What would Jesus drive?
Is there (or should there) be an environmental concern within Christianity? Why or why not?
While I get the rhetoric of 'my soul is all that matters' that's taught in many churches today, surely there should be some concern with the planet with live on and how we treat it while we're here?
Or no?
WWJD?
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Re: WWJD?
Post #21Cultic text? So you're saying that the following are cultic texts?
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There is no chance that you're wrong about Jesus telling Peter to be a shepherd? Knowing that the word used from the oldest know copies of John's gospel is Poimaine which translates into shepherd. You're going to stick with the error? Ok.
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Post #23Jay P. Green's Literal Translation is recognized as a Textus Receptus Bible. It uses the word shepherd.
http://textusreceptusbibles.com/JPGreen/43/21
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Post #24If Jesus was real and perfect, no one has meet that criteria.Benson wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 3:51 pmNo person today can emulate Jesus. Such a notion is from the opinion of Paul.nobspeople wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 1:35 pm What would Jesus drive?
Is there (or should there) be an environmental concern within Christianity? Why or why not?
While I get the rhetoric of 'my soul is all that matters' that's taught in many churches today, surely there should be some concern with the planet with live on and how we treat it while we're here?
Or no?
Think, the well cared for sheep of Jesus' flock do not emulate Him, they do not become Shepherds. If you disagree, then tell us how you conform to Christ in your life here on Earth.
That said, how does this pertain to any environmental concern (maybe I missed it?)?
Have a great, potentially godless, day!
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Post #26Yet another puzzling display of 'True Christian' [self labeled] confusing biblical interpretations. "No person today can emulate Jesus" Such a notion is from - in this case - "Benson" [probably not their real-world name] but a secondary glance at biblical notions has us reading that Jesus said that we would do greater things than he. Let's see now..."Benson" or "Jesus" ... "Benson" or "Jesus" ...nobspeople wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 12:57 pmIf Jesus was real and perfect, no one has meet that criteria.Benson wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 3:51 pmNo person today can emulate Jesus. Such a notion is from the opinion of Paul.nobspeople wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 1:35 pm What would Jesus drive?
Is there (or should there) be an environmental concern within Christianity? Why or why not?
While I get the rhetoric of 'my soul is all that matters' that's taught in many churches today, surely there should be some concern with the planet with live on and how we treat it while we're here?
Or no?
Think, the well cared for sheep of Jesus' flock do not emulate Him, they do not become Shepherds. If you disagree, then tell us how you conform to Christ in your life here on Earth.
That said, how does this pertain to any environmental concern (maybe I missed it?)?
Perhaps why Christians [numbered in their billions] have no interest in doing better than Jesus - is exactly why the environment is suffering so badly....they prefer Benson's interpretation...
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Post #27I'm sure they may exist, but I haven't seen any environmental or like, Christian based group.William wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 1:11 pmYet another puzzling display of 'True Christian' [self labeled] confusing biblical interpretations. "No person today can emulate Jesus" Such a notion is from - in this case - "Benson" [probably not their real-world name] but a secondary glance at biblical notions has us reading that Jesus said that we would do greater things than he. Let's see now..."Benson" or "Jesus" ... "Benson" or "Jesus" ...nobspeople wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 12:57 pmIf Jesus was real and perfect, no one has meet that criteria.Benson wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 3:51 pmNo person today can emulate Jesus. Such a notion is from the opinion of Paul.nobspeople wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 1:35 pm What would Jesus drive?
Is there (or should there) be an environmental concern within Christianity? Why or why not?
While I get the rhetoric of 'my soul is all that matters' that's taught in many churches today, surely there should be some concern with the planet with live on and how we treat it while we're here?
Or no?
Think, the well cared for sheep of Jesus' flock do not emulate Him, they do not become Shepherds. If you disagree, then tell us how you conform to Christ in your life here on Earth.
That said, how does this pertain to any environmental concern (maybe I missed it?)?
Perhaps why Christians [numbered in their billions] have no interest in doing better than Jesus - is exactly why the environment is suffering so badly....they prefer Benson's interpretation...
I guess they're more concerned with using up all of our resources and 'getting to heaven to party with Jesus' than polluted water, declining fish stock, trash along the roadways or the changing climate?
Have a great, potentially godless, day!
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Post #28Which leads to the obvious conclusion that the systems that these billions of Christians support which create said world problems, are controlled by the very Christians who support said systems.nobspeople wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 1:24 pmI'm sure they may exist, but I haven't seen any environmental or like, Christian based group.William wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 1:11 pmYet another puzzling display of 'True Christian' [self labeled] confusing biblical interpretations. "No person today can emulate Jesus" Such a notion is from - in this case - "Benson" [probably not their real-world name] but a secondary glance at biblical notions has us reading that Jesus said that we would do greater things than he. Let's see now..."Benson" or "Jesus" ... "Benson" or "Jesus" ...nobspeople wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 12:57 pmIf Jesus was real and perfect, no one has meet that criteria.Benson wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 3:51 pmNo person today can emulate Jesus. Such a notion is from the opinion of Paul.nobspeople wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 1:35 pm What would Jesus drive?
Is there (or should there) be an environmental concern within Christianity? Why or why not?
While I get the rhetoric of 'my soul is all that matters' that's taught in many churches today, surely there should be some concern with the planet with live on and how we treat it while we're here?
Or no?
Think, the well cared for sheep of Jesus' flock do not emulate Him, they do not become Shepherds. If you disagree, then tell us how you conform to Christ in your life here on Earth.
That said, how does this pertain to any environmental concern (maybe I missed it?)?
Perhaps why Christians [numbered in their billions] have no interest in doing better than Jesus - is exactly why the environment is suffering so badly....they prefer Benson's interpretation...
I guess they're more concerned with using up all of our resources and 'getting to heaven to party with Jesus' than polluted water, declining fish stock, trash along the roadways or the changing climate?
While at the same time the Christians are deceiving the world by claiming the systems doing this are 'the devils work'...while also claiming they are not siding with said devil.
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Post #29There is no problem at all with the Textus Receptus as in verse 16 employs the verb poimaino which in greek includes but is not limited to feeding.
http://textusreceptusbibles.com/Interlinear/43021016

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Post #30If less people, Christian or other, would stop making such grandiose claims and focus that energy in to really making the world better, we'd all be in a better place in every way imaginable.William wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 1:38 pmWhich leads to the obvious conclusion that the systems that these billions of Christians support which create said world problems, are controlled by the very Christians who support said systems.nobspeople wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 1:24 pmI'm sure they may exist, but I haven't seen any environmental or like, Christian based group.William wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 1:11 pmYet another puzzling display of 'True Christian' [self labeled] confusing biblical interpretations. "No person today can emulate Jesus" Such a notion is from - in this case - "Benson" [probably not their real-world name] but a secondary glance at biblical notions has us reading that Jesus said that we would do greater things than he. Let's see now..."Benson" or "Jesus" ... "Benson" or "Jesus" ...nobspeople wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 12:57 pmIf Jesus was real and perfect, no one has meet that criteria.Benson wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 3:51 pmNo person today can emulate Jesus. Such a notion is from the opinion of Paul.nobspeople wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 1:35 pm What would Jesus drive?
Is there (or should there) be an environmental concern within Christianity? Why or why not?
While I get the rhetoric of 'my soul is all that matters' that's taught in many churches today, surely there should be some concern with the planet with live on and how we treat it while we're here?
Or no?
Think, the well cared for sheep of Jesus' flock do not emulate Him, they do not become Shepherds. If you disagree, then tell us how you conform to Christ in your life here on Earth.
That said, how does this pertain to any environmental concern (maybe I missed it?)?
Perhaps why Christians [numbered in their billions] have no interest in doing better than Jesus - is exactly why the environment is suffering so badly....they prefer Benson's interpretation...
I guess they're more concerned with using up all of our resources and 'getting to heaven to party with Jesus' than polluted water, declining fish stock, trash along the roadways or the changing climate?
While at the same time the Christians are deceiving the world by claiming the systems doing this are 'the devils work'...while also claiming they are not siding with said devil.
But alas, it's easier to sit in their god given warm houses, with their paid for heat (or AC), on their data stream, with an air of superiority with the occasional on-line set pontificating how much they know about everything - have all the answers - than actually DO something.
Have a great, potentially godless, day!