You Don't Need to Believe in the Trinity to be Saved?

[2timothy316]

"Correct view" you say. Clear this up for me. You mean one must believe in the basic belief of the trinity to be saved right?

No, I’m saying the complete opposite. I’m explicitly saying one doesn’t have to have the correct/true view of God’s nature (trinitarian or not) to be saved. I’m saying one can be wrong about the trinity and still be saved.

Is this true? One doesn't have to believe in the trinity to be saved?

[JehovahsWitness]

duplicate sorry

[JehovahsWitness]

(Acts 13:2)

DOES ACTS 13:2 INDICATE url=viewtopic.php?p=1154914#p1154914]THE HOLY SPIRIT[/url] ACTED INDEPENDENT OF GOD AS ITS OWN PERSON?

No, there is no such statement in the bible. The expression thaturl=viewtopic.php?p=1154914#p1154914]the holy spirit[/url] spoke is metaphorical, meaning that the Apostles were moved by the holy spirit to express God's will for them. See 1 Peter 1 verse 21.

1 PETER 1v21

For prophecy was at no time brought by man’s will, but men spoke from God as they were moved* by holy spirit.

• God uses his holy spirit to inspire (inspire literally means god breathed) his prophets to speak HIS (God's) thoughts.

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In this verse, who decide to separate and who called them?

Acts 13:2
2 As they ministered to the Lord, and fasted, the Holy Ghost said, Separate me Barnabas and Saul for the work whereunto I have called them.
KJV

It does not say who decided it simply said "who" said, which has been explained see above.

[Capbook]

(Acts 13:2)

DOES ACTS 13:2 INDICATE THE HOLY SPIRIT ACTED INDEPENDENT OF GOD AS ITS OWN PERSON?

No, there is no such statement in the bible. The expression that the holy spirit spoke is metaphorical, meaning that the Apostles were moved by the holy spirit to express God's will for them. See 1 Peter 1 verse 21.

1 PETER 1v21

For prophecy was at no time brought by man’s will, but men spoke from God as they were moved* by holy spirit.

• God uses his holy spirit to inspire (inspire literally means god breathed) his prophets to speak HIS (God's) thoughts.

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What is HOLY SPIRIT ?
viewtopic.php?p=1154914#p1154914

In this verse, who decide to separate and who called them?

Acts 13:2
2 As they ministered to the Lord, and fasted, the Holy Ghost said, Separate me Barnabas and Saul for the work whereunto I have called them.
KJV

It does not say who decided it simply said "who" said, which has been explained see above.

Well, who said, called and sent them?

Acts 13:2-4
2 As they ministered to the Lord, and fasted, the Holy Ghost said, Separate me Barnabas and Saul for the work whereunto I have called them.
3 And when they had fasted and prayed, and laid their hands on them, they sent them away.
4 So they, being sent forth by the Holy Ghost, departed unto Seleucia; and from thence they sailed to Cyprus.
KJV

[JehovahsWitness]

Well, who said, called and sent them?

The answer to your question has already been given (see Post 78 LINK viewtopic.php?p=1154948#p1154948 )







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[Capbook]

Well, who said, called and sent them?

The answer to your question has already been given (see Post 78 LINK viewtopic.php?p=1154948#p1154948 )

1Pet 1:21 does not answer the question as Acts 13:2 is not talking about prophecy.

1 PETER 1v21
For prophecy was at no time brought by man’s will, but men spoke from God as they were moved* by holy spirit.

[JehovahsWitness]

1Pet 1:21 does not answer the question ...

Yes he does. He explains how the holy spirit "speaks".



JW





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[Capbook]

1Pet 1:21 does not answer the question ...

Yes he does. He explains how the holy spirit "speaks".



JW

Is Acts 13:2 prediction or prophesying?

propheteia (prof-ay-ti'-ah); from NT:4396 ("prophecy"); prediction (scriptural or other):

KJV - prophecy, prophesying.
( New Exhaustive Strong's Numbers and Concordance with Expanded Greek-Hebrew Dictionary. )

Acts 13:2
2 As they ministered to the Lord, and fasted, the Holy Ghost said, Separate me Barnabas and Saul for the work whereunto I have called them.
KJV

[JehovahsWitness]

1Pet 1:21 does not answer the question ...

Yes he does. He explains how the holy spirit "speaks".



JW

Is Acts 13:2 prediction or prophesying?

propheteia (prof-ay-ti'-ah); from NT:4396 ("prophecy"); prediction (scriptural or other):

KJV - prophecy, prophesying.
( New Exhaustive Strong's Numbers and Concordance with Expanded Greek-Hebrew Dictionary. )

Acts 13:2
2 As they ministered to the Lord, and fasted, the Holy Ghost said, Separate me Barnabas and Saul for the work whereunto I have called them.
KJV

What is your point?



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[Capbook]

1Pet 1:21 does not answer the question ...

Yes he does. He explains how the holy spirit "speaks".



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Is Acts 13:2 prediction or prophesying?

propheteia (prof-ay-ti'-ah); from NT:4396 ("prophecy"); prediction (scriptural or other):

KJV - prophecy, prophesying.
( New Exhaustive Strong's Numbers and Concordance with Expanded Greek-Hebrew Dictionary. )

Acts 13:2
2 As they ministered to the Lord, and fasted, the Holy Ghost said, Separate me Barnabas and Saul for the work whereunto I have called them.
KJV

What is your point?



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That what the, "Holy Ghost said, Separate me Barnabas and Saul for the work whereunto I have called them."
That is not prophecy. It's the Holy Spirit that said to separate the two for His work.

[JehovahsWitness]

It's the Holy Spirit that said to separate the two for His work.

Yes and if we let the bible interpret the bible we need to turn to Peter to explain how the holy spirit speaks (whether it is "speaking" prophecy or it is "speaking" directives). When we read Peter's explanation we see how the holy spirit "speaks".