WWJD?

[nobspeople]

What would Jesus drive?

Is there (or should there) be an environmental concern within Christianity? Why or why not?

While I get the rhetoric of 'my soul is all that matters' that's taught in many churches today, surely there should be some concern with the planet with live on and how we treat it while we're here?
Or no?

[William]

What would Jesus drive?

Is there (or should there) be an environmental concern within Christianity? Why or why not?

While I get the rhetoric of 'my soul is all that matters' that's taught in many churches today, surely there should be some concern with the planet with live on and how we treat it while we're here?
Or no?

No person today can emulate Jesus. Such a notion is from the opinion of Paul.

Think, the well cared for sheep of Jesus' flock do not emulate Him, they do not become Shepherds. If you disagree, then tell us how you conform to Christ in your life here on Earth.

If Jesus was real and perfect, no one has meet that criteria.
That said, how does this pertain to any environmental concern (maybe I missed it?)?

Yet another puzzling display of 'True Christian' [self labeled] confusing biblical interpretations. "No person today can emulate Jesus" Such a notion is from - in this case - "Benson" [probably not their real-world name] but a secondary glance at biblical notions has us reading that Jesus said that we would do greater things than he. Let's see now..."Benson" or "Jesus" ... "Benson" or "Jesus" ...


Perhaps why Christians [numbered in their billions] have no interest in doing better than Jesus - is exactly why the environment is suffering so badly....they prefer Benson's interpretation...

I'm sure they may exist, but I haven't seen any environmental or like, Christian based group.
I guess they're more concerned with using up all of our resources and 'getting to heaven to party with Jesus' than polluted water, declining fish stock, trash along the roadways or the changing climate?

Which leads to the obvious conclusion that the systems that these billions of Christians support which create said world problems, are controlled by the very Christians who support said systems.
While at the same time the Christians are deceiving the world by claiming the systems doing this are 'the devils work'...while also claiming they are not siding with said devil.

If less people, Christian or other, would stop making such grandiose claims and focus that energy in to really making the world better, we'd all be in a better place in every way imaginable.
But alas, it's easier to sit in their god given warm houses, with their paid for heat (or AC), on their data stream, with an air of superiority with the occasional on-line set pontificating how much they know about everything - have all the answers - than actually DO something.

Ah well. It is what it is, and maybe it was even somehow prophesized that would be the case...human nature. I suggest all is as it should be as it changes day to day.

In that, what Christians are doing to this world is - while quite unjust - [re the conceit/deceit] is nonetheless nothing that much different from what non-Christians are doing. It is just one of those things not worth the time and effort worrying about, for it cannot be easily fixed, as history repeatedly show us.

Also, as the historical records of the Planet show us, Nature has a ways and the means in which to develop the next exciting installment of critters. Rinse. Tweak Repeat. You Rock Mama Nature!

[John Bauer]

I think it's a good possibility, though, that Jesus wouldn't really drive anything. I do agree on the Accord, but we, His disciples, would be the drivers, and we would all have these license plates:

If Jesus is your co-pilot, you're in the wrong seat.

[John Bauer]

If Jesus was real and perfect, no one has meet that criteria.

Well ... <checks self> ... one out of two ain't bad.

I'm sure they may exist, but I haven't seen any environmental or, like, Christian-based group.

Well, here are just two examples that will, I hope, inspire you to seek out more such examples. We are out there and getting very vocal.

(https://www.crcna.org/welcome/beliefs/p ... ation-care):

"The earth is the Lord's, and everything in it," says Psalm 24:1, and just as God placed human beings "in the garden of Eden to work it and take care of it" (Gen. 2:15), so the Lord calls us, the crown of his creation (Ps. 8:5), to be stewards of his natural world.

As a church we "affirm a commitment to work vigorously to protect and heal the creation for the glory of the Creator, as we wait for the restoration of the creation to wholeness" (Agenda for Synod 2010, p. 46). "We lament that our abuse of creation has brought lasting damage to the world we have been given: polluting streams and soil, poisoning the air, altering the climate, and damaging the earth. We commit ourselves to honor all God's creatures and to protect them from abuse and extinction, for our world belongs to God" (Our World Belongs to God, para. 51). We uphold "biblical principles of responsible dominion, care, and stewardship of creation," recognizing that our continually growing knowledge about God's world should "guide us in our love of God and neighbors, including care for the creation."

(https://creationcare.org)

Our mission is to inspire, equip, educate, and mobilize evangelical Christians to love God and others by rediscovering and reclaiming the Biblical mandate to care for creation and working toward a stable climate and a healthy, pollution-free world. ... [We are] a ministry that educates, inspires, and mobilizes Christians in their effort to care for God's creation, to be faithful stewards of God's provision, to get involved in regions of the United States and the world impacted by pollution, and to advocate for actions and policies that honor God and protect the environment. ... [Our] work is grounded in the Bible's teaching on the responsibility of God's people to "tend the garden" and in a desire to be faithful to Jesus Christ and to follow him. ... Indeed, one cannot fully worship the Creator and at the same time destroy his creation, which was brought into being to glorify him. Worshiping the Creator and caring for creation is all part of loving God. They are mutually reinforcing activities. It is actually unbiblical to set one against the other.

[PinSeeker]

I think it's a good possibility, though, that Jesus wouldn't really drive anything. I do agree on the Accord, but we, His disciples, would be the drivers, and we would all have these license plates:

If Jesus is your co-pilot, you're in the wrong seat.

It was all tongue-in-cheek, John. Ease up, my friend. Grace and peace to you.

[John Bauer]

It was all tongue-in-cheek, John. Ease up, my friend. Grace and peace to you.

You keep telling me to ease up, even here when my own comments are tongue-in-cheek. What's up with that?

[Benson]

If Jesus was real and perfect, no one has meet that criteria.

Well ... <checks self> ... one out of two ain't bad.

I'm sure they may exist, but I haven't seen any environmental or, like, Christian-based group.

Well, here are just two examples that will, I hope, inspire you to seek out more such examples. We are out there and getting very vocal.

(https://www.crcna.org/welcome/beliefs/p ... ation-care):

"The earth is the Lord's, and everything in it," says Psalm 24:1, and just as God placed human beings "in the garden of Eden to work it and take care of it" (Gen. 2:15), so the Lord calls us, the crown of his creation (Ps. 8:5), to be stewards of his natural world.

As a church we "affirm a commitment to work vigorously to protect and heal the creation for the glory of the Creator, as we wait for the restoration of the creation to wholeness" (Agenda for Synod 2010, p. 46). "We lament that our abuse of creation has brought lasting damage to the world we have been given: polluting streams and soil, poisoning the air, altering the climate, and damaging the earth. We commit ourselves to honor all God's creatures and to protect them from abuse and extinction, for our world belongs to God" (Our World Belongs to God, para. 51). We uphold "biblical principles of responsible dominion, care, and stewardship of creation," recognizing that our continually growing knowledge about God's world should "guide us in our love of God and neighbors, including care for the creation."

(https://creationcare.org)

Our mission is to inspire, equip, educate, and mobilize evangelical Christians to love God and others by rediscovering and reclaiming the Biblical mandate to care for creation and working toward a stable climate and a healthy, pollution-free world. ... [We are] a ministry that educates, inspires, and mobilizes Christians in their effort to care for God's creation, to be faithful stewards of God's provision, to get involved in regions of the United States and the world impacted by pollution, and to advocate for actions and policies that honor God and protect the environment. ... [Our] work is grounded in the Bible's teaching on the responsibility of God's people to "tend the garden" and in a desire to be faithful to Jesus Christ and to follow him. ... Indeed, one cannot fully worship the Creator and at the same time destroy his creation, which was brought into being to glorify him. Worshiping the Creator and caring for creation is all part of loving God. They are mutually reinforcing activities. It is actually unbiblical to set one against the other.

In other words, all you do is talk about it. Correct?

[Benson]

What would Jesus drive?

Is there (or should there) be an environmental concern within Christianity? Why or why not?

While I get the rhetoric of 'my soul is all that matters' that's taught in many churches today, surely there should be some concern with the planet with live on and how we treat it while we're here?
Or no?

No person today can emulate Jesus. Such a notion is from the opinion of Paul.

Think, the well cared for sheep of Jesus' flock do not emulate Him, they do not become Shepherds. If you disagree, then tell us how you conform to Christ in your life here on Earth.

If Jesus was real and perfect, no one has meet that criteria.
That said, how does this pertain to any environmental concern (maybe I missed it?)?

Yet another puzzling display of 'True Christian' [self labeled] confusing biblical interpretations. "No person today can emulate Jesus" Such a notion is from - in this case - "Benson" [probably not their real-world name] but a secondary glance at biblical notions has us reading that Jesus said that we would do greater things than he. Let's see now..."Benson" or "Jesus" ... "Benson" or "Jesus" ...


Perhaps why Christians [numbered in their billions] have no interest in doing better than Jesus - is exactly why the environment is suffering so badly....they prefer Benson's interpretation...

Do you know what would make you happy? Yes? No?

[PinSeeker]

It was all tongue-in-cheek, John. Ease up, my friend. Grace and peace to you.

You keep telling me to ease up, even here when my own comments are tongue-in-cheek. What's up with that?

Okay, I misunderstood. Which is very easy to do on a message board. My apologies. Grace and peace to you.