Do Jehovah Witnesses consider Jesus Christ to be God? If so, does it maintain that there are two divine persons? God and Jesus Christ?
Are both God and Jesus eternal and coequal?
Is the Jehovah Witness Religion a Christian Religion?
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Re: When was JW's founded?
Post #211[Replying to post 207 by tam]
I think I need to clarify something, just in case it has not been clear. Because I could (and would) say the following things:
I have my Lord (Jaheshua) to teach and command me; to correct and discipline me. I have my Lord to comfort me, to feed me (to give me food at the proper time), to give me His peace, to direct my steps, to lead me into all truth, and to reveal the Father to me. This is because He is with me, as He promised His disciples He would be.
Peace again to you,
your servant and a slave of Christ,
tammy
I think I need to clarify something, just in case it has not been clear. Because I could (and would) say the following things:
I have my Lord (Jaheshua) to teach and command me; to correct and discipline me. I have my Lord to comfort me, to feed me (to give me food at the proper time), to give me His peace, to direct my steps, to lead me into all truth, and to reveal the Father to me. This is because He is with me, as He promised His disciples He would be.
Peace again to you,
your servant and a slave of Christ,
tammy
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Re: When was JW's founded?
Post #212You didn't ask who the truth is you asked...tam wrote:
I am not going to argue with you over who the Truth is ...
JOHN 8:32
Then you will know the truth, and THE truth will set you free.
JOHN 17:17 “I have given your word to them . . . Sanctify them by means of the truth, your word is truth� (John 17:14, 17)
JOHN 14:6
"I am the Truth, the Way, and the Life."
I said that Christ is the embodiment of the truth did I not? But, if you want to argue that the truth has nothing to do with Gods Word, when Christ himself said Gods Word is truth, and Christ is identified in scripture as THE WORD and that th the entire bible is essentially about him and how he magnifies his father through his actions and teachings.... its not me you need to take that up with, it's Him.
Tell me how you get on. Peace and much joy to you and all you hold dear,
JW
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Re: When was JW's founded?
Post #213[Replying to post 209 by JehovahsWitness]
Why do you keep trying to put an argument in my mouth that I never made? How many times have you done this in this thread alone?
Where in the world did I argue that the truth has nothing to do with God's Word?
God's Word is Christ (John 1:14; Rev 19:3).
Peace again to you!
Why do you keep trying to put an argument in my mouth that I never made? How many times have you done this in this thread alone?
Where in the world did I argue that the truth has nothing to do with God's Word?
God's Word is Christ (John 1:14; Rev 19:3).
Peace again to you!
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Re: When was JW's founded?
Post #214[Replying to post 210 by tam]
Fair enough well I'm glad that is cleared up.
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Fair enough well I'm glad that is cleared up.
THE TRUTH refers to the body of bible truths that center on (or are embodied in) Jesus.
SCRIPTURAL SUPPORT
JOHN 8:32
Then you will know the truth, and THE truth will set you free.
JOHN 17:17 I have given your word to them . . . Sanctify them by means of the truth, your word is truth (John 17:14, 17)
Was there anything else you wanted to ask me?JOHN 14:6
"I am the Truth, the Way, and the Life."
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"For if we live, we live to Jehovah, and if we die, we die to Jehovah. So both if we live and if we die, we belong to Jehovah" - Romans 14:8
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"For if we live, we live to Jehovah, and if we die, we die to Jehovah. So both if we live and if we die, we belong to Jehovah" - Romans 14:8
Re: Does the sun revolve around the earth?
Post #215QUESTION: So based on the Bible, we have to believe that:JehovahsWitness wrote: [Replying to post 210 by tam]
Fair enough well I'm glad that is cleared up.
THE TRUTH refers to the body of bible truths that center on (or are embodied in) Jesus.
SCRIPTURAL SUPPORT
JOHN 8:32
Then you will know the truth, and THE truth will set you free.JOHN 17:17 “I have given your word to them . . . Sanctify them by means of the truth, your word is truth� (John 17:14, 17)Was there anything else you wanted to ask me?JOHN 14:6
"I am the Truth, the Way, and the Life."
the sun revolves around the earth
American Standard Version Psalm 104
Who laid the foundations of the earth, That it should not be moved for ever.
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Post #216
So, as regards the Opening Question, I am quite happy to regard JW's as Christian, should they want to think of themselves that way. Not quite so happy with their interpretations of the scriptures, but then again, if we all agreed about everything, theology, doctrine and dogma would all be incredibly boring topics. I comfort myself with the notion that, come the end of days, God will know His own, whatever their theology, doctrine or dogma.
Best wishes, 2RM
Best wishes, 2RM
Non omnes qui errant pereunt
Not all who wander are lost
Not all who wander are lost
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This is the unfortunate phrase used to justify the slaughter of 20,000 at the siege of Béziers in the Albigensian Crusade against the Cathars in France. I suppose the phrase from 2 Timothy 2 didn't anticipate a massacre. I don't believe any religious group, Baptists, JWs, Catholics, sets out with wrong notions, but sincerely hopes they are the possessors of truth. It would be useful if God clarified the situation while people can do something about it rather than wait till the tribes of the Earth are gathered in whatever imaginary valley can accommodate them.2ndRateMind wrote:
I comfort myself with the notion that, come the end of days, God will know His own, whatever their theology, doctrine or dogma.
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Post #218
Yes, if we had no differences there would be no debate and no use for this sub-forum.2ndRateMind wrote: So, as regards the Opening Question, I am quite happy to regard JW's as Christian, should they want to think of themselves that way. Not quite so happy with their interpretations of the scriptures, but then again, if we all agreed about everything, theology, doctrine and dogma would all be incredibly boring topics. I comfort myself with the notion that, come the end of days, God will know His own, whatever their theology, doctrine or dogma.
Best wishes, 2RM
I rather think we will be surprised at just who God welcomes on that last day, and who He rejects.
Only He knows our hearts and our history, and only He and His Anointed will exercize perfect judgment.
2 Timothy 2:
19 Nevertheless, God’s firm foundation stands, bearing this seal: “The Lord knows those who are His,� and, “Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord must turn away from iniquity.�
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Post #219
Indeed so. I did not use the phrase unadvisedly. It might well be that the perpetrators of that crusade are hell-bound, and the victim Cathars and civilians all heavenward. It is, though, for God to decide who is saved, and who are lost. And I, for one, would not care to second guess His decisions thus, in any individual case.marco wrote:This is the unfortunate phrase used to justify the slaughter of 20,000 at the siege of Béziers in the Albigensian Crusade against the Cathars in France.2ndRateMind wrote:
I comfort myself with the notion that, come the end of days, God will know His own, whatever their theology, doctrine or dogma.
Best wishes, 2RM.
Non omnes qui errant pereunt
Not all who wander are lost
Not all who wander are lost
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Re: Does the sun revolve around the earth?
Post #220[Replying to post 212 by polonius]
The Bible doesn't say that the sun moves around the earth, and don't you appreciate poetic license?
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The Bible doesn't say that the sun moves around the earth, and don't you appreciate poetic license?
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