oklahoma legislature has not released information which states that this is a problem in their state or if a certain lawsuit sparked this law. Oklahoma State Senator and majority flood leader has been quoted stating, “The goal of this legislation is just to make a statement for the sanctity of human life.� AMA and other official doctor organizations have yet to release a public statement on this new law. Individual doctors however are divided on their position regarding this law.



1. I would not file a lawsuit against my doctor blaming him for medical issues if I trusted him.
Neutral.

2. I believe that doctors let their own morals influence the advice they give patients.
Agree. Sometimes this is to the detriment to the patient.

3. I believe that doctors are often at risk for unjustified lawsuits that blame them for the state of the child.
Agree. Some people feel the need to blame someone.
4. I believe that doctors give advice to their patients without bias.
Neutral. Some do and some don't.
5. I believe that even if a doctor withholds information because they believe it is for the best, that they are violating the trust between the doctor and the patient.
Strongly Agree.
6. I trust my doctor to provide me with the information I need.
Agree. If I didn't trust my doctor to do that, I would find a new doctor.
7. I don't believe that doctors will misuse Oklahoma's new law in order
to further their own beliefs.
Disagree.
8. I do believe that doctors will misuse Oklahoma's new law in order to further their own beliefs.
Strongly agree.
9. I do not need to know about a potential health complication if the chances of it occurring are less than 50%.
Strongly disagree.
10. I would be less likely to trust my doctor if this law was in place in my state.
Disagree
11. The trust between a doctor and a patient is important to me.
Strongly Agree.
12. I believe that doctors should have more legal protection.
Neutral


Demographic information:

Age:52

Gender:Male

Level of education:College

Religious Status:Athiest

Marital status:Single


Position on abortion:Pro-choice

Have you ever had or knew someone that has had an abortion? Yes.

How many children do you have? None
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1. Disagree. -- Negligence is negligence, irrespective of my level of trust.

2. Agree. -- I believe most Doctors try to be as objective as possible, but I'm confident that personal ethics factor into their decision-making to various degrees.

3. Agree. -- The risk for unjustified lawsuits blaming them for a wide variety of things over which they have little to no control sort of goes with the M.D. territory.

4. Disagree. -- Doctors are human beings; they're not robots (although an increasing number perform robotic-assisted procedures on a regular basis these days :lol: ). And no matter how hard one tries to be objective and hold 'em in check, personal biases are bound to creep into their thought processes, at least in subtle ways.

5. Disagree. -- I really think this depends on the nature of the information being withheld and perhaps on some other factors related to the psyche of the patient.

6. Agree. -- I think some degree of trust has to be present in the default position, and maintained until given reason to feel otherwise.

7. Disagree. -- I'm fairly confident that some will take advantage of the law in order to act in accordance with their personal/religious beliefs.

8. Agree. -- Again, I think some will; but I also suspect that a substantial majority (yes, even in Oklahoma) will be principled enough to avoid such behavior.

9. Strongly Disagree. -- 50% is every bit as arbitrary a standard as any other. Personally, I'd prefer to be informed of any indication of potential abnormality, however strong or remote the chances may be deemed.

10. Agree. -- Not so much "less likely to trust" as more likely to seek out multiple opinions.

11. Agree.

12. Neutral (or yes and no) -- I can easily see both sides of this particular argument. I feel pretty strongly that there should be legal encouragement for all parties to act appropriately ...and recourse just in case that doesn't happen.

Demographic information:

Age: 39

Gender: male

Level of education: 10th grade

Religious Status: none

Marital status: Married

Position on abortion: Pro choice -- the wife and I don't especially like the idea of abortion as a means of 'birth control'.

Have you ever had or knew someone that has had an abortion? -- Yes, I've known of a couple of teenagers who chose to abort.

How many children do you have? -- Two.

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1. I would not file a lawsuit against my doctor blaming him for medical issues if I trusted him.
Disagree. If a doctor, through gross negligence or incompetence, caused me damage, I might be inclined to take legal action (to, if nothing else, create public record and awareness).

2. I believe that doctors let their own morals influence the advice they give patients.
Neutral. It is certainly possible, and even likely in some cases; however, I do not agree with the blanket statement.

3. I believe that doctors are often at risk for unjustified lawsuits that blame them for the state of the child.
Neutral. I have no way of knowing the level of risk involved.

4. I believe that doctors give advice to their patients without bias.
Disagree. There is no reason to assume that medical doctors advise without bias. I have not encountered a person who can honestly be said to act / advise without bias (though attempt can, and often should, be made to do so, particularly with regard to the advisee’s medical issues).

5. I believe that even if a doctor withholds information because they believe it is for the best, that they are violating the trust between the doctor and the patient.
Strongly agree

6. I trust my doctor to provide me with the information I need.
Strongly agree.

7. I don't believe that doctors will misuse Oklahoma's new law in order
to further their own beliefs.
Neutral. Some probably will, some probably won’t.

8. I do believe that doctors will misuse Oklahoma's new law in order to further their own beliefs.
Neutral. I have no way of knowing.

9. I do not need to know about a potential health complication if the chances of it occurring are less than 50%.
Strongly disagree.

10. I would be less likely to trust my doctor if this law was in place in my state.
Strongly disagree. As a seventy year old male, my trust of doctors is unlikely to be influenced by pregnancy.

11. The trust between a doctor and a patient is important to me.
Strongly agree.

12. I believe that doctors should have more legal protection.
Neutral. I do not have enough information at hand upon which to take a position on that matter.


Demographic information:

Age: 70

Gender: Male

Level of education: Graduate degree

Religious Status: Non-Theist

Marital status: Married

Position on abortion: Pro Choice

Have you ever had or knew someone that has had an abortion? Yes, several

How many children do you have? No “children� – daughter and son at or near fifty years of age.
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ANY of the thousands of "gods" proposed, imagined, worshiped, loved, feared, and/or fought over by humans MAY exist -- awaiting verifiable evidence

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1. I would not file a lawsuit against my doctor blaming him for medical issues if I trusted him.
If he commited malpractice and caused me injury via his clear negligence, I would file suit regardless of whether I trusted him.

2. I believe that doctors let their own morals influence the advice they give patients.
Agree

3. I believe that doctors are often at risk for unjustified lawsuits that blame them for the state of the child.
Agree

4. I believe that doctors give advice to their patients without bias.
Strongly agree

5. I believe that even if a doctor withholds information because they believe it is for the best, that they are violating the trust between the doctor and the patient.
Strongly agree.

6. I trust my doctor to provide me with the information I need.
Strongly agree.

7. I don't believe that doctors will misuse Oklahoma's new law in order
to further their own beliefs.
Agree.

8. I do believe that doctors will misuse Oklahoma's new law in order to further their own beliefs.
Agree.

9. I do not need to know about a potential health complication if the chances of it occurring are less than 50%.
Strongly disagree. I need and have an unqualified right to know.

10. I would be less likely to trust my doctor if this law was in place in my state.
Agree

11. The trust between a doctor and a patient is important to me.
Strongly agree.

12. I believe that doctors should have more legal protection.
Agree that the current laws in place against frivilous lawsuits should be enforced by lazy inept judges who are by far the rule rather than the exception.

Demographic information:

Age:60

Gender:Male

Level of education:Doctorate

Religious Status:Non-theist ignostic
Marital status: Married

Position on abortion: Pro-choice

Have you ever had or knew someone that has had an abortion? Yes

How many children do you have?[/quote] Two

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Sneha wrote:I know this isn't conventional but I could really use your help

Can you guys help me by taking this survey for a school project. Your help is greatly appreciated!

Answer choices: Strongly agree, agree, neutral, disagree, strongly disagree


Oklahoma passed House Bill 2656 on April 2010 that states that doctors are not required to inform the mother if they suspect that the fetus may have birth defects. The bills purpose is to prevent lawsuits against doctors from parents in hindsight wish that the doctor had counseled them to abort the disabled child. Supporters of the bill argue that this will provide doctors with protection against unfair lawsuits. However, opponents of the bill state that it will protect doctors who purposefully mislead a woman to keep her from choosing abortion. Opponents also claim that this will lead to a distrust between a doctor and the patient since doctors are allowed to lie to their patients without any consequence. Currently abortions in all states are restricted based on the age of the fetus rather than the condition. Oklahoma legislature has not released information which states that this is a problem in their state or if a certain lawsuit sparked this law. Oklahoma State Senator and majority flood leader has been quoted stating, “The goal of this legislation is just to make a statement for the sanctity of human life.� AMA and other official doctor organizations have yet to release a public statement on this new law. Individual doctors however are divided on their position regarding this law.



1. I would not file a lawsuit against my doctor blaming him for medical issues if I trusted him. Strongly disagree (if she/he kept something from me on purpose or if he should have performed a regular pregnancy test in the course of ordinary pre-natal care, or if I asked him/her to perform a test)

2. I believe that doctors let their own morals influence the advice they give patients. Stongly disagree they are trained to be neutral, if I thought any of my doctors did that, they'd be history and a complaint filed.

3. I believe that doctors are often at risk for unjustified lawsuits that blame them for the state of the child. Agree, they are often at risk, comes with the territory.

4. I believe that doctors give advice to their patients without bias. Strongly Agree.

5. I believe that even if a doctor withholds information because they believe it is for the best, that they are violating the trust between the doctor and the patient. Stongly Agree, God Complex.

6. I trust my doctor to provide me with the information I need. Stongly Agree, and I need ALL the information.

7. I don't believe that doctors will misuse Oklahoma's new law in order to further their own beliefs. Neutral, I have no idea.

8. I do believe that doctors will misuse Oklahoma's new law in order to further their own beliefs. Same as above.

9. I do not need to know about a potential health complication if the chances of it occurring are less than 50%. Stongly Disagree, I need ALL the information.

10. I would be less likely to trust my doctor if this law was in place in my state. Strongly Agree, but if this law was in place, I'd ask a lot more questions and I'd let the doctor know I disagreed with the law and ask what he/she thought about it.

11. The trust between a doctor and a patient is important to me. Strongly Agree.

12. I believe that doctors should have more legal protection. Agree, the fault here as usual lies with malpractice insurance policies.


Demographic information:

Age: 42

Gender: Female

Level of education: Some College

Religious Status: Athiest

Marital status: Married (11 living together in sin, married 13 years)

Position on abortion: Pro-choice

Have you ever had or knew someone that has had an abortion? Yes, several.

How many children do you have?
One (girl age 8).

Good luck with your paper, please let us know the results.

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