Is it one, or is it tw?

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1 Peter 1:1, “Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ,”
How many offices does Peter hold?

Isaiah 45:21, "A just God and a Savior; there is none beside me.”
Is the reference to one or two people?

Titus 2:13, “Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Savior Jesus Christ: who gave himself to us”
How many individuals was Paul referring to when he said, “the great God and our Savior Jesus Christ:”

Jehovah’s Witnesses claim it’s both the Father and Son who are going to appear, or is Jesus being referred to as both God and Savior as in Isaiah 45:21?

John 20:27-28, Jesus said to Thomas, “Reach hither your finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing. And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.”

How many people was Thomas referring to when he said, “My Lord and my God?” The Witnesses calm Thomas is referring to both the Father and Jesus, is that true?

Acts 2:9, “Parthians, and Medes, and Elamites,”
How many nations are mentioned?

Matthew 28:19, “Go you therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Ghost.”
How many individuals are mentioned, two or three? Witnesses claim it’s two, not three.

[onewithhim]

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Only a Witness can keep up with their changes. I've had enough conversations with Jehovah's Witnesses about John 20:28. Here's what they have said to be a hundred times, Tomas was talking to both Jehovah and Jesus, and don't call me a liar. I've been dealing with Witnesses for forty years.

The Witnesses have given you as valid an answer as what you could say. There is the entire Bible to go against Thomas calling Jesus God. If he wasn't speaking to Jehovah as well, then he was just exclaiming, like we do hundreds of times in our lives, "Oh my God!" Just an exclamation of wonderment. There is no other place in the gospel that calls Jesus God, or even any of the N.T. There is SO MUCH to show that Jesus always looked UP to his Father and declared only that he is God's Son. If John was writing that Thomas was calling Jesus God, he had the opportunity to underscore that idea after that exclamation by John himself agreeing with Thomas, but John didn't say anything close to that. Indeed, in chapter 20 at the end, John could have made a statement that would put it all straight that Jesus is God, but he didn't. He said: "But these are written , that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the SON of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name." (John 20:31, KJV)

How can you base your religious opinions on such shaky and tenuous phrases that can be taken many ways, such as John 1:1 and John 8:58? They could be taken in a variety of ways. They are most likely the victims of bad translation. You can't say that about John 20:31 or John 10:36 or John 20:17 or Revelation 3:12 or any other passage that shows Jesus subservient to his Father. (John 5:19; John 12:49,50; John 14:28; John 15:10; John 17:3) Can you?

What is your interpretation with that "life" above I colored red? (John 20:31)

Eternal life.

Thanks, yes, all thing were written that we believe that Jesus is the Christ, and believing Jesus we might have eternal life.(John 20:31)
The Father said that the "eternal life is in His Son Jesus. (1John 5:11)
That would mean that what 1 John 5:20 said Jesus has the eternal life and is the true God.

That is NOT what you say I John 5:20 means. It does not say that Jesus is the true God. It indicates that the true God is the Father, as you can see from the verse itself:

"But we know that the Son of God has come, and he has given us intellectual capacity that we may gain knowledge of the true one [his Father]. And we are in union with the true one, by means of HIS Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God and life everlasting." Who is meant by "HIS"? Whose pronoun is that? Of course it refers to the Father. He is the true God.

Do you believe what the Father said in 1 John 5:11? "Eternal life is in His Son Jesus"?
If Jesus is the eternal life in 1 John 5:20, what does "and" mean in the last phrase that connects to the true God?

Read my post again.

Your post did not answer the simple question. I'll do it in a step by step question cause it was not addressed.
Is 1 John 5:11 wrong?

No. What is your point?

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Only a Witness can keep up with their changes. I've had enough conversations with Jehovah's Witnesses about John 20:28. Here's what they have said to be a hundred times, Tomas was talking to both Jehovah and Jesus, and don't call me a liar. I've been dealing with Witnesses for forty years.

The Witnesses have given you as valid an answer as what you could say. There is the entire Bible to go against Thomas calling Jesus God. If he wasn't speaking to Jehovah as well, then he was just exclaiming, like we do hundreds of times in our lives, "Oh my God!" Just an exclamation of wonderment. There is no other place in the gospel that calls Jesus God, or even any of the N.T. There is SO MUCH to show that Jesus always looked UP to his Father and declared only that he is God's Son. If John was writing that Thomas was calling Jesus God, he had the opportunity to underscore that idea after that exclamation by John himself agreeing with Thomas, but John didn't say anything close to that. Indeed, in chapter 20 at the end, John could have made a statement that would put it all straight that Jesus is God, but he didn't. He said: "But these are written , that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the SON of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name." (John 20:31, KJV)

How can you base your religious opinions on such shaky and tenuous phrases that can be taken many ways, such as John 1:1 and John 8:58? They could be taken in a variety of ways. They are most likely the victims of bad translation. You can't say that about John 20:31 or John 10:36 or John 20:17 or Revelation 3:12 or any other passage that shows Jesus subservient to his Father. (John 5:19; John 12:49,50; John 14:28; John 15:10; John 17:3) Can you?

What is your interpretation with that "life" above I colored red? (John 20:31)

Eternal life.

Thanks, yes, all thing were written that we believe that Jesus is the Christ, and believing Jesus we might have eternal life.(John 20:31)
The Father said that the "eternal life is in His Son Jesus. (1John 5:11)
That would mean that what 1 John 5:20 said Jesus has the eternal life and is the true God.

That is NOT what you say I John 5:20 means. It does not say that Jesus is the true God. It indicates that the true God is the Father, as you can see from the verse itself:

"But we know that the Son of God has come, and he has given us intellectual capacity that we may gain knowledge of the true one [his Father]. And we are in union with the true one, by means of HIS Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God and life everlasting." Who is meant by "HIS"? Whose pronoun is that? Of course it refers to the Father. He is the true God.

Do you believe what the Father said in 1 John 5:11? "Eternal life is in His Son Jesus"?
If Jesus is the eternal life in 1 John 5:20, what does "and" mean in the last phrase that connects to the true God?

Read my post again.

Your post did not answer the simple question. I'll do it in a step by step question cause it was not addressed.
Is 1 John 5:11 wrong?

No. What is your point?

My point is, Jesus has the eternal life based on 1 John 5:11 and to your response as "life" in John 20:31 means eternal life.
The question is, who has the eternal life in 1 John 5:20?

[onewithhim]

The Witnesses have given you as valid an answer as what you could say. There is the entire Bible to go against Thomas calling Jesus God. If he wasn't speaking to Jehovah as well, then he was just exclaiming, like we do hundreds of times in our lives, "Oh my God!" Just an exclamation of wonderment. There is no other place in the gospel that calls Jesus God, or even any of the N.T. There is SO MUCH to show that Jesus always looked UP to his Father and declared only that he is God's Son. If John was writing that Thomas was calling Jesus God, he had the opportunity to underscore that idea after that exclamation by John himself agreeing with Thomas, but John didn't say anything close to that. Indeed, in chapter 20 at the end, John could have made a statement that would put it all straight that Jesus is God, but he didn't. He said: "But these are written , that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the SON of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name." (John 20:31, KJV)

How can you base your religious opinions on such shaky and tenuous phrases that can be taken many ways, such as John 1:1 and John 8:58? They could be taken in a variety of ways. They are most likely the victims of bad translation. You can't say that about John 20:31 or John 10:36 or John 20:17 or Revelation 3:12 or any other passage that shows Jesus subservient to his Father. (John 5:19; John 12:49,50; John 14:28; John 15:10; John 17:3) Can you?

What is your interpretation with that "life" above I colored red? (John 20:31)

Eternal life.

Thanks, yes, all thing were written that we believe that Jesus is the Christ, and believing Jesus we might have eternal life.(John 20:31)
The Father said that the "eternal life is in His Son Jesus. (1John 5:11)
That would mean that what 1 John 5:20 said Jesus has the eternal life and is the true God.

That is NOT what you say I John 5:20 means. It does not say that Jesus is the true God. It indicates that the true God is the Father, as you can see from the verse itself:

"But we know that the Son of God has come, and he has given us intellectual capacity that we may gain knowledge of the true one [his Father]. And we are in union with the true one, by means of HIS Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God and life everlasting." Who is meant by "HIS"? Whose pronoun is that? Of course it refers to the Father. He is the true God.

Do you believe what the Father said in 1 John 5:11? "Eternal life is in His Son Jesus"?
If Jesus is the eternal life in 1 John 5:20, what does "and" mean in the last phrase that connects to the true God?

Read my post again.

Your post did not answer the simple question. I'll do it in a step by step question cause it was not addressed.
Is 1 John 5:11 wrong?

No. What is your point?

My point is, Jesus has the eternal life based on 1 John 5:11 and to your response as "life" in John 20:31 means eternal life.
The question is, who has the eternal life in 1 John 5:20?

The Father, the "his" of the verse. (Who else does "his" refer to?)

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What is your interpretation with that "life" above I colored red? (John 20:31)

Eternal life.

Thanks, yes, all thing were written that we believe that Jesus is the Christ, and believing Jesus we might have eternal life.(John 20:31)
The Father said that the "eternal life is in His Son Jesus. (1John 5:11)
That would mean that what 1 John 5:20 said Jesus has the eternal life and is the true God.

That is NOT what you say I John 5:20 means. It does not say that Jesus is the true God. It indicates that the true God is the Father, as you can see from the verse itself:

"But we know that the Son of God has come, and he has given us intellectual capacity that we may gain knowledge of the true one [his Father]. And we are in union with the true one, by means of HIS Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God and life everlasting." Who is meant by "HIS"? Whose pronoun is that? Of course it refers to the Father. He is the true God.

Do you believe what the Father said in 1 John 5:11? "Eternal life is in His Son Jesus"?
If Jesus is the eternal life in 1 John 5:20, what does "and" mean in the last phrase that connects to the true God?

Read my post again.

Your post did not answer the simple question. I'll do it in a step by step question cause it was not addressed.
Is 1 John 5:11 wrong?

No. What is your point?

My point is, Jesus has the eternal life based on 1 John 5:11 and to your response as "life" in John 20:31 means eternal life.
The question is, who has the eternal life in 1 John 5:20?

The Father, the "his" of the verse. (Who else does "his" refer to?)

The Father just said in verse 11, that the eternal life is in His Son Jesus, then follows verse 20, same book and chapter.
Do you consider through your answer that the Father is lying?

1 John 5:11 And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.
KJV

[onewithhim]

Eternal life.

Thanks, yes, all thing were written that we believe that Jesus is the Christ, and believing Jesus we might have eternal life.(John 20:31)
The Father said that the "eternal life is in His Son Jesus. (1John 5:11)
That would mean that what 1 John 5:20 said Jesus has the eternal life and is the true God.

That is NOT what you say I John 5:20 means. It does not say that Jesus is the true God. It indicates that the true God is the Father, as you can see from the verse itself:

"But we know that the Son of God has come, and he has given us intellectual capacity that we may gain knowledge of the true one [his Father]. And we are in union with the true one, by means of HIS Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God and life everlasting." Who is meant by "HIS"? Whose pronoun is that? Of course it refers to the Father. He is the true God.

Do you believe what the Father said in 1 John 5:11? "Eternal life is in His Son Jesus"?
If Jesus is the eternal life in 1 John 5:20, what does "and" mean in the last phrase that connects to the true God?

Read my post again.

Your post did not answer the simple question. I'll do it in a step by step question cause it was not addressed.
Is 1 John 5:11 wrong?

No. What is your point?

My point is, Jesus has the eternal life based on 1 John 5:11 and to your response as "life" in John 20:31 means eternal life.
The question is, who has the eternal life in 1 John 5:20?

The Father, the "his" of the verse. (Who else does "his" refer to?)

The Father just said in verse 11, that the eternal life is in His Son Jesus, then follows verse 20, same book and chapter.
Do you consider through your answer that the Father is lying?

Of course not. The Father is making known to us that His Son would "give us understanding, to know Him that is true." Him that is true is the Father.

[Capbook]

Thanks, yes, all thing were written that we believe that Jesus is the Christ, and believing Jesus we might have eternal life.(John 20:31)
The Father said that the "eternal life is in His Son Jesus. (1John 5:11)
That would mean that what 1 John 5:20 said Jesus has the eternal life and is the true God.

That is NOT what you say I John 5:20 means. It does not say that Jesus is the true God. It indicates that the true God is the Father, as you can see from the verse itself:

"But we know that the Son of God has come, and he has given us intellectual capacity that we may gain knowledge of the true one [his Father]. And we are in union with the true one, by means of HIS Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God and life everlasting." Who is meant by "HIS"? Whose pronoun is that? Of course it refers to the Father. He is the true God.

Do you believe what the Father said in 1 John 5:11? "Eternal life is in His Son Jesus"?
If Jesus is the eternal life in 1 John 5:20, what does "and" mean in the last phrase that connects to the true God?

Read my post again.

Your post did not answer the simple question. I'll do it in a step by step question cause it was not addressed.
Is 1 John 5:11 wrong?

No. What is your point?

My point is, Jesus has the eternal life based on 1 John 5:11 and to your response as "life" in John 20:31 means eternal life.
The question is, who has the eternal life in 1 John 5:20?

The Father, the "his" of the verse. (Who else does "his" refer to?)

The Father just said in verse 11, that the eternal life is in His Son Jesus, then follows verse 20, same book and chapter.
Do you consider through your answer that the Father is lying?

Of course not. The Father is making known to us that His Son would "give us understanding, to know Him that is true." Him that is true is the Father.

The question is, "who has the eternal life in these two verses? 1 John 5:11 and 1 John 5:20? Hoping for an honest answer.
Determining if confined to the church belief or have an independent study.

[onewithhim]

That is NOT what you say I John 5:20 means. It does not say that Jesus is the true God. It indicates that the true God is the Father, as you can see from the verse itself:

"But we know that the Son of God has come, and he has given us intellectual capacity that we may gain knowledge of the true one [his Father]. And we are in union with the true one, by means of HIS Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God and life everlasting." Who is meant by "HIS"? Whose pronoun is that? Of course it refers to the Father. He is the true God.

Do you believe what the Father said in 1 John 5:11? "Eternal life is in His Son Jesus"?
If Jesus is the eternal life in 1 John 5:20, what does "and" mean in the last phrase that connects to the true God?

Read my post again.

Your post did not answer the simple question. I'll do it in a step by step question cause it was not addressed.
Is 1 John 5:11 wrong?

No. What is your point?

My point is, Jesus has the eternal life based on 1 John 5:11 and to your response as "life" in John 20:31 means eternal life.
The question is, who has the eternal life in 1 John 5:20?

The Father, the "his" of the verse. (Who else does "his" refer to?)

The Father just said in verse 11, that the eternal life is in His Son Jesus, then follows verse 20, same book and chapter.
Do you consider through your answer that the Father is lying?

Of course not. The Father is making known to us that His Son would "give us understanding, to know Him that is true." Him that is true is the Father.

The question is, "who has the eternal life in these two verses? 1 John 5:11 and 1 John 5:20? Hoping for an honest answer.
Determining if confined to the church belief or have an independent study.

I have studied it myself and reached my own conclusion. It is obvious that the "he" in the verse is the Father, and he is the true God. I have given you an honest answer.

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Do you believe what the Father said in 1 John 5:11? "Eternal life is in His Son Jesus"?
If Jesus is the eternal life in 1 John 5:20, what does "and" mean in the last phrase that connects to the true God?

Read my post again.

Your post did not answer the simple question. I'll do it in a step by step question cause it was not addressed.
Is 1 John 5:11 wrong?

No. What is your point?

My point is, Jesus has the eternal life based on 1 John 5:11 and to your response as "life" in John 20:31 means eternal life.
The question is, who has the eternal life in 1 John 5:20?

The Father, the "his" of the verse. (Who else does "his" refer to?)

The Father just said in verse 11, that the eternal life is in His Son Jesus, then follows verse 20, same book and chapter.
Do you consider through your answer that the Father is lying?

Of course not. The Father is making known to us that His Son would "give us understanding, to know Him that is true." Him that is true is the Father.

The question is, "who has the eternal life in these two verses? 1 John 5:11 and 1 John 5:20? Hoping for an honest answer.
Determining if confined to the church belief or have an independent study.

I have studied it myself and reached my own conclusion. It is obvious that the "he" in the verse is the Father, and he is the true God. I have given you an honest answer.

Own conclusion? man's own interpretation to Bible text?
So numerous verses that says Jesus is the life (eternal life) you even quote John 20:31. Jesus said I am the way, the truth and the life.
Now you deny those Jesus teachings? Does that mean that you don't have the Father? (2John 1:9) Be conscious to our salvation when we fall guilty to this text.

2Jn 1:9 Anyone who goes too far and does not remain in the teaching of Christ, does not have God; the one who remains in the teaching has both the Father and the Son

[onewithhim]

Read my post again.

Your post did not answer the simple question. I'll do it in a step by step question cause it was not addressed.
Is 1 John 5:11 wrong?

No. What is your point?

My point is, Jesus has the eternal life based on 1 John 5:11 and to your response as "life" in John 20:31 means eternal life.
The question is, who has the eternal life in 1 John 5:20?

The Father, the "his" of the verse. (Who else does "his" refer to?)

The Father just said in verse 11, that the eternal life is in His Son Jesus, then follows verse 20, same book and chapter.
Do you consider through your answer that the Father is lying?

Of course not. The Father is making known to us that His Son would "give us understanding, to know Him that is true." Him that is true is the Father.

The question is, "who has the eternal life in these two verses? 1 John 5:11 and 1 John 5:20? Hoping for an honest answer.
Determining if confined to the church belief or have an independent study.

I have studied it myself and reached my own conclusion. It is obvious that the "he" in the verse is the Father, and he is the true God. I have given you an honest answer.

Own conclusion? man's own interpretation to Bible text?
So numerous verses that says Jesus is the life (eternal life) you even quote John 20:31. Jesus said I am the way, the truth and the life.
Now you deny those Jesus teachings?

I believe that Jesus is the way, the truth and the life. So what kind of a question is that, "you deny those Jesus teachings"??

[Capbook]

Your post did not answer the simple question. I'll do it in a step by step question cause it was not addressed.
Is 1 John 5:11 wrong?

No. What is your point?

My point is, Jesus has the eternal life based on 1 John 5:11 and to your response as "life" in John 20:31 means eternal life.
The question is, who has the eternal life in 1 John 5:20?

The Father, the "his" of the verse. (Who else does "his" refer to?)

The Father just said in verse 11, that the eternal life is in His Son Jesus, then follows verse 20, same book and chapter.
Do you consider through your answer that the Father is lying?

Of course not. The Father is making known to us that His Son would "give us understanding, to know Him that is true." Him that is true is the Father.

The question is, "who has the eternal life in these two verses? 1 John 5:11 and 1 John 5:20? Hoping for an honest answer.
Determining if confined to the church belief or have an independent study.

I have studied it myself and reached my own conclusion. It is obvious that the "he" in the verse is the Father, and he is the true God. I have given you an honest answer.

Own conclusion? man's own interpretation to Bible text?
So numerous verses that says Jesus is the life (eternal life) you even quote John 20:31. Jesus said I am the way, the truth and the life.
Now you deny those Jesus teachings?

I believe that Jesus is the way, the truth and the life. So what kind of a question is that, "you deny those Jesus teachings"??

Ok, we'll start from here, Jesus said I am the life (eternal life in John 20:31), you say you believe it. Careful with this we might be guilty in 2 John 1:9.
The Father confirmed that the eternal life is in His Son. (1 John 5:11) Honest answer would confirm that the Father was not lying.
Question: Who has the eternal life in 1 John 5:20?