Catholic are supposed to believe...

[polonius]

Remarkable reversals in Catholic teaching have occurred starting inn the early 1900's.

For example, in 1909 Catholics just had to believe that:

“The highest degree of certainty appertains to immediately revealed truths. The belief due to them is based on the authority of God revealing (fides divina), and if the Church, through its teaching, vouches for the fact that a truth is contained in Revelation, one's certainty is then also based on the authority of the Infallible Teaching Authority (Magisterium) of the Church (fides catholica). If truths are defined by a solemn judgment of faith (definition) of the Pope or of a General Council, they are "de fide definita" (or simply De Fide).�


Concerning the Historical Character of the First Three Chapters of Genesis
June 30, 1909 (AAS 1 [1909] 567ff; EB 332ff; Dz 2121ff)

"In particular may the literal historical sense be called in doubt in the case of facts narrated in the same chapters which touch the foundations of the Christian religion: as are, among others, the creation of all things by God in the beginning of time; the special creation of man; the formation of the first woman from the first man; the unity of the human race; the original felicity of our first parents in the state of justice, integrity, and immortality; the command given by God to man to test his obedience; the transgression of the divine command at the instigation of the devil under the form of a serpent; the degradation of our first parents from that primeval state of innocence; and the promise of a future Redeemer?
Answer: In the negative."

[polonius]

Vatican 2 (1964) declared:
The Dogmatic Constitution on the Church (Lumen Gentium) says this: “This teaching concerning the institution, the permanence, the nature and import of the sacred primacy of the Roman Pontiff and his infallible teaching office, the sacred synod proposes anew to be firmly believed by all the faithful� (LG 18).


Pope Eugene IV, (1388-1447 CE) wrote a Papal bull in 1441 CE titled Cantate Domino. One paragraph reads:

"It [the Church] firmly believes, professes, and proclaims that those not living within the Catholic Church, not only pagans, but also Jews and heretics and schismatics cannot become participants in eternal life, but will depart 'into everlasting fire which was prepared for the devil and his angels' [Matt. 25:41], unless before the end of life the same have been added to the flock; and that the unity of the ecclesiastical body is so strong that only to those remaining in it are the sacraments of the Church of benefit for salvation, and do fastings, almsgiving, and other functions of piety and exercises of Christian service produce eternal reward, and that no one, whatever almsgiving he has practiced, even if he has shed blood for the name of Christ, can be saved, unless he has remained in the bosom and unity of the Catholic Church."

Pope Boniface VIII Unam Sanctum, 1302
Written by Pope Boniface VIII in 1302, this papal bull concludes with a shocking dogmatic definition:

“We declare, say, define and pronounce, that it is absolutely necessary for the salvation of every human creature to be subject to the Roman Pontiff.�

“When a pope declares, says, pronounces, and defines, he is using the formula to make crystal-clear that he is delivering not his personal opinion but the dogmatic teaching of the Catholic Church. The fact is, then, Boniface VIII committed the Church to this proposition for the rest of her history. We cannot dodge this with a convenient "that was then, this is now." If it was dogma once, it still is.� Mark Shea - October 24, 2009

So there are only baptized Catholics in heaven! Even the Pope says so!

[Elijah John]

So there are only baptized Catholics in heaven! Even the Pope says so!

Said so, past tense. Past Popes.

I guess that would have meant Abraham, Moses, and Elijah were all excluded, since they were not Catholics?

Thankfully the RCC no longer preaches their Dark Ages doctrine of exclusivity.

[polonius]

So there are only baptized Catholics in heaven! Even the Pope says so!

Said so, past tense. Past Popes.

I guess that would have meant Abraham, Moses, and Elijah were all excluded, since they were not Catholics?

Thankfully the RCC no longer preaches their Dark Ages doctrine of exclusivity.

RESPONSE: Surely you aren't telling me that the "irreformable" (Vatican 1) dogmas have been changed, are you?

[Checkpoint]

[Replying to post 10 by Elijah John]

One falsehood compounds another.

Indeed.

For example, Jesus is God leading to God being a Trinity.
__________

[polonius]

[Replying to post 10 by Elijah John]

One falsehood compounds another.

Indeed.

For example, Jesus is God leading to God being a Trinity.
__________

RESPONSE: Do you know when belief in a Trinity started and why?

[Elijah John]

So there are only baptized Catholics in heaven! Even the Pope says so!

Said so, past tense. Past Popes.

I guess that would have meant Abraham, Moses, and Elijah were all excluded, since they were not Catholics?

Thankfully the RCC no longer preaches their Dark Ages doctrine of exclusivity.

RESPONSE: Surely you aren't telling me that the "irreformable" (Vatican 1) dogmas have been changed, are you?

For the better, but so much for "infallibility". Correct me if I'm wrong, but that seems to be the underlying theme of many of your topics.

[polonius]

Elijah John posted

Correct me if I'm wrong, but that seems to be the underlying theme of many of your topics.

RESPONSE: Yes. I find "infallibility" to be a fascinating subject. In short, Catholics are suppose to believe a number of claims solely because the Pope or a Church Council made such a claim.

Although "infallibility: isn't the term used, some other religious claim the Bible fulfills the same function.

A famous one is that the sun revolves around the earth.